Man, this discussion wasn't intended to inflame. LOL... I know everyone is posting in good fun like I was as well. Were all buds here. Im just looking at the bigger picture of whats out there already and what this truck is. Its a trail truck, well suited a (as KSB and others have pointed out) a VERY low KV brushless setup (waterproof would be ideal) or a high torque brushed setup. The price seems to suggest maybe a brushed system is the most economical choice and, for this unit, the XL5 isnt terrible. A higher turn motor would be a great choice for an upgrade. Even a 21t titan from an Emaxx would be a good choice.