I ordered the ICE AMPS BLOWER SYSTEM from RB INNOVATIONS on 1/28/2013. Before I start, let me familiarize you guys with the parts so you can follow along... I took it for the team so here we go!
ICE AMPS Blower assembly:
ICE AMPS Mounting Bracket:
ICE AMPS SCOOP:
I want to tell you guys on the forum that the ICE AMPS BLOWER system does not fit on top of the Traxxas Velineon motor at all. They mentioned on their website that the fan is a "Blower system specifically for Traxxas products listed below" and they also mentioned it's a "Blower system specifically designed for all Traxxas products". In my case, I have a stampede 4x4 vxl. See link below.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps2348fddd.jpg (Circled in Red)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ps4746c562.jpg (Red Arrow pointing that it can fit a stampede 4x4 vxl)
RB INNOVATIONS did not specify on their website that the ICE AMPS BLOWER SYSTEM is NOT a direct bolt-on type of blower on the Velineon motor. I tried installing the blower assembly on top of the Velineon motor, but noticed right away that the fins on the blower assembly cannot turn freely due to the wires of the Traxxas Velineon Motor getting in the way. See links below (Circled in Red).
Even if I pulled the wires aside, the whole blower assembly still cannot sit on top of the motor properly due to the cramp spacing. See link below (Circled in Red).
The solution to this problem is to use a side of the motor where the wires don't get in the way. However, read the next line, which is installing the ICE AMPS mounting bracket...
With the ICE AMPS mounting bracket attached on the Velineon motor plate, the motor cannot slide in place due to the thickness of the ICE AMPS mounting bracket. The ICE AMPS mounting bracket is literally touching the motor mount and this makes it impossible to push the motor down any further. See links below(Circled in Red).
Also the screw for the ESC gets in the way so it's really a very tight squeeze. I might break something if I force it in. See link below (Circled in Red).
ESC screw and motor mount stopping me from pushing the motor in any further:
This is where you start modding... I was really hoping this blower was a direct bolt-on.
Finally, the bottom part of the scoop is hitting the top part of the shocks. See links below (Circled in Red).
You may have to trim some of the scoop off so that it won't be hitting the top part of the shocks.
If I spent $49.94 on an item, I would like to have total satisfaction that it fits specifically in a Traxxas vehicle (in my case, on my Stampede 4x4 vxl) with NO MODS AT ALL. I am not satisfied with the website's explanation since it was not explained clearly at all. RB Innovations should have specified and PROVIDED A DISCLAIMER that the ICE AMPS BLOWER SYSTEM IS NOT A DIRECT BOLT-ON item and will not fit on the standard Traxxas Velineon Motor since the wires get in the way. They should have mentioned that MODIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED to make it fit on the Velineon motor on a stamplede 4x4 vxl.
IMHO, if your the guy who like direct bolt on stuff like me, this blower is not meant for you. I will say it again, it is NOT a direct bolt-on to the Velineon motor since the wires get in the way. However with MODIFICATIONS, you will be able to fit this blower. Btw, the picture on RB INNOVATION'S website show an E-revo brushless. The ICE AMPS BLOWER is a direct bolt-on on that model since the wires on the motor stick out on the side, not like the Velineon motor, which runs above the motor.
Last edited by stampede_fanatic; 02-04-2013 at 04:10 AM. Reason: Added more pics
I think a lot of people like me have the Velion motor sat so the wires are on the outer side not the top. This allow heatsinks and fans to sit easily.
The ICE AMPS mounting plate is literally sitting on the kingheadz motor mount here:
Btw, it's not just the kingheadz motor mount that gets in the way, the ESC screw adds to the difficulty pushing the motor in as well:
Motor mount and ESC screw make it impossible for me to put it in. Here's where modifications come into play...
Last edited by stampede_fanatic; 02-04-2013 at 04:12 AM.
Does sound like a MK1 product. You should report your findings to them and aid them in a better MK2 product. They may even reward you. The blower would look good stuck on the hood of my Chevy.
At the end of the day it's a product for enthusiasts. They are unlikely to have unmodified vehicle and need to take into account the likes of the KH motor mount etc. Good luck.
"Will Fit Traxxas E-Revo / E-Maxx / Losi SCTE 4X4 and many other similar mid mount motor vehicles."
I think the Stampede / Slash is a typo.
To sum it up: The ICE AMPS BLOWER SYSTEM is definitely NOT a direct bolt-on to the Velineon motor since the wires, motor mount, and esc screw get in the way. MODIFICATIONS are necessary to make it fit.
I hope you can find a way to make it fit dude or that will be a bad buzz......peace
Famous last words...watch this!!!!
I still have to get the necessary tools (dremel) for the Mega heatsink/fan that's why I did not go for that one. I really thought that the blower system is a direct bolt-on, but it's not. Anyways, once I get my tools, i'll definitely do the Mega heatsink/fan mod. From Ross' thread, it really fits better than the blower system that I bought.
I just opened the package for test fitting and have not tried using it yet.
Last edited by Dadx2mj; 02-05-2013 at 08:57 AM.
Stampede_Fanatic, thank you for your extremely detailed review. I was not the one that purchased this product but am annoyed just like you are, that conpany flat out lied or didn't even bother to do test fits on the pede. I've been looking forward to a real world review but I guess we'll have to wait on that.
-Slash 4x4 MT 2000kv
-Slash 4x4 MT 2100kv
Btw, here's the reply email from RB INNOVATIONS:
Thank you for the detailed explanation and I understand the issue. We certainly try to keep up with the changing devices but it is nearly impossible to do. If we develop a device and then there is a motor that will not work, we sometime will not know due to we don’t have ever engine and truck / car combination available. This motor is more recent then the system. We will investigate this further add this note to the system online for the future.
I appreciate your feedback and so If you would like to return the unused / unmodified item please do so. We will refund you for the order.
We hope this helps answer your questions. If you need further information please do hesitate to ask us for further assistance.
Technical Sales Department
Anyways, I just don't like this line "If we develop a device and then there is a motor that will not work, we sometime will not know due to we don’t have ever engine and truck / car combination available."
That's the reason for R&D (Reasearch and Development). They did not do any tests on the pede 4x4 vxl since they didn't have any in house...
I'm really very disappointed in them.
BaldyDaniels should take a look at this to see if he still wants to keep the blower. I know he bought some for his trucks.
Thanks for taking one for the stampede team!!
Are you sending it back, or do you want to sell it? For the right deal I would buy it from you for my E Revo. I could help you recover part of your money at least.
Don't try this at home!
Its hard to find someone with a slash/stampede 4x4, there's only a thousand of them in every town Seriously r+d isn't it the most popular traxxas product? The 2+ hours its going to take to make it fit sucks. Hope it performs well in the summer for you.