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  1. #121
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    A little while ago I got a trophy, OK I'll put my hands up. The Bandit didn't win it by itself, half the championship was done using the Bandit and the other half was done using a race buggy.



    However this is the thing, the Bandit is faster than my race buggy given the right conditions.

    Outdoors on a bumpy grass track the Bandit still has an edge over the race buggy when it gets slippery. A usual night's racing looks like this the mid-motor race buggy will be slightly quicker than the Bandit during the qualifying rounds but by the time the floods lights come on for the final when it is colder and the grass track gets a little damp the Bandit has the edge over the pure racer. And it is worth pointing out that when it is dry the difference between them isn't that large, they will lap close to one another.

    As far as specs, it is still largely the same as before. I've just kept on learning about how to set it up. One key thing I found is that using mini spikes and mini pins up front when most buggies use staggered ribs is the thing to do with the Bandit.

    As for what comes next for the Bandit racer. Well I've done one round of a popular indoor championship, the next step is to get it into a regional race if I can get it narrow enough.

    People said it couldn't be done... I think it can, the Bandit can be a nice club racer for a beginner. It is a really nice drive The biggest issue with the Bandit is not its capability, is getting to a stage where it is raceable. With a race buggy it is easy, find out what the pros are using for a certain track or surface type and download the setup sheet... Sadly that cannot be done with the Bandit, but after all this time I have decent baseline setups for both carpet and grass. I'm SO happy with this Bandit racer and getting a tailor made race buggy has only confirmed to me that the Bandit really isn't bad, the basher can be a racer with the right setup.

    So I don't think the little Bandit will be going through many other huge changes, it is working great as it is... If anything I'd like to do something to make it more unique, perhaps a really unusual shell. Any ideas?

    PS: Those who remember all the lead I had stuck to the bottom of the Bandit, well the ballast is nearly gone! Running nearly as light as it can be now... which is still HEAVY! But I think it helps a little on very bumpy tracks.

    PPS: And if you are wondering, do I prefer to be driving my race buggy or the Bandit? Usually the Bandit The Bandit is a little more mellow, drives closer to a truck than a buggy I think.
    Last edited by cunawarit; 07-04-2013 at 04:43 AM.

  2. #122
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    Hey Cunawarit thats a really nice bandit! Im getting my Bandit ready to race this sunday hopefully things go alright as its my first time at the track :/ My thread is outdated so ill update it with some pictures later on c:

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    First time what matters is staying on the track and learning the whole process from marshalling to grabbing the correct transponder, etc... You won't have much time to tweak the setup

    I'd get a selection of spring rates, not necessarily for the first race, but for the future when you start playing with your setup.

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    Congrats on your success with the bandit, Cunawarit. And i couldnt agree with you more, these TRAXXAS 2wd can run with the 'big dogs' if the track conditions allow for it.

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    One quick note, I've tried to use 4-Tec carriers to get a lil more toe in at the back. So 3 degrees as opposed to stock 1.5. I thought it would be a nice way to get either 1.5 or 3 degrees.

    It isn't the way to do it if you want to remain race legal sadly, it has taken the width of the car above legal at the back. Even with stock pin mount wheels.

    It looks like if you want to have adjustable toe at the back you'll have to use the RPM box which swings the whole arm forward.... this hopefully increases the width less and keeps it legal.

    I'll give it a run anyway to see if it works better at 3 deg than 1.5...

  6. #126
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    Awesome looking buggy and congratulations working some kinks out and giving us few Traxxas racers some inspiration.

    Have a few questions if you dont mind ?
    How much wider does the TeamC wheels make the buggy ?
    What traxxas wheels are you using ?

    again awesome buggy and thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zonk View Post
    How much wider does the TeamC wheels make the buggy ?
    It is difficult to tell exactly as it depends on camber and toe too, but 6 - 7 mm or so.

    What traxxas wheels are you using ?
    The older style Bandit wheels, they can still be found online TRX-2474 and TRX-2475. Those keep it legal at the back with stock toe in and reasonable camber.

    According to my gage the front is not legal with any camber even with the old Traxxas wheels. Sadly those front white Traxxas wheels are smaller than standard buggy wheels so not all tyres fit well.

    And finally thanks for the compliments I'm glad my efforts have been enjoyed by others as well as me, I'm still surprised how good this Bandit ended up. In fact, I am racing later today and guess what I'll be racing? Yeah, the Traxxas! Late summer outdoor grass is sure to be slippery tonight.

  8. #128
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    Haha,the bandit is the "mudder" of RC buggies.

    Well i am busy working on a "racey" Rustler but have a pile of parts and this winter will be working on a bandit so there is a lot of useful information here. I race on a indoor clay track and outside loose dirt track, very different surfaces so it should be fun.

    I used to race every weekend but got burnt out over the course of a few years buying the latest and greatest. I decided to get back into RC but this time will actually enjoy it and figured no better way to do that using traxxas chassis, parts everywhere and inexpensive to boot

    Wouldnt think on a club level the 6-7mm will matter unless it just scrubs too much speed. have you tried wheels from a 22 or b4.2 ?

    Thank you again and good luck today with your race and I may bend your ear more in the future

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    The club doesn't mind the extra width, but I cannot race it on regional races sadly. The 22 wheels don't fit.

    You can ask anything you want But don't assume I am an expert or a great driver, I'm neither. Just a guy having some fun and trying my best.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by cunawarit View Post
    The club doesn't mind the extra width, but I cannot race it on regional races sadly. The 22 wheels don't fit.

    You can ask anything you want But don't assume I am an expert or a great driver, I'm neither. Just a guy having some fun and trying my best.
    That is what this hobby is all about I am not either and dont take my racing serious, is just a good way to spend time with friends and relax. Its toy cars so i dont get over worked about things lol.

    Thanks for the heads up on the 22 wheels, will use teamc wheels. Does Traxxas not offer any 2.2 wheels for the bandit ? My bandit AKA parts pile is hardly complete lol.

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    I think the current Bandit wheels are proper 2.2 wheels, but don't quote me on it. I've never tried them, part of the reason I use Team-C wheels is because I can buy them at the track.

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    That would be nice if the Traxxas wheels would work. Cant believe they dont offer a 2.2 dish wheel lol

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    Well it is marketed as a basher, I guess chrome spokes are seen as cooler than white dishes

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunawarit View Post
    Well it is marketed as a basher, I guess chrome spokes are seen as cooler than white dishes
    Touche ! lol

    Chrome spokes.. has to make it faster right lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by cunawarit View Post
    A little update here as I think I've reached a pretty decent base setup to start working from using orange Losi springs up front, red at the back and 30 weight shock oil with three hole pistons. Running about 1.5 degree of neg camber at the back and 2.7 up front.

    This is working great! I am still very slow on the dry but not the slowest And it isn't all handling, it is a combination of the following issues:

    1) Skills: I wouldn't say I suck, but I am clearly a noob, I don't crash out all the time by any means, but I am not very consistent compared to the quick guys. Lap after lap after lap they get nearly the same lap times over and over. I don't, particularly when there are other cars around me. I quite simply I need to get better, given that I have only been to three race meets this is not shocking

    2) Grip rolling: Now I have enough grip that I can grip roll, but it isn't too bad. As a first step I might simply go to cut staggers up front rather than mini spikes. And perhaps lower the ride height. I don't know if this will be enough or not, if it isn't I will have to be a little more creative.

    This may be what ultimately kills my dreams of having the Bandit be competitive, if I cannot corner as fast as the fast guys without rolling then it is game over. I think it should be surmountable, even if I have to run a metal plate under my battery

    3) Speed: Seriously lacking power here, I should go lipo. On the B final today the fastest guy wasn't out-handling me by much if anything at all, in fact I was quicker on a couple of corners for sure. But when he can cover the long main straight in much less time and out accelerate me out of every turn than me I have no chance.

    PS: I'm not sure I am a huge fan of super grippy grass racing... I had much more fun in the rain, I'd love to try a dirt track Or perhaps I am just bitter that I was no longer battling at the front and was once again relegated to the back.
    thanks for posting your setup! im making my bandit race worthy and i had no idea what a base even is for the bandit im going to be making mine lighter. mine is 4.05lbs! it has a waaaaaaaaaaaay over sized battery made for a slash that weighs 0.77lbs by itself. im going to be buying a shorty lipo and an integy graphite upper deck to try and drop some weight, also thinking about messing with a mid motor conversion but idk, i think with the bandits heavy rear bias it may help so i may get an extra bandit chassis to experiment with. if it works well ill be shure to post it around the interwebs for all your eyeballs to enjoy my butchery.
    i am sponsored by nobody and supported by my work.

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    congratz on your trophy!
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