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    Behold! The cure to hex slop. Savage hexes.

    I saw these on my buddy's truck. HPI Savage hexes.

    They fit perfectly.

    They're cheap.

    No more slop!!!!

    I suggest you also pick up 2x 3982, Traxxas teflon washers.

    I noticed the axel can slide a bit if you don't use the washers, probably not a big deal but I wanted it perfect.



    I used 5 washers per wheel.







    Perfect fit.

    (except for the washers of course)



    This holds the wheel tight, I have 0 slop in the wheels now.
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    Those are for the 14mm hub's or 17mm??
    Looks go thou..
    I did the stub mod on my 17mm was not to impressed with the results...
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    17mm hex.

    I've been trying to balance the wheels. Between no slop, and balanced, the truck might run real well.

    I'm also dropping to 4 washers per wheel...

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    looking real good...was about to order Integy offset 17mm hubs,,,, but that looks like a good solution
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    Ive had those and they worked really well. I lost one when it came loose in a parking lot and I couldnt find it. You might want to use some loctite or an additional lock nut just in case.

    I personally didn't trust that many Teflon washers stacked together. The hardware store had some thick 6mm metal washers that worked well.

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    Okay....thanks anr2442 kinda like the Integy , but Ducattis solutions seems like a great solution too
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    I've been running the savage 17mm hexes for ages- they are such a simple design and dirt cheap too:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-HPI-SAVAGE-X...item1e62e9029c

    http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-Savage-Flux-...item3365f634c4

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    Went for a bash with the new setup.

    19/54 gearing, 6s, masher tires, slash body. This is my typical bashing setup. Right away I noticed how much balancing helped the tires. My balance job wasn't perfect, but what I did really helped.

    I started by taking the pin out of the cv, allowing the wheel to freely spin. Then I put each of my 6 wheels on, one at a time. I'd spin the wheel and see if it wanted to settle in one spot. Then I'd add hot glue, in a big ugly pile on the inside of the rim. Glue opposite of where the heavy spot appears to be.



    My bearings are in rough shape, but this was at least an improvement. Except 1 wheel... first test drive one of the rear wheels was shaking badly. Some of the wheels took a huge amount of hot glue.

    Good thing I balanced all 6, I swapped it with another, and now the truck runs smoothly.

    I think it was a combination of both balance and tighter wheels, but the revo has never run so well at high speed. I could scream across the park, probably coming close to 50 mph on grass!

    I had 1 failure... The truck kicked up in the rear, and in my attempt to save it, I hit the throttle in the air...

    I think one of the wheel lugs wasn't on tight enough, when the truck landed on its roof, I hit the brakes. 1 wheel unbolted itself and went rolling across the field.

    I found the lock nut, and the hex inside the wheel was only moderately damaged. I put it back on, and found both wheels on that side were loose.

    After that, no issues.

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    Another very inexpensive 17mm option, are the adapters that come with Axial Oversive rims. My son has them installed in his brushless Revo without any issues. The main difference is that the hexes are plastic instead of aluminum but they have held up to running a 1518 on 4s no problem.
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    They also come with all other HPI rims for free. But the most serious and definitely the best solution ist THAT, imho.

    Tested them already and I am happy
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    yep, been running the savage hexes for almost 2yrs. Still running with no slop

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    Just picked up a full set of the savage hexes on ebay. I had no idea so many were using them. Suhweet!

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    Sounds like a cheap and good deal.

    Is the offset (toe? Which is the right word) with the savage hexes still the same.

    Would these perhaps even fit on the Slash 4x4?
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    No, the slash uses 5mm axles, the revo uses 6mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daravelli View Post
    Just picked up a full set of the savage hexes on ebay. I had no idea so many were using them. Suhweet!
    lol. I thought this was big big news, then I post it and some of you guys have been doing it for ages.

    Quote Originally Posted by dadull110 View Post
    Sounds like a cheap and good deal.

    Is the offset (toe? Which is the right word) with the savage hexes still the same.

    Would these perhaps even fit on the Slash 4x4?
    Not the 4x4... however I believe there are 17mm hex kits for the 4slash.

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    Thanks for answers.

    I have a 17mm AKA Adaptor for the slash but after 8 Months it is also sloppy. And the HPI would be a cheap alternative.

    But I would still like to know if the toe is the same as the factory adaptor in the e-Revo.
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    I think you mean track-width, as in how wide the truck is, measured from the outside of the wheel on each side; I don't think you'll loose more than 1/4" really, nothing noticeable as such.
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    if this changed the track width it was too little to notice... but you got me wondering now....

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    Yes, track width is what I mean.

    I'll keep that in mind for the e-revo.
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    I measured... exactly the same track width mounted.



    I balanced my stock wheels, then found they don't fit on the new hexes.

    I think if I cut the stock hex's flush like the HPI's I could mount them the same way.

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    Here's another alternative: http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread...res)&p=4600895

    I had to try the HPI hexes but even though I've put locktite on the axle and the nut it still loosens up enough to make my wheels wobble. This never happend with the Traxxas hexes. I also had to shim the HPI hexes to minimize the play between the hex and the axle carrier.

    Might have to try the solution in the link.
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    JFS I might try that one I have an extra set to play with..
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    Quote Originally Posted by j.f.s View Post
    Here's another alternative: http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread...res)&p=4600895

    I had to try the HPI hexes but even though I've put locktite on the axle and the nut it still loosens up enough to make my wheels wobble. This never happend with the Traxxas hexes. I also had to shim the HPI hexes to minimize the play between the hex and the axle carrier.

    Might have to try the solution in the link.
    I had the same issue as well. And the hexes break in the centers from tightening down hard. I also noticed that they are not a true 17mm size. They seem to be a hair smaller which makes a huge difference when landing wrong and strips out the wheel. For people who lightly bash and do speed runs they would be perfect and cheap.
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    No such issue here.. the hexes on my wheels still look great, and the nuts have never come off, I didn't use loctite either.. nor did I have to tighten them down crazy hard. My hex nuts look slightly different, though.. they fit firmly, in fact they sometimes remain stuck in the wheel when taking it off.
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    Whoops.

    Seems reorganizing photobucket killed my pics.








    washers for shimming the horizontal movement.



    Pop it all together, and instead of this...



    its more like this....


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    i assume you cut the rim hex flat to use the HPI hexes since they do not have the slots like the TRX hex do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by muck View Post
    i assume you cut the rim hex flat to use the HPI hexes since they do not have the slots like the TRX hex do?
    Nope, used the smooth HPI hexes, but you're right, one could chop the Traxxas hex, use the HPI lock nut, and have the best of both worlds, the spined 17mm, and no slop....

    I destroyed one of my stock hexes in an attempt to make a tire balancer... if I ever end up with a set of stock hexes in hand, I'm chopping those suckers down.

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    Ok I am using 3.8'' Trenchers and the came mounted on Tech 5 rims and they are 17 mm hexes . And I have a little slop all 4 rims when I run my Revo .So ducati777 you are saying to make that slop stop is to use HPI Savage 17mm Hexes hubs and that will solve the problem .

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    Yup. HPI hexes, check your pillow ball retainers and you'll be slop free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducati777 View Post
    check your pillow ball retainers and you'll be slop free.
    That is one thing that is too often overlooked when having wheel slop...
    Tighten ( not over tighten ) your pillow ball retainers once in a while and you'll reduce slop...

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    I am sorry I am new to all this but where is your pillow ball retainers?? And Ducati777 where did u purchase those washers at and what size are they and how many did u use ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smash12 View Post
    I am sorry I am new to all this but where is your pillow ball retainers?? And Ducati777 where did u purchase those washers at and what size are they and how many did u use ???
    Post #1. They're traxxas part 3982. I use 4 per wheel.

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    My erbe is rockin thicker nylon washers from the HW store and never had any wheel slop. Cheaper and easier than sleeves and or other hexs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducati777 View Post
    I saw these on my buddy's truck. HPI Savage hexes.

    They fit perfectly.

    They're cheap.

    No more slop!!!!

    I suggest you also pick up 2x 3982, Traxxas teflon washers.

    I noticed the axel can slide a bit if you don't use the washers, probably not a big deal but I wanted it perfect.



    I used 5 washers per wheel.







    Perfect fit.

    (except for the washers of course)



    This holds the wheel tight, I have 0 slop in the wheels now.
    Where exactly do the washers go mate as the picture aren't showing and it doesn't show them on the pictures you up loaded further on in the thread either?

    cheers

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    washers for shimming the horizontal movement. Placed between drive pin and bearing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romed View Post
    They also come with all other HPI rims for free. But the most serious and definitely the best solution ist THAT, imho.

    Tested them already and I am happy
    Is that the hpp setup from Germany?

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    A lot of the slop seems to come from the CV joint. Can any thing be done about that? Will washers for shimming the horizontal movement as shown by ducati777 help with this as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shogun6 View Post
    Is that the hpp setup from Germany?
    Yes. Here are some more pics :





    And much more here : http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread...ight=step+step.

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    Just picked up 2 sets of savage hexs... figured for $5 a 2nd set would be good for spares.

    Total cost for 2 sets and shipping was about $16... not bad really.

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    I just don't like the idea using all the washers with the savage hexes...

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