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    summit to erbe

    Hello,
    I am the happy owner of a summit. Sadly, I bash more than I crawl, and since I bought the Tekin RX8 brushless system, I decided to convert it to an e-revo.

    I already bought all parts to "visually" convert it:
    • PRO117800 Badlands 3.8 Street Truck Tire (2):TRA 3.8 Wheel
    • PRO273203 Fr, R Desperado 3.8 Zero Offset Blk Wheels,17mm:MT
    • TRA5314 Fr,R Body Mounts :Revo,SLY
    • TRA5335 Front Bumper, Mount: Revo
    • TRA5411 Wing Mount: Revo
    • TRA5446 Wing, Black: Revo
    • TRA5611X ProGraphix Body with Decal: E-Revo
    • All rocker arm set available (p1,p2,p3,lt)


    and for the brushless power: SUM11H HR aluminum differential case for summit (only rear).

    I was wondering what makes the e-revo capable of handling 6s that is not in the summit? (i don't have intention to have 6s in a summit , only 4s)

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    I will just guess and say that the summit on 6s will be ok in high gear not low gear
    EMAXX 1480kv 6s
    RUSTLER 2150KV 4S

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    My only concern is the locking diffs and 2speed being up to the task of handling BL power. May strip out fast. Easy to change out the transmission as the erevo and summit 2speed are identical minus the shifting servo.

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    Thanks,
    I've checked from motor to wheels, summit's transmission, on the high gear, is identical to the stock e-revo (except from a single transmission gear, 3984X vs 3985X). And the driveshafts.
    If I don't lock diffs while bashing, I don't see why the summit couldn't handle 6s
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    diffs and transmission of the summit are as stong as e-revo ones. but in the long run 6s is too much for both.

    stay on 4s and don't run big heavy tires and diffs will be ok.

    by the way you forgot to order the e-revo spring set. silver and blue is the way to go I guess.

    I also bash my summit much more, but why convert it to an e-revo! The summit body is much stonger, 2 speed transmission and locking diff are also a nice add on.

    I also put a BL system in my Summit and run Trencher X tires and stiffened up the suspension. I really like how the Summit performs now, and still can do some slow speed stuff if I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundmaster View Post
    diffs and transmission of the summit are as stong as e-revo ones. but in the long run 6s is too much for both.

    stay on 4s and don't run big heavy tires and diffs will be ok.
    +1, shims your diffs if you haven't done it yet. At the end neither the summit or erevo diffs will survive the test. I've been there like many others. Losi diffs so far are the best shot.

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    Ok I'm definitely not going 6s, but I wanted it bulletproof enough to handle it. Will stay on 4s
    I wanted to have a revo and a summit but as a student limited on money, converting it was less expensive. I will just convert it back and forth, to a summit or revo, depending on how I feel. Just need to switch tire, body post and rocker arm (for the right suspension height). Surely will keep the 2 speed and locking diffs!

    About shimming the diffs, I put the nylon shims already included, is that considered shimmed? Does it needs more shims?

    I forgot to mention I already have the spring i need
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    Shimming will reduce the play between pinion and ring gear preventing the gears from stripping but normally it is not really necessary. I read different opinions about that though.

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    Will try that. Once my diffs breaks
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    So if you are using the p2 rockers, do you have to change the push rods and springs too?

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    No, the pushrods are the same and so is the spring rate :-D
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    So what are the recommended springs for the p2 rockers?

    Blue and Silver?

    edit: so if i decide to order the same parts, do I need some further hardware (screws) for all the mounting?

    also what is the benefit of the prographix body over the clear one?

    thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundmaster View Post

    also what is the benefit of the prographix body over the clear one?

    thanks.
    Prographix body is a bit easier to paint, it takes less paint to finish the job, and it look better than the clear one, other than that it is the same.

    this is a prographix body.



    this is a prographix also.

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    This is great because neon green is the color I was gonna paint it. It will looks like NFS's revo
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    Looks nice.

    @emmanhello: Did you also order the 5335X parts?

    And do I need some other hardware (screws) for this conversion?

    Can I use lexan color for the prographix body?

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    I ordered 5335 instead of 5335X because it have the front bumper mount included with the front bumper, 5335X does not have bumper mount.

    I think you won't need more screw for the conversion and prographix body is intended for lexan body paint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emmanhello View Post
    I ordered 5335 instead of 5335X because it have the front bumper mount included with the front bumper, 5335X does not have bumper mount.
    So you skip the rear bumper? It is only for looks anyway.

    Are the screws to mount the wing included?

    EDIT: The green prographix looks really nice
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    Exactly. I might put the summit rear bumper, it is supposed to fit.
    In some parts, screws are included, I hope the wing mount isn't an exception...
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    Not sure but I think the summit bumper won't let the wheelie bar-wing mount to fit, double check that.

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    Thanks dude I am really wanting to do this conversion too now. HAHA.

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    :-D lol I'm glad I'm not the only one! My parts will arrive this week, I will post all the pics of the conversion.
    Just. Can't. Wait.
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    Oh hey look at what came today along with 37$ import fees D:


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    Sweet...almost like a Christmas gift.

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    Nice parts. Please report about the build progress. THX!!!

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    Progresse: very slow... sorry; time consuming job.

    taped and glued tire!



    I also glued the hole in the desperado and drilled some holes in the tires.
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    I also glued the hole in the desperado and drilled some holes in the tires.

    because why?? are you going to be running in wet conditions?
    Would you go flip my truck back over??

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    Probably, that's why I did this... Will this cause issue?
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    wont the tire rip where you drilled the hole

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    the tape should hold the tire from ripping?? but best to not put any holes in tires if you can avoid it.
    and a small tip soldering iron works best for this job.
    Would you go flip my truck back over??

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    Half of my tire are drilled and they have not ripped yet... I hope my badlands will not be explode because of this :S
    And good idea 87GN with the soldering tip

    progress so far:



    All the pieces that need to be swapped










    I fitted the summit bumper





    With the wheelie bar and my deanodized wheelie wheels.
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    Very cool. So the summit rear bumper will fit without issues?

    Tires should be ok. Gorilla tape is very strong and will help for sure.

    Are you keeping the longer wheelbase of the summit?

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    The rear summit bumper fit like a charm! No mod no grinding.
    It is weird but the left front bulkhead does not allow me to shorten the wheelbase length... So I guess I'll have to keep it like that.

    I forgot, I also added the pushrod mod:



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    Oh so you also installed a rear chassis brace. Very nice!

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    Thanks ^-^

    I also painted the body and put the sticker



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    Wow this body really shines

    Love the color.

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    And the final update: I switched the wheel for the stock erevo, they were better looking imo.



    Comparison

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    With his little brother


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    very cool!,,

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    Just reading through this thread and I wanted to clear one thing up for you.
    You mentioned not being able to adjust the wheelbase on the bulkhead. That is not how its done.
    On the Summit rear arms there are 2 sets of holes that the pillow balls screw into. Stock they are screwed into the rear holes. To switch to Erevo wheelbase you must move the pillow balls to the forward holes

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    Okay! I thought it was the inner a-arm on the front... Maybe that's why it wasn't doing wheelie. Hope fixing this will help, thanks ttypedan
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