If i were to pick one of these up i would probably just spool the front and rear diffs and call it a day.
I spend almost all my drive time in the Summit LT locked up front and rear.
(RAH)² (AH)³ + [ROMA (1+MA)] + (GA)² + (OOH)(LA)²
I love my summit LT. I loved the summit stock. But its just much more fun as a LT. I do like the Telluride for what it is. I was just hoping bit something more innovative. I really think they need to rethink the naming of stuff though. Brand it what it is.
E-Revo 1/16 VXL
E-Revo 1/16 boss
E-Revo 1/16 Slash
Stampede Monster Jam
And so on.
It would just make things so much simpler. They are all the same things with minor changes for the most part.
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Im excited. Im going brushless for sure. Stampede with erevo diffs?
Sounds like it could take some abuse
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I was talking to some LHS(Local Hobby Shop) employees about the Telluride 4X4, the response was unfortunately a negative opinions. I am surprised about all this Negativity about one RC i thought what happen "to the days where you ran it to just have fun and not think is it a release or something new! JUST a FUN Toy"
I think it would be half way decent with longer shocks better motor and esc and tires! Just in 200$ this would be fairly decent
Yes I do have a Traxxas...
Im sorry traxxas but I think you screwed up on this one. I just don't see enough rc enthusiasts out there that would show any interest In this, if its suppose to be a trail truck it should be scaled a little more then it is. also, 4 wheel drive with a titan 12 turn motor... yikes! ive owned both a rustler and stampede in brushed and even breaking in the motor properly, they still burn out. not a trail truck at all. its just a cross over a pede 4x4 and slash 4x4 with a brushed motor. I may be wrong but I think these are gonna be a flop. all the best
Honestly I do not see why 90% of the majority is hating on a vehicle that is even released yet !!!!
If you carefully watch the launch release videos, it looks like it can be fairly capable as it is intended. It isn't being marketed as a scaler, so why do people automatically consider it a failure?
It is marketed as a trail truck. Lets just assume that you can pick a trail, be it a hiking trail, bike trail, or some little diverted pathway while your in a huge park that happens to have a lot of shrubbery and you can pick a line that can be translated as a "trail" and you decide to run through it, I bet the Telli would be more than capable or even exceed the expectations most of you aren't even willing to give it.
When I first saw the vids, I thought "its like a Summit,but not!!"
Who cares that it shares the same chassis as another!?!?! People do it with the Axial chassis.
Person 'a' "I have the scx Honcho"
Person 'b' "well I have the scx rubicon".........ok, you both have the same truck!!! No-one complains about that !
All sxc's be it kit or rtr, come with everything to make it one or the other, still no-one complains or hates, but heaven forbid Traxxas does it, and has done so for longer, just let it be !!!
Let people buy it, run it realistically or as intended, and then let the voices be heard. The idiots who want to try to run a trail truck up the side of a 5 foot tall boulder can complain about how bad it sucks.
People are starting to get out of hand blending all terms together. A trail truck is not a rock climber. A scaler is not a rock climber. A trail truck is not a scaler.
rock climber....all different terms.
Just let it be what it is !!!!
So I have taken a break from this thread for a day, re-reviewed the specs and looked long and hard at the video and pics. I've really tried to find some redeeming new qualities in this truck. No such luck. Its LAME LAME LAME LAME LAME. I truly cannot see how an entirely parts bin designed truck WITH A BRUSHED MOTOR/ESC could possibly sell for $299??? No way, no how would I part with that kind of change for this. Sorry guys I really tried to like it because I do like Traxxas. But my disappointment over this is eating at me. So I came back to vent. So to the designers that wasted an entire afternoon coming up with this, its LAME.
I think your disapproval for this truck has been made quite clear before this last post. No need to start blatantly bashing it...
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This truck seems to me a GREAT example of an entry level R/C car.
I started with a 3.3 t-maxx,.....but that is only because I got it as a gift. I never woulda bough a 500 buck truck as my first one other wise.
I have been flying R/C heli's for the last six years and one of the things I have learned (besides that cars are WAY easier.....not kidding) is that ANY entry level R/C vehicle with a good name and some QUAILTY behind it is a GREAT thing. This seems to fit the bill,
Is it perfect for EVERYONE? Of course not. But I challenge all nay Sayers to name ONE that is.
Harley? Please...they only have three real frames and the differences beyond that are tanks and bars. Dodge? Their "new" turbo Dart is just a re-badged SRT4 Neon. Chevy? Nope. Ford? Nope. Acura? They strip the name off their cars and replace them with numbers...aka "integra"
So where is the complaint? At the bottom of the parts bin that ALL manufacturers use, that's where.
The Stampede 4x4 VXL is also a shortened Slash 4x4 with a new Body and tires and became a huge success. Let us see how this truck will be in real world application before prejudging it.
To all the disappointend people: I think your expectations on this product are too high. This is an entry level RC for beginners and younger fellows. Everyone who wants a more capable trail / crawl /bash truck just get the Summit.
This rig is conformation that the $200( Helion Dominus) rtr's at the lhs are selling like hotcakes at a fat camp.
I didn't realize that this was such a sensitive forum. I will keep my opinion to myself.
I'm very interested in getting one.
Should be a ton of fun to trail and bash even with the 12T motor.
The more I look at this truck and watch the videos the more it grows on me. I don't have any 4X4 Traxxas vehicles so maybe this might be my first. It would need a few upgrade right out of the gate tho.
I still don't like the name and think Traxxas should make some new vehicles but this does look pretty cool.
Cool looking little truck and should be fairly capable! At the suggested price point ($299) however.... I think that is too much to ask for a brushed motor trail truck. If it was $25 more that a Rustler XL-5 I could see it selling well, but at $299 you are better off saving up another $100 and buying a Stampede 4X4...
It is like an affordable Summit, however it should be more affordable!
Who buys a brushed motor RC from Traxxas? Entry level RC enthusiasts. What is this? A brushed RC from Traxxas. I think they hit their target while giving new to RC folks more options - Good Job.
To those of us who refuse to go less than 70MPH, you just have to live with that fact that this was not designed for you.
I personally think it lacks originality, but I have been around Traxxas since 1994. FORTUNATELY, I can still acquire parts for my older cars because they dont change their models like Harley Davidson....Yearly!!! In 10 years, I'll still be able to get parts for a Traxxas rig, because of this. Do I agree completely, no....but I'm thanksful....somedays. HEHE
Its an affordable entry level 4x4 that will take a pounding! Thats for sure. Another plus. You can mod it to do what you want but I think those who buy them will buy it for what it is and use it as intended and be simply tickled. If you want a true trail rig, other manufactures make them for just a tiny bit more...you will be better off with one of them simply because this is not a "Scaler" RC entry - doesnt have to be.
My wishes, a body with an integrated cage of some sorts and some better looking wheels....other than that - I can live with it.
Last edited by Redsawacs; 08-12-2013 at 12:53 PM.
I've been hating on this truck since its release. I have to now admit I was wrong and admit Traxxas hit a home run with this IF it sells for around $225.
My reasoning for this..... Google telluride. I thought the name sounded familiar. Telluride is a trail system in Colorado. It's not a rock crawling area at all. It is a bunch of gravel and dirt roads that people can traverse and enjoy the scenery. A subaru outback could drive the area quite well. This truck is modeled for that and they did a good job.
I still would love to see some NEW vehicles like a solid axle crawler, scaler, or monster truck. Along with a 1/8 buggy, and some purpose built race vehicles like the old SRT and TCP.
It will not sell for 225. Traxxas says that 300 is the SUGGESTED SELLING PRICE, not MSRP.
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True but again already has them down to $249
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I seem to be in the minority but I think this is a pretty interesting truck. As a Stampede 4x4 owner I know its a solid platform to build on. True, the idea of a trail truck is not for everybody but I thought it was an interesting enough idea to try converting my Stampede into one after seeing a few different threads on here.
Here is a link to what I did, a geared down brushed motor Stampede and some videos of the result.
As far as value goes, a 2wd Stampede is selling at Tower for $219 so only $80 more for a 4x4 platform with the same electronics isn't unreasonable.
And it isn't silly since I was just pointing out how parts sharing isn't normally considered a bad thing. Not anything more then that. I used the automotive industry just because it is ripe with examples. The same can be done with almost any aspect of production that doesn't make one off products.
And of course a new platform will be called for eventually....and probably sooner rather then later.
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What concerns me is the listed weight of this thing. Over A full pound heavier then the stampede 4x4, really!? (83.42oz vs 66.45oz) That alone could most assuredly kill the stock motor in record time, no matter how low the gearing or small the tires are.
That must be a mistake. The telluride will lose almost a full pound just on tires compared to the pede...
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Doesn't do it for me, but I am sure my kids would love it.
It is the sort of vehicle that I'd run with my kids for a bash around the park, and hence I could end up with one People being overly critical and saying that it is just a Stampede are missing the point, this isn't aimed at Summit buyers, seasoned rock crawlers, or racers... This is for people new to RC and kids, to them this is a totally different vehicle to a Stampede!
Come on, this looks like a Jeep and not a Monster Truck! I see nothing to rant and rave about either way for me, but for a begginer who wants a 4x4 shaped basher then this is perfect. An easy to maintain and proven 4WD platform with 4x4 looks. What's wrong with that?
If I could be critical at all it would be about the body, I think if Traxxas licensed some bodies from real 1:1 car makers they would end up with some more interesting looking cars. At least for me this would look cooler with a more scale body on it.
I kind of think this IS meant as a very basic version of the Summit - in that it has a wide variety of abilities. In theory, the Summit can bash in high gear - I've had mine out to a BMX park before and it was surprisingly capable. Not saying it could hang with devoted bash machines by any stretch - but compared to an SCX10?! One time I had to break in a new battery in my Honcho and I didn't have time to drive to a trail. I drive around in a grass field. You know what would have been more fun that that? Anything! The fact the Honcho was dog slow, I can understand. But the bobble-head body movements (caused by shocks that were completely empty as they leaked themselves dry after a month of use), and the, ahem, "handling" of a rig with two solid axles.... All of a sudden the Summit looks likes a brushless E-Revo!!!
And on the trail, the Summit need make no apologies for its capability whatsoever.
Will the Telluride be as capable off-road as a Honcho? Almost certainly not. But would it be better for bashing and just playing around in a field? Oh heck yes!!!! It will be 2,000,000,000 times better than a Honcho at that.
So, if you're trying to be a jack of all trades, you won't be great at either thing. The Telluride won't be a GREAT trail truck (for hardcore off-roading), it won't be a GREAT basher. But to make something that is decent at bashing and GREAT off-road, you need a Summit. But that costs twice as much and is WAY more complicated mechnically. A great truck, but maybe not the way to get beginners into the hobby.
I still think this truck is a good compromise and will be a great way to get new folks into trailing.
IF YOU ASK ME THIS TRUCK PLEASES EVERYONE
1) For those people who wanted a kit. It Is A Kit. The truck is gonna sell cheap (probably around $240 in the stores). So its as cheap as a kit, has all the important parts (solid tranny, solid chassis, solid diffs). So just cast off those plastic links, sell the slash tires, and install your sensored brushless system.
2) For those people who are making trail trucks out of your stampedes. Its already done for you. Many stampede owners want something more hard-core, more off road ready. Well it has shorter arms and smaller tires which gives it a more realistic scale appearance. Its waterproof. The motor does not cogg. And it has "limited slip" diffs (100k oil).
3) For those who want a beginner truck, RTR at $240 with the durability of a slash/erevo drive train? All those new (and cheap) $199 off brand trucks that you see popping up in the hobby stores have nothing this durable inside. I would take a Telluride over that cheap "Ruckus" anyday.
4) Bashers? Its a low priced stampede/slash and is approximately 90% as durable. And waterproof.
5)Racers? It is based on the slash - Well, NO its no racer. But its cheap enough that you can buy simple upgrades to make it better.
6) Summit owners? Well I gotta draw the line somewhere. THIS AINT NO SUMMIT. NUFF SAID
Keep in mind Traxxas is a BUSINESS and they have to compete with these low priced cheap R/C's that keep popping up for $150. The average buyer does not know quality, they see price first. Then once the money is spent and it breaks THEN they look for quality.
Just like a real car company , you need something that keeps the quick money coming in.
- for every every Chevy Corvette sold Chevrolet sells 20 Impalas and Malibu's
- for every V8 Mustang Ford sells, it sells 30+ Ford Fusions / Taurus's
- for every Twin turbo 911 that porsche sell, they sell 30+ porsche boxsters
the flag ship Slash / Summit / Erevo grabs the attention, but its the lesser priced stampede, grave digger, Telluride that brings in a steady cash flow.
kinda reminds me of that Daihatsu Rocky
Add some larger tires, a light bar, an MMP with a sensored motor, lower the gearing, lock the rear diff and its ready for some serious trails.
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You brought up some really good points, although this truck is not a kit. Or did it say that somewhere and I missed it? I it is a kit then I will definitely buy one just to build a Traxxas kit again.
Its not gonna sell for 240$. 300 is not the msrp. It is traxxas's suggrested selling price. Traxxas's suggested selling price for the pede 4x4 was 399$. Now it sells for well over that. The only way you will get one for well under 300$ is with discount coupons or member specials from the big guns on line. If you want to get the price of this thing down to kit status, sell the radio, servo, tires, esc and motor. You then have a truck with kit equipment status for under 200$, with none of the stuff you dont want. take it apart, and put it back together... there is your kit. Oh, if you do get it from one of the big guns online with a nice discount, you can get your "kit" for under 150$ 8)
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I am going to build my own. I don't care for the plastic center driveshaft and plastic camber links or the brushed motor.
ERBE, ERBE, Summit, Slash 4X4, Bandit,
I have always wanted a all terrain rc with a brushless system that isn't expensive like the summit, I would just throw on some s1's, lock the diffs, throw in a brushless system, and find an optimal setting for articulation and call it done. Honestly if I didn't miss having a 2wd I would get this, but when the money comes I'm getting a 2wd....
Slash 4x4 LCG, Rusty VXL(not runnin), and my bike.
I found the parts list here:
Looks like it will come standard with a 83T spur and 12T pinion.
New part numbers for the gear clutch 6766, arms 6731, and body mount 7415x. It also list 3619 which is the mounts used on the Monster Jam trucks. Interesting though is 7415 (non x) comes up as the mounts for the 1/10 Rally.
The only other thing that stuck out is it looks like it will come standard with bushings in the bellcrank instead of bearings like the Stampede 4x4.