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    Dans summit build/rebuild/upgrade thread

    Just thought i would do a build thread as i am constantly adding new upgrades and parts and doing alterations to my truck.

    My truck is stock except for:
    -Red Alum Pushrods and Toe Links
    -Orange Springs on Rear
    -Steel Centre Driveshafts
    -Duratrax 5000mah Nimh Batt's

    At the moment my truck is in heaps of pieces getting a strip down and cleanup/rebuild.
    It started off looking like this:


    And i am now half way through cleaning it all up.
    Will keep you guys posted.
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    Ugly Beadlocks

    I dechromed one of my old wheels just to test some different things.
    After it was nice and black i sat the fake beadlock back on.
    The first thing i noticed was how black, clean and smart the wheel looked and it even had a shine about it ... but the beadlock... well it was all dull and scratched.

    So i sanded all the burs off the beadlock.

    Then i gave it a spray of some undercoat.

    Then i gave it 3 coats of nice "cherry red" paint.
    They now look pretty smart on the shiny black wheels.

    This is before i painted them. Definitely brightens the appearance.

    Will see how well the paint hold up to a bit of bashing.
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    Looking clean keep us posted
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    So far i have cleaned almost everything.
    Still got to do the screws and few other bits and the wheels and chassis.

    Got some stuff in the mail today

    -100k Diff lube
    -2 packs of dustboots
    -New ring and pinion (even though i don't need one because i finally got the bearing off the original)
    -Diff components... had to buy the whole lot even though i only needed those little blue seals... Can only do 1 diff at this stage as the HS only had 1 pack in stock.

    So i will be rebuilding 1 diff tonight.
    and cleaning screws... hate that bit.
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    Rebuilding Diffs

    Finally got my other diff carrier kit so I could use the seals and finish rebuilding my other diff.
    This is the old seals. One was a bit hacked and the other had all furry edges that weren't sealing.

    In the other diff one of the seals was in tiny little bits.
    All cleaned and ready to go together.

    Filled it up with 100k diff lube and screwed the ring gear on.


    All greased up ready to be screwed up and put into the bulk head.


    This is where I am up to with my rebuild after my clean.
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    Battery Bay Vents

    Decided to dremel out the ribs in the battery bay vents at the back for the battery leads to run through.

    Turned out pretty good, although if I'd had a bit more of a thought before I started I wouldn't have cut all 3 out. I would have left 1 rib in for a bit more support, but they should last because they aren't under any load from anything.
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    Dust Boots for Pivot Balls

    The dust boots that cover the pivot balls seem to rip all the time. I don't really care but when I do a large clean of my truck I decide to put new ones on.
    I had trouble with the new ones being so tight that you couldn't screw the pivot ball unless you released the dust boot retainer to let the dust boot spin freely with the pivot ball.

    In my rebuild this time I found a solution quite by accident.
    I just happen to have a bit of WD40 on my hands and I touched a pivot ball and then went to put the dust boot on and noticed it slid on really well.

    So now I just rub a bit of WD40 onto the shaft or you could use a bit of light oil and the pivot ball can spin freely without the dust boot getting all screwed up around it.

    Just thought I'd post that for the interest of anyone putting new dust boots on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielhawkins View Post
    The dust boots that cover the pivot balls seem to rip all the time. I don't really care but when I do a large clean of my truck I decide to put new ones on.
    I had trouble with the new ones being so tight that you couldn't screw the pivot ball unless you released the dust boot retainer to let the dust boot spin freely with the pivot ball.

    In my rebuild this time I found a solution quite by accident.
    I just happen to have a bit of WD40 on my hands and I touched a pivot ball and then went to put the dust boot on and noticed it slid on really well.

    So now I just rub a bit of WD40 onto the shaft or you could use a bit of light oil and the pivot ball can spin freely without the dust boot getting all screwed up around it.

    Just thought I'd post that for the interest of anyone putting new dust boots on.

    Thank s for sharing it , i had the same issue and now i will the same you done !
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    Lowered The Body

    I decided to lower my body shell.
    Due to the cross piece in the front body posts I could only lower the body down 3 holes but that was enough to make it look a little more snazzy.
    BEFORE:

    AFTER:

    At full, maximum suspension travel and full lock steering the wheel does hit the body shell but not enough to wreck anything.
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    De-Chromed The Wheels

    I decided I liked the black wheels so I de-chromed them.


    And here they are with their cherry red painted bead locks on.


    I thought they turned out well. But for the big test... will the paint on the bead locks hold up?

    The beast ready to go!


    LOL realised that front wheel was round the wrong way after I took this.
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    Crawling Time

    Went to some big rocks for its first use after it clean up.

    Climbing some rocks.

    Going down some rocks.


    There was trickier and steeper stuff there but I was having too much fun to take photos.
    After the run I checked the truck over.
    A part of one tyre came unglued (probably a result from de-chroming) and the bead locks held up pretty well.
    Where they did get scratched, you can see a bit of undercoat or the old red but most of the main surface still looks good.
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    nice! That cleaned up great! I am going to dechrome my wheels tonight. do I need to remove the tire first? or can I get away with just masking it off?

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    I didn't do anything with the tyre.
    I just removed the fake bead lock, and cleaned the tyres with some water, then dried them.
    then I got some easy off and sprayed the rim trying not to get excessive amounts of it on the tyre but it doesn't seem to hurt to get a little bit on the tyre. Left it on there for about 1 hour or so (in the sun) and then re-applied and left for about another hour and then washed off with a scrubbing brush, warm water and some soap.
    The easy off does change the glue colour so don't worry if you see like a reddy brown colour over top of the glue bead.
    I did have about a 5cm piece of my tyre come unglued after this on my crawl as I said but only a matter of sticking some more glue under it and push it back on.
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    awesome thanks!

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    RIT Dyed My Chassis and Rockers

    I was cleaning and regreasing my summit and i decided it would be the perfect time to RIT dye the chassis and rockers black.
    I went and bought 2 packs of Black Azabache RIT Dye (wanted Black Negro but couldn't get it) and went ahead.
    I had a look at craig.mitch316's how to on dyeing (Post #135) but didn't do it all the way he did. I did it a bit simpler.
    I took this bucket and filled it up with hot water from the tap, topped with 2 kettle loads of boiling water.

    Because it was so much water i added 2 packets of dye and about 500ml of vinegar.

    I mixed it thoroughly until i reckoned it was pretty much all dissolved.
    I placed the bits to be dyed into the bucket (make sure they are all submerged) and left them, coming back occasionally to stir.
    Because i didn't have it simmering over a stove (like craig) i left it for 3 hours instead of 2 and i reckon it turned out good.
    Here is the finished product.

    Will post some pics of when everything is put back together again.

    Just adding this to my build/rebuild/upgrade thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danielhawkins View Post
    I was cleaning and regreasing my summit and i decided it would be the perfect time to RIT dye the chassis and rockers black.
    I went and bought 2 packs of Black Azabache RIT Dye (wanted Black Negro but couldn't get it) and went ahead.
    I had a look at craig.mitch316's how to on dyeing (Post #135) but didn't do it all the way he did. I did it a bit simpler.
    I took this bucket and filled it up with hot water from the tap, topped with 2 kettle loads of boiling water.

    Because it was so much water i added 2 packets of dye and about 500ml of vinegar.

    I mixed it thoroughly until i reckoned it was pretty much all dissolved.
    I placed the bits to be dyed into the bucket (make sure they are all submerged) and left them, coming back occasionally to stir.
    Because i didn't have it simmering over a stove (like craig) i left it for 3 hours instead of 2 and i reckon it turned out good.
    Here is the finished product.

    Will post some pics of when everything is put back together again.

    Just adding this to my build/rebuild/upgrade thread.
    Where did you buy your RIT Dye from? Just stores like BIG W?
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    Big W sells it, so does Spotlight, Lincraft and any other Fabric / Craft type store oh and eBay.

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    Yes Big W was where i got mine. As Erbe said it can be bought from many other places as well.

    If your considering this i would get the "black negro" colour just to make sure it is dark enough. I think the colour i got which was "black azabache" is not quite as dark as "black negro" but it still worked.
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    ...And one steering servo goes down

    No it is not completely wrecked. Thankfully sometimes they have plastic gears that break instead of other things.
    I was bashing and flipped it and it landed on 1 front wheel... the full weight of the truck.
    I didn't notice until a few minutes later when i had to flip it over from a roll. Some little motor on it was going and wouldn't stop. It was the steering servo. Yes i totally smoothed 1 gear and lost a tooth of another.

    So here is some carnage pics. The bits of plastic in the grease.


    The 2 gears effected.


    AND...The main victim: Yes it is very smooth


    Don't know whether to take the chance and by a single servo or just replace the gears.
    I probably will just replace the gears and wait till something more drastic happens to a servo before i swap it for a Hitech or similar.
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    go hitec

    can only get better. more steering strengh and less servo deaths
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    Small Battery pack issue

    I accidentally dropped one of my nimh packs this afternoon and it split the wrapping on the outside as shown in this picture.

    Will this be ok if i just tape it up or will i have to try and get it re-wrapped.
    By the way this is not a TRAXXAS batt but i thought it would be ok just to talk about a split wrapping.
    MODS, let me know if this isn't ok.
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    With your battery you could get some large, maybe 50mm or bigger, heat shrink and shrink it on or tape would probably do fine, just make sure the connection isn't split
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    Thats a good idea. As far as i can see it hasn't done anything to the connection...Thankfully...
    Will let you know how i go.
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    ha ha ha those green nimh cells give the brand away......they last!!!!. about 2 yrs use for me and they still hold 3000mah with minimal heat. fresh off the charger

    as far as the battery electrical tape...just make it secure
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    Servo Gear Replacement

    So my truck has been down since i stripped out the gears in 1 steering servo. Decided not to take the upgrade plunge yet.
    Went to the LHS and bought a replacement set.


    Her it is all cleaned out an ready to be rebuilt.


    And all greased up ready to go...


    These servos come with grease in them as stock so i decided i better put grease back in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reod12x2 View Post
    ha ha ha those green nimh cells give the brand away......they last!!!!. about 2 yrs use for me and they still hold 3000mah with minimal heat. fresh off the charger

    as far as the battery electrical tape...just make it secure
    Glad to hear it. Just gotta get a bit more money before i take the lipo pathway... hopefully it will be soon.

    Looked around locally and i only can get 20mm diameter heat shrink tubing. Haven't been to every possible place that might sell it but might just use electrical tape for now.
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    Carnage Time!!

    Carnage:


    Yup i broke my first drive shaft after a year and half of having my truck.
    I have some spare drives so one of them can go on.

    Best bit was i had fun. Especially when i didn't realise i snapped it and the truck was doing some sick drifts in the dirt.

    Just decided to check all drives and the bearings are starting to go bad. What do you guys recommend?

    Boca
    Avids

    Are there others and what would be best? Only planning on replacing the 8 bearings in the axle carriers.
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    I went with boca sealed ceramics
    And they have served me well


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    When they say that it is Ceramic does it still have steel in it? My main concern is do they rust or is the ceramic material rust resistant?
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    Check out their site.How much you want to spend.... Lol
    Mine were not the top of the line but were not cheap either.
    I run in the wet a fair bit.so I went to sealed


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    Yes i am wanting sealed as well. What seal type did you get? And Have you ever had to open them up and clean them or does grit 100% not get passed the seal?
    Haha yes just realised they can get quite expensive, but the Ceramic Yellow Seal aren't too expensive but compared to Traxxas bearings
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    It was a year ago,green seal I think. never serviced them. I should check them I guess, been 1000 miles or so lol.i got inner and outer wheel bearings and inner and outer pinion bearings it was about $60.


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    LOL that IS a long time. So would you be able to link me to what you got, is that ok? Just wanting to make sure i get ceramic not steel just for some extra quality.
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    I use Avid Bearings. You can't beat them for $1. At that cost I don't clean them, I just put new ones in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielhawkins View Post
    LOL that IS a long time. So would you be able to link me to what you got, is that ok? Just wanting to make sure i get ceramic not steel just for some extra quality.
    I will send a link


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cglennrichardson View Post
    I use Avid Bearings. You can't beat them for $1. At that cost I don't clean them, I just put new ones in!
    So how much time do you get out of them before replacing? Longer than the Traxxas ones?
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    Another thing i might look at getting soon is a Dewalt Motor.
    Is the 14.4v motor by Kershaw Designs the one called Dewalt 820? Looks the same but just want confirmation.
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    Yes dewalt 14.4 is what kershaw calls a 820


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    Rebuild/Upgrade coming soon...

    I have decided to leave my truck intact for Christmas and pull it apart in the new year because that is when i start work and will be able to earn some money a bit faster and do a "RC UPGRADES MONEY SAVE". The bearings are starting to go bad on it but i think they can wait until then.

    In the meantime i am going to bash it good and proper. I am not going to worry about breaking things, i just wanna hav fun an get the most out of this thing.

    When i pull it to bits i am planning on a few extra's to go on and some replacements.
    This will pronounced me broke ... just kidding but it sure is going to hit my bank hard even if i do save up.

    -Boca Bearings for the axle carriers only
    -All lights + light bar (Wires have broken off flush with the light and would be pretty tricky to solder back on)... not my strong point.
    -Dewalt
    -Lipo + LVA
    -Anything else i find that needs replacing/rebuilding
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    My Family and I and my Summit of course are heading to the beach . Heading to a place called Bribie Island north of Brisbane. Going to enjoy the day out and do some fishing and swimming, but like always i will have to run the summit, unfortunately for 1 run only since i only have 1 set of batts. Where we are going is lots of dry, thick sand and also a massive sand bar. I still have stock tires but i find it a fun challenge in the thick sand.
    Will hopefully get some pics and maybe some video (since i have a Contour now) to post up here.
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