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    Yes another tire debate,, but its a good one Proline tires faceoff come take a vote?

    Proline Trencher X's Vs Proline Big Joes 3.8

    Which one would you choose and why?

    Pics and vids are welcomed

    Let the debate begin =]
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    Theres no debate. Big joes arent a great choice for crawling which is why you see nearly no one using them on a summit. They are too wide and square edged. The Trencher X's are great for crawling but not as good as the stock tires IMO. Now if you were in the Emaxx forum, you might get a different answer, but for a summit, most steer clear of big joes.
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    I've heard that the Big Joes resist ballooning better than the Trenchers.
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    I just got some Trencher X's for my Summit two days ago. I LOVE THEM!






    Here, read this thread. LINK
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    More opinions guys I need the help -- Also what tires are you currently running on your summit? Thank you WOLFSLASH16 those trenchers look great
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    I had trenchers on my p4de, loved them, awesome tire, but i wanted something different this time out...so far so good on the big joes, haven't had a problem with them and they crawl good. not as well as the stockers, but i don't have to worry about these ripping as much, plus no ballooning...and a chance to get my pic on here again


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    anyone got a pic of trenchers vs big joe?

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    Hpi tires don't know the Rims


    Ax8017 and mud slingers


    OriginalTrenchers and tech 5 wheels


    And stock
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    Pro-line Trencher X with snowchains on.
    I lost one of my chains when i was outside driving, at night. Couldn't find it again. It was dark... so i have to make a new one!
    On snow... i got much better traction with my snow chains on. I can see it when i have full throttle, the truck turn on it's self.

    Here is a video when i use my Pro-line trencher x and my snow chains.


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    I like the Trencher's on Geode wheels. IMO a great bashing setup for the Summit!
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    I don't think Proline has any great crawling tires. I need some 3.8 Hot Bodies Rover Crawler Tires or some J-Concepts Rocx Crawler tires


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    Proline needs to make some of these:

    Here are some 40 series crawler tires from RC4WD.

    http://store.rc4wd.com/X-Lock-Lightn...res_p_757.html

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    I can't find footage of them on a summit. If you got some, please demonstrate the crawling performance on video, and link here.
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    Proline doesnt profess to make 3.8 crawler specific tires. We just choose to use the trenchers because they are, in general, cheaper than most other dedicated crawling setups and they are more multi purpose. Those mud slingers are pretty gnarly and would probably crawl pretty good. But the truth is, the stock tire crawls really well. balloons like crazy, but crawls well.



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    I like the trenchers for most things




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    I take umbrage with that axial (or tamiya?) on the top of that pile!!

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    Its a axial custom plus He had the tunes
    http://youtu.be/GosWKwq0mPg


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    What are you using them for?? That's the main question. The trencher x's are great on dirt, loose gravel, grass and pavement, don't know how well they crawl as I don't have a place to crawl here in Florida, just sand and grass lol. But I love my trencher x's over the stock tires for what I do, if I was going to go crawl I would just slap the stockers back on, when I did use my summit for crawling up north when I first got it and the stock tires performed quite well. Good luck with whatever choice you make, if you have enough money why not get both sets of what you want and if you don't like one set sell them.


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    What are you using them for?? That's the main question. The trencher x's are great on dirt, loose gravel, grass and pavement, don't know how well they crawl as I don't have a place to crawl here in Florida, just sand and grass lol. But I love my trencher x's over the stock tires for what I do, if I was going to go crawl I would just slap the stockers back on, when I did use my summit for crawling up north when I first got it and the stock tires performed quite well. Good luck with whatever choice you make, if you have enough money why not get both sets of what you want and if you don't like one set sell them.
    +1, I love my Trencher X's. I'll see if I can up load some pictures (video?) of me running them in the snow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satyrisci View Post
    Proline needs to make some of these:

    Here are some 40 series crawler tires from RC4WD.

    http://store.rc4wd.com/X-Lock-Lightn...res_p_757.html


    Those tires are no good for anything in my book, got a set when they where on sale and did not last one day before taking them off.
    They are soft enough that is for sure, but tread is lacking for grip. You want a set that is slightly used and been mounted on beadlocks, IM me your address and will send them to you free, other wise they will sit in a box. Could not have been all that great sense they now are out of production.

    Right now running Cyclone 40 Series Beadlock Wheels, & Mud Slingers Monster Size 40 Series for shoes.
    Wanting to try out a set of Mickey Thompson Baja Claw TTC 3.8" Tires, but means another set of wheels.

    Endeavoring to persevere !

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    Lol. Ill take them. I just ruined my tires trying to unglue them. Not happy with 2 of the three way to unglue tires.
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    Lol. Ill take them. I just ruined my tires trying to unglue them. Not happy with 2 of the three way to unglue tires.
    Have you tried boiling them? I've heard that's the best way... Well, what ways did you try?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfslash16 View Post
    Have you tried boiling them? I've heard that's the best way... Well, what ways did you try?
    I started boiling tires this mornkng at 9:07. I just now finished the 4 tires and its 3:35.
    I baked the same wheels and tires at 400 for 45 total minutes flipping them about every 5 min and they would not break loose. I baked my other set and they didn't want to come loose so I left them in longer and melted the tires.
    I don't have any asetone so I couldn't try that. I did try MEK and it didn't work but It did clean the glue off.
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    I PERFER THE TRENCHERS.
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    I really like the stock tires for crawling, Pro-line's Mashers for everyday running - they hold shape well and Slingshots for sand!

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    ^^ Those videos hurt my head.

    The most important difference in those older style Trenchers on the Tech 5 wheels he talks about is the offset. They have a much higher offset and therefore make the track width of the truck narrower. Some like this. I personally do not. The newer Trencher X's on Desperados are available in a 1/2 offset so they maintain the stock track width of the truck. The Trencher X's are also wider than not only the older trenchers (like in the video) but also the stock canyon AT's.
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    Bump great info awesome thread thanks guys
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