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    Quote Originally Posted by Next perce View Post
    Is the castle 3800 sidewinder water proof or at least water resistant? I am not looking to ford rivers here but I do come across the occasional mud puddle or two or three or four.

    Reading the description and I can't see it anywhere.
    It's not waterproof. The new sidewinder 3 is

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    well 23/86 is stock gearing for the vxl, the sidewinder gearing I believe 18/88 someone correct me if I'm wrong, there's other people that can help you out w/ the cc, talk to billybones

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    I don't know how accurate these charts are but it should give you a close enough idea how it'll end up

    http://www.castlecreations.com/suppo...ring_chart.pdf

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    I'm up,let me catchup .
    Quote Originally Posted by XRated View Post
    well 23/86 is stock gearing for the vxl, the sidewinder gearing I believe 18/88 someone correct me if I'm wrong, there's other people that can help you out w/ the cc, talk to billybones
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    I'm up,let me catchup .
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    Billy you crack me up! So what is the suggestion lol

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    There is only 300 kv difference between the velineon and the cc 3800,but the 3800 is a 4 pole,(four magnets not two)this gives the 3800 a lot more torque.
    The way they rate kv's on an rc is volts x rpm.I,E 3800x7.4=28120 rpm's.just under 2/3 of the motors max recommended rpm
    23-86 at 48p should run about 40 mph.
    15-86 is a 1:1 roll out,the motor turns once,the tires move one inch.
    with stock tires this is the motors sweet point,or a good starting point.
    Its a strange way of setting things,since we all were raised to know 1 kv = 1000 volts.
    http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html
    this sight is easier to navigate,and remember a 4 pole will run cooler than a two pole,but don't under estimate the velineon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    There is only 300 kv difference between the velineon and the cc 3800,but the 3800 is a 4 pole,(four magnets not two)this gives the 3800 a lot more torque.
    The way they rate kv's on an rc is volts x rpm.I,E 3800x7.4=28120 rpm's.just under 2/3 of the motors max recommended rpm
    23-86 at 48p should run about 40 mph.
    15-86 is a 1:1 roll out,the motor turns once,the tires move one inch.
    with stock tires this is the motors sweet point,or a good starting point.
    Its a strange way of setting things,since we all were raised to know 1 kv = 1000 volts.
    http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html
    this sight is easier to navigate,and remember a 4 pole will run cooler than a two pole,but don't under estimate the velineon.
    So Billy with my gear setting I'm not able to wheelie ?

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    I still am unsure on what to go with the velineon or the water proof castle. Maybe I will get velineon for 1 truck and put a castle in my other truck. I just answered my question thanks for listening all.

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    Getting your truck to wheelie is all in the tires.With stock tires a wheelie is near impossible,not,but close.
    Here is a pic of a truck geared 15 56 32p gears,at 20 mph kick it in the pants ,the front will come up about 3 inches and stay there for about 30 foot and es down without wheelie bar,and the rear of the truck never touches chassis the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    So Billy with my gear setting I'm not able to wheelie ?
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    For the price of the water proof castle,imo,id go velineon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Next perce View Post
    I still am unsure on what to go with the velineon or the water proof castle. Maybe I will get velineon for 1 truck and put a castle in my other truck. I just answered my question thanks for listening all.
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    now this truck on2s,all i run is 2s,except my one lone 3s i use to find weak spots.
    Anyway,with the slipper 1+ turns out,is near impossible to keep the front end down,in the dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    Getting your truck to wheelie is all in the tires.With stock tires a wheelie is near impossible,not,but close.
    Here is a pic of a truck geared 15 56 32p gears,at 20 mph kick it in the pants ,the front will come up about 3 inches and stay there for about 30 foot and es down without wheelie bar,and the rear of the truck never touches chassis the ground.
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    Ya I have the stock Lil bfg Goodrich tires. And when I punch it it just spins and goes. Even when rolling around 15mph or so and then punch and it breaks loose hahahha

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    That cc 3800 is a lot of motor for the slash.take the stock tires and save them,or they will be bold in less than a week.
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    Ya I have the stock Lil bfg Goodrich tires. And when I punch it it just spins and goes. Even when rolling around 15mph or so and then punch and it breaks loose hahahha
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    On road wheelie tires,pro line street fighters,off road wheelie tires,pro line sling shots,and
    loss slipper at least 1/2 plus out,lose conditions only,good all around wheelie off road tire pl trenchers.IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    That cc 3800 is a lot of motor for the slash.take the stock tires and save them,or they will be bold in less than a week.
    Ok. What gearing should I run ?? And what's the number break down. I know 19pinion is 19 teeth on the motor gear. And 90spur is 90 teeth on the Trans gear. What does the # P stand for ?? So higher the Pinion gear and lower the spur gear for more acceleration ?

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    I need to get a temp gun :-/ ran it today and the motor wast too hot. I was able to touch the motor for along period of time and it didt burn.

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    The p stands for pitch.these are Robinson hardened steel 32p gears,and clutch(aka slipper)about 100 bucks worth.
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    The gears on your stock truck are 48 pitch,much quieter,but more delekit,The Robinsons are racing gears,very load,and very strong.
    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    Ok. What gearing should I run ?? And what's the number break down. I know 19pinion is 19 teeth on the motor gear. And 90spur is 90 teeth on the Trans gear. What does the # P stand for ?? So higher the Pinion gear and lower the spur gear for more acceleration ?
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    Try this sight,take your time to learn how it works.
    The velineon pulls,a said 65 amp continuous,the 3800 pulls about 140 amps continuous, these are estimates,not wright en in stone.
    http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    Try this sight,take your time to learn how it works.
    The velineon pulls,a said 65 amp continuous,the 3800 pulls about 140 amps continuous, these are estimates,not wright en in stone.
    http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/top_speed.html
    So the Pitch stands for the strongest of the gear ?? Where can I order that Robison kit ?

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    Robinson is pretty much racing only. be shure that's what you want,you can get 32 pitch plastic too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    So the Pitch stands for the strongest of the gear ?? Where can I order that Robison kit ?
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    Looks like those steel gears could chew you fingers off if they wanted.

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    You cant run them without a cover for that reason.Never happened to me ,but some one on a post said a Marshall had bloody fingers from his.
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    Looks like those steel gears could chew you fingers off if they wanted.
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    Ya those gears look pretty badass

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    That green trans is all Robinson inside and out,that trans is worth more than the average truck,but if you've ever seen what i put it through, and only replace the bearings,its worth it.
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    Ya those gears look pretty badass
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    The p stands for pitch.these are Robinson hardened steel 32p gears,and clutch(aka slipper)about 100 bucks worth.
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    The gears on your stock truck are 48 pitch,much quieter,but more delekit,The Robinsons are racing gears,very load,and very strong.
    What pinion/spur ratio are those ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    For the price of the water proof castle,imo,id go velineon.
    I don't take your recommendation lightly thank you for your input. The slash with the larger tires and the Blingy chrome bumpers looks delicious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    That cc 3800 is a lot of motor for the slash.take the stock tires and save them,or they will be bold in less than a week.
    The stock ones are really only good for on road
    If you run off road get those tires first

    Then something like proline streetfighters
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    This is a 12 tooth pinion and 56 tooth spur,and 32 pitch,It's top speed is around 30 mph on 2s 65c 64000mah,I really want a 10 tooth pinion,that should give me 27 mph,but it should get there very quick. Our indoor clay track is small,and I stink on clay. And with a 10 tooth pinion I should be able to back the slipper off about 1 & 1/3 turns,and keep it under control.
    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    What pinion/spur ratio are those ?
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    So what does the adjustment on the clutch making it slipper or hold tighter effect ? Is it too take the trans and shafts ?

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    here you go this should help you a lot

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    The stock traxxas slipper will make a high pitch noise while it's slipping,depending on the terrain traxxas recommends about two feet before the slipper locks down,this will save your drive train.
    Start by tightening it snug,then back off one turn,take a couple test runs and tighten or loosen from their,Once I loosened one up to much and warped the spur gear from the heat.
    That's the beauty of the Robinson,all steel set up,and one piece thick clutch plate,you can run it loss as heck,and not hurt a thing.
    With a cc3800kv you need that to keep it straight,and or the front tires down.
    Is the pic above the first show of the cc3800's torque?
    I see your drive shaft are on their way out also.Before you look at the price,all three of my trucks run tekno,and they have never ,at least yet,let me down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    The stock traxxas slipper will make a high pitch noise while it's slipping,depending on the terrain traxxas recommends about two feet before the slipper locks down,this will save your drive train.
    Start by tightening it snug,then back off one turn,take a couple test runs and tighten or loosen from their,Once I loosened one up to much and warped the spur gear from the heat.
    That's the beauty of the Robinson,all steel set up,and one piece thick clutch plate,you can run it loss as heck,and not hurt a thing.
    With a cc3800kv you need that to keep it straight,and or the front tires down.
    Is the pic above the first show of the cc3800's torque?
    I see your drive shaft are on their way out also.Before you look at the price,all three of my trucks run tekno,and they have never ,at least yet,let me down.


    [IMG][/IMG]
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    http://www.teknorc.com/shop/tkr2210x...rontrear-scte/
    Ya the stock slipper/clutch makes a high pitch whine when it's slipping. I went ahead and snugged it down. Gonna invest into that Robison kit soon. U really don't have to break in brushless ? Cause I really didt take it easy on the first two runs haha.

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    No breaking in..
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    The Robinson is great,maybe the best,but was made for racing.
    You can get a good 32p gear set up for about $15,And I hear that triad slipper is nice.
    Just that Robinson 56 tooth spur was $50,spur and clutch disk.
    Robinson all so makes 48 p and 64p gears as well.
    The 32p hardened gears,will make their presence known,they are loud. And made for high strength and durability.
    The insides of that trans are Robinson also,except the flm sealed diff,but except for the bearings,it has never failed me!
    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    Ya the stock slipper/clutch makes a high pitch whine when it's slipping. I went ahead and snugged it down. Gonna invest into that Robison kit soon. U really don't have to break in brushless ? Cause I really didt take it easy on the first two runs haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    The Robinson is great,maybe the best,but was made for racing.
    You can get a good 32p gear set up for about $15,And I hear that triad slipper is nice.
    Just that Robinson 56 tooth spur was $50,spur and clutch disk.
    Robinson all so makes 48 p and 64p gears as well.
    The 32p hardened gears,will make their presence known,they are loud. And made for high strength and durability.
    The insides of that trans are Robinson also,except the flm sealed diff,but except for the bearings,it has never failed me!
    So is the 32P say lighter then the 64P ?? Pitch = ??

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    32p pitch is stronger than48p,yes that's correct even in plastic,but louder, in plastic too.If your just having fun stay with 48p.
    75% of all my gears,and I have a lot! Are 48p,not to mention you have a wider selection of gear range with 48 pitch.
    In 32p I have one 56 tooth spur 12-18 pinion's.
    In 48p I have pinions from 16-31,and spur's from 73-90.
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    So is the 32P say lighter then the 64P ?? Pitch = ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by billy-bones View Post
    32p pitch is stronger than48p,yes that's correct even in plastic,but louder, in plastic too.If your just having fun stay with 48p.
    75% of all my gears,and I have a lot! Are 48p,not to mention you have a wider selection of gear range with 48 pitch.
    In 32p I have one 56 tooth spur 12-18 pinion's.
    In 48p I have pinions from 16-31,and spur's from 73-90.
    Gotcha......

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDenham View Post
    Gotcha......
    Really you don't need 32p unless you strip alot of gears
    Or if you run in sand
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