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    keeps on flipping over...any suggestions?

    So my rx8 summit keeps on flipping over since I got the PL trencher(not the x ones) tires on tec5's for it. Stock was fine except the ballooning. I emailed PL and they said the regular trencher do not fit there desperado rims, is this true?

    I do like the trenchers, but should I get mashers on desperado's, or should i get off set hex's?

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    you should get the mashers
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    That's what I was deciding on when grabbing a set of Trenchers
    Either trencher on tech 5 or trencher x on desperado
    The trencher x are a bit wider and a tad smaller in diameter
    used with desperado it's the same offset as the geodes

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    If your meaning its doing a wheelie and flipping over, loosen the slipper a bit

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    If you are cornering and flipping, slow down.

    Their regular Trenchers due not fit their Desperado rims... they should know as it is their product!
    The bead type is different between the two.
    Whatever it is I just said... I could be wrong.

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    I might be missing something, but if you're talking about the same tech5 wheels as I have seen, they have less offset. Compared to the stock wheels, the 5's have almost 1/2" per side less offset. This makes your truck about 1" narrower and would surly make it flip more easily.


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    Trenchers on tec 5 do in fact make the truck narrower. Not good for sharp cornering at speed,well the truck doesn't excel at that at the best of times.


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    For me the secret to not rolling over and doing the 'walk of shame' is shock oil, I use 100wt (from a competting manufacture) and it dampens like butter especially full speed on uneven surfaces, like poetry in slow motion. I'm also brushless but on Trencher Xs.

    Slowing down helps too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmie Neutron View Post
    If you are cornering and flipping, slow down.

    Their regular Trenchers due not fit their Desperado rims... they should know as it is their product!
    The bead type is different between the two.
    Yah its with cornering, hate to bring it to a walking pace to turn though.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxi single View Post
    For me the secret to not rolling over and doing the 'walk of shame' is shock oil, I use 100wt (from a competting manufacture) and it dampens like butter especially full speed on uneven surfaces, like poetry in slow motion. I'm also brushless but on Trencher Xs.

    Slowing down helps too
    I did put 80wt in the back. Iam still thinking on doing the fronts

    Quote Originally Posted by jamann View Post
    Trenchers on tec 5 do in fact make the truck narrower. Not good for sharp cornering at speed,well the truck doesn't excel at that at the best of times.


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    True that man, but i wouldnt want it any worse than stock!


    Thanks for the reply's, I have some mashers on desperado rims comming in.

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    I would look into some spacer hexes or different wheels to widen it. But if you have tec5's that means they are glued so you will need a spacer of some kind. I have the tec5 wheels and trenches on my emaxx and tried them on my summit and I noticed it being a lot less stable. So that is definatly your problem.

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    What rims would the trenchers fit on that have a good offset?

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    you want widened wheels

    http://www.axialracing.com/products/ax8017

    lower the body, and set the pushrods on the outer hole of the control arms.

    That's how you set it up for turning.
    Last edited by satyrisci; 01-07-2013 at 06:45 PM.
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    So I got my mashers. Man this thing does not want to flip over when turning anymore! Its nice not having to go to a walking pace to turn.

    Also put on a 58 spur, feels like i can control it better then with the 18/68 combo i was running before. Shouldnt the 58 be faster? Doesnt feel like it because its soo controllable!

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    58 spur is faster than stock.... if you had stock tires. With the shorter Mashers you might be going about the same speed.
    Mashers don't have as much side bite as stock... that and the lower ride height will give better handling.

    Here is a speed calculator.
    Whatever it is I just said... I could be wrong.

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