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    TOP Upgrades for Summit VXL

    Hi Everyone,

    I have just got one of these awesome little machines, but I want to get some upgrades for it.

    What are the TOP upgrades (money is not a problem) that you would recommend I get? I am a basher only. so racing performace is a non-issue

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    I've done the following to mine and it has been holding up to bashing and jumping very well:

    -rear chassis brace.
    -RPM arms (I wait till the stock ones break then upgrade to RPM)
    -Fan for ESC and heat sink for motor. This has reduced my temps.
    -Changed stock pinion to 19t so it would give me higher top speed.
    -2 2s lipos in parallel
    -Merv Rockers, this made my summit more stable and less prone to flip over when turning fast
    -Upgraded steering servo once the stock one broke.
    -Shimmed both Diffs

    Hope this helps...

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    got a link to the MERV rockers?. The flip-over issue is a big one on this ride, so anything to help with that is a first!

    This looks pretty sweet!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Traxxas-Mini...item2575f5d15a

    Being a noob, what would putting a full aluminum chassis actually do to the car?
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    Raise heat
    Decrease speed
    Increase possibility of breakage
    Force you to buy new batteries - The Integy battery slots are smaller than stock.
    Whatever it is I just said... I could be wrong.

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    If you're trying to reduce the amount of travel of the Summit and make it more like the Revo or Slash, you could add a spacer under the shock piston to reduce the extension of the shock and spring, keeping the CG lower.

    The Summit comes with 60Wt shock oil, so if you want something that reacts more quickly you could change it to 40Wt for example.

    You could also get adjustable push rods and fine tune your ride height in combination with the amount of articulation/suspension movement.

    However, for the terrain we bash on, we like the longer suspension travel of the Summit and have gone to the purple marked springs for the rear, set them stiffer and 100 weight oil in the rear shocks. This keeps the truck from looking like a boat with it's nose in the air and helps transfer more weight to the front so turning is better while keeping the rear from dragging on the ground over rough terrain. We also drastically change over the set up depending on what we're doing with the truck. One key item we want to do is to add Exotek big bore shocks and see how they work, some here really like them. Good axle carriers are a must, we are experimenting with RPM in the rear and the Traxxas teflon coated screws(7033X, I think) for the balls in the front. Since unintended sluggish and loose suspension movement is not good, we've also started using metal balls for the pivot points, ball bearings for the rockers and steering horn and started shimming the A-arms at the bulkheads. Please note that the RPM rear A-Arms for the Revo are not dimensionally like the Summit rear A-Arms, they provide a shorter wheel base and narrower track.

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    Thanks for the reply guys,

    Its interesting to hear the stock battery will not fit in the Aluminum chassis. Im a geek for BLING, so being the care-free person I am, I am going to completely BLING out my Summit with all aluminum parts!

    Integy are gunna love me LOL

    If anyone is feeling bored and generous, can you look over this list and see if I have doubled up on anything, or got something that wont work on the Summit?

    Chassis:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8803
    Stage 1 Conversion:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8465
    Stage 2 Conversion:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8639
    Motor Mount:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7511
    Gearbox:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7609
    Shock Mounts:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7382
    Rear Body Mount:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7863
    Front Body Mount:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7729
    Front Bulkhead:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8597
    Rear Bulkhead:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8536
    Receiver box:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=7563
    PiggyBack Shocks:
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p_prodid=8081
    Only $631.83 LOL
    Last edited by dickisnonjames; 10-02-2012 at 08:18 PM.

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    The Rear A-Arms are not correct for a Summit, but are Revo Summit rear A Arms provide for a longer wheel base and wider rear track. I have heard that Integy products have widely varying quality. I just ordered some Integy push rods/tie rods to check them out. I didn't look at the whole list. BTW, I prefer the Hot Racing bulkheads since they have two screws to hold them together and seem to be better quality. It will be a bling ride for sure. Just don't hit anything.

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    Man that thing will look really cool, but it will be heavy. Are you gonna drive it on regular basis, or only once in awhile and mostly show it off. You will have to post some pics when you get it done.
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    The aluminum chassis might fit stock NiMh... but they will not fit most of the LiPo's out there specifically made for this platform.

    The difference in track width is only 2.5mm per side... something that can be regained using the pillow balls.
    Whatever it is I just said... I could be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westoakmech View Post
    Man that thing will look really cool, but it will be heavy. Are you gonna drive it on regular basis, or only once in awhile and mostly show it off. You will have to post some pics when you get it done.
    It'll mostly be a show off truck, especially when all the parts are in

    Quote Originally Posted by RCinSC View Post
    The Rear A-Arms are not correct for a Summit, but are Revo Summit rear A Arms provide for a longer wheel base and wider rear track. I have heard that Integy products have widely varying quality. I just ordered some Integy push rods/tie rods to check them out. I didn't look at the whole list. BTW, I prefer the Hot Racing bulkheads since they have two screws to hold them together and seem to be better quality. It will be a bling ride for sure. Just don't hit anything.
    Thanks for the pickup on the A-Arms. It seems they dont make a stage 1 conversion kit for the summit. Are the front A-Arms different on the Summit too? Trying to decide if I just order the conversion kit, and then manually order the read a-arms for the summit :
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p...7#.UGzxT1EQZfo
    http://www.integy.com/st_prod.html?p...7#.UGzxUFEQZfo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmie Neutron View Post
    The aluminum chassis might fit stock NiMh... but they will not fit most of the LiPo's out there specifically made for this platform.

    The difference in track width is only 2.5mm per side... something that can be regained using the pillow balls.
    I am only going to use the stock nimh batteries, I have 2 and that gives me enough play time!
    Last edited by dickisnonjames; 10-03-2012 at 09:33 PM.

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    Front A-Arms are the same. BTW, you can screw the pillow balls out of the Summit rear A arms and get .400 or more of extra track width, to me that starts to matter as does a longer wheel base for good higher speed handling.

    Also, I put a set of integy push and tie rods on my new Slash last night. I had to file down some width of the balls, no big deal. But, for the front ball stud that fits the tie rods to the servo saver, it still isn't right. I am looking at re-threading(tappping) a Traxxas rod end and putting that on the integy rod. The problem is that the Traxxax ball stud is too tight in the integy rod end, which puts extra load on the servo and slows down the suspension movement. If that doesn't work, I'll buy the Traxxas tie rods.

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    Keep up with the times. JK. I'm 36 the new bling is carbon fibre n they make those too get that black most everything out with a satin finish and some triple chrome work done an a few distinct parts. Just my 2cents. Then get a nue motor to push it black motor triple chrome mount on a carbon fiber chassis triple chrome arms black knuckles. Mmmmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrmerv76 View Post
    Keep up with the times. JK. I'm 36 the new bling is carbon fibre n they make those too get that black most everything out with a satin finish and some triple chrome work done an a few distinct parts. Just my 2cents. Then get a nue motor to push it black motor triple chrome mount on a carbon fiber chassis triple chrome arms black knuckles. Mmmmm.
    Have you ever wrecked a carbon fiber version? How did it hold up?

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    No never owned one but we were talking bling. I've heard mixed things. The plastic is almost as light can be dyed black n cost $12 not $100. If it was tubular cf dry not wet it would be nearly indestructible but this is plate mat n wet method. Not nearly as good.
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    It would be interesting to know the weight difference. I like cf, HR has cf rocker plates(or so it seems?) But cf can shatter. I like the chrome/black look too, especially vs plastic. What we could use too is a light weight battery. I put 2 in series in my new Slash last night and had almost no suspension travel left. Mods are on the way. Overall I was not real happy with the Slash out of the box, but it was fast on the street.

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    Further update on the Slash upgrades from Integy. All broke, except for the ones where I used Traxxas ends which I drilled and tapped. It is obvious that the Traxxas ends are much stronger and reinforced.

    Blew out my first axle drive shaft tonight, it was on the Slash.

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    ok, so no Integy push/tie rods then LOL

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