I think i'm getting a SUMMIT soon :)

[humayrayakongkinaon]

hi guys, i'd decided to join the club, lol. I traded my ERBE roller for a summit roller minus the body, servos and RX/TX.
my Q's is, is it possible to use my VXL3s ESC to power up a MAKITA 14.4v brushed motor? can it handle the weight of the truck? will it stress the ESC? i know everyone recommend the DeWalt motor but i thought i try something different. i tried to hook up the motor to the esc last night and it seem to be working good. anyway heres the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjUVA...&feature=g-upl

[stickychinsac]

i would say most run 4s to the dewalt, vxl barely likes 3s

[upbasher]

You can run it with the vxl 3s but the motor will be weak because the most I would use with that setup would be a 2s lipo.

[Mayberry Kid]

What are the dimensions on the Makita like? I tried a motor out of an old Porter Cable 14.4 cordless. It would not line up even close

Good luck!

The Kid

[stickychinsac]

I really think the motor would overheat the esc, it wants more than the esc can handle

[humayrayakongkinaon]

What are the dimensions on the Makita like? I tried a motor out of an old Porter Cable 14.4 cordless. It would not line up even close

Good luck!

The Kid

i believe its the same size as the 775. take a look

[humayrayakongkinaon]

I really think the motor would overheat the esc, it wants more than the esc can handle

so i'm better off getting the summit ESC evx-2?

[Wolfslash16]

Has anyone tried the new brushless dewalt drill motors? Wouldn't that give you more power?

[happymachinist]

That motor looks remarkably close to the Titan 775. If the holes line up I'd say give it a whirl. (or if you can modify the moor mount I fit) The esc might be a little on the small side.


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[ksb51rl]

What are the dimensions on the Makita like? I tried a motor out of an old Porter Cable 14.4 cordless. It would not line up even close

Good luck!

The Kid

Makita has used 775 motors for a while in some of their drills. The first motor I powered "in anger" in my Summit was a 12V Makita RS-775VF and it came out of a drill older than most of these forums' constituents. That said, it smoked a bit rather quickly and the stock motor which I had pulled immediately upon receiving the Summit (figured I'd run the Makita into the ground first) went back in. You'd be hard-pressed to tell the difference between the two motors.

@humayrayakongkinaon: The "problem" with the Makita motors I have seen is that like the Titan 775 but unlike the Dewalt series, they are not rebuildable, meaning you cannot replace the brushes or the bushings. (Dewalts have replaceable bearings.) Then again, if motors are lasting a year or even two or more, I'm not sure how much durability should factor into the equation.

FWIW, this is the Makita version of a rebuildable 14.4V motor. Looks like it may be a direct drop-in.
Check the price.

Dewalt version, same retailer.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

i have a old dewalt drill also and i took the motor out and found out that the mounting screw are completely different, it has 4 screws just at the tip of the motor can. i'll post a pic of it after i take it apart again, lol.

[ksb51rl]

i have a old dewalt drill also and i took the motor out and found out that the mounting screw are completely different, it has 4 screws just at the tip of the motor can. i'll post a pic of it after i take it apart again, lol.

It looked something like this old-style motor?

[humayrayakongkinaon]

yes thats the one, lol. there is no way to mount that.

wow i did'nt know the makita is that expensive but the dewalt looks much more durable and cheap.

[MandM tug-o-war]

Has anyone tried the new brushless dewalt drill motors? Wouldn't that give you more power?

I've tried them but I won't be much help because they are in my drills which do have plenty of power.

[Restlessrustler]

i got a stock esc and motor from my summit, if you wanna trade id be interested....im looking for a vxl3s and motor for my girls 1/16 car to make another big block...

[humayrayakongkinaon]

i got a stock esc and motor from my summit, if you wanna trade id be interested....im looking for a vxl3s and motor for my girls 1/16 car to make another big block...

sure, i'll PM you for more info.
your inbox is full.

[woog421]

Id go Tekin RX8 if your thinking about brushless. Just my $0.02worth.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

i'd like to keep this brushed. this will be my basher. i have my other build at the brushless forum. tekin are great, dont get me wrong but, its out of my budget for now .

Id go Tekin RX8 if your thinking about brushless. Just my $0.02worth.

[woog421]

Tekin RX8 ESC can run brushed and brushless systems. I picked up a RX8 ESC for $175 shipped off eBay. Again just my $0.02.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

yeah i know it can run either both brush or brushless but its way out of my budget for now. if i want later to change this into a sensored brushless i might consider getting this http://www.rcecho.com/HOBBYWING-XERU...mbo-ME231.html

Tekin RX8 ESC can run brushed and brushless systems. I picked up a RX8 ESC for $175 shipped off eBay. Again just my $0.02.

[woog421]

That setup should work well. And I think it will install with no mods.

[ksb51rl]

...wow i did'nt know the makita is that expensive but the dewalt looks much more durable and cheap.

You'd have to hit the Dewalt with a sledgehammer to dent the can.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

is that why some of their power drill is also called a hammer? LOL.

You'd have to hit the Dewalt with a sledgehammer to dent the can.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

little update:
i checked the tracking # just to see where its at and it says its been dispatch to sorting facility at Bronx, NY and expected delivery day by Monday 8/13. i guess i have few day to wait till i can mess with it, but for the time being, i porposely pick this week to take a vacation for my son's b-day, we are going to take him to sea world san diego, so i dont mind waiting for few days.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

finally it showed up in the mail today and very happy and the same time not thrilled. here are some of the picture i took out of the box.
it is a summit alright





and here are some for you guys to figure out whats wrong with this pictures

[humayrayakongkinaon]

whats worst about my summit are the tires, it looks like its been glued by 5 yrs old kid, LOL. take a look.





you guys got any tips on how i can fix this, they appears to be brand new, its just not glued right.

[krallopian]

Holy CRAP what a horrible job of gluing!! I'm sorry to see that's what you ended up with. I'd be so irate if I were you.

As far as fixing the glue job, look up on this forum and youtube "how to remove RC tires from wheels" and there are a few tricks out there, pick whichever one works best for you.

[ksb51rl]

I would not be a happy consumer at all. Are those wheels as far out of round as they look? If so they may not be salvageable. It seems you took one on the chin.

[jamann]

It looks to me like the glue let go and it spit the bead not a huge issue if that is all it is.


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[humayrayakongkinaon]

i dont know what he did or how he glued this tires but the lip are not in properly in the bead and some area are not in at all then glued it. i boiled it and manage to get the tires off the rims but my chromes are dull looking now, lol. its ok i'll just paint it black

[happymachinist]

If your gonna paint them black just get a can of easy off oven cleaner and remove the chrome. The plastic underneath is smooth and glossy, plus you won't have to worry about paint chipping.


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[humayrayakongkinaon]

thanks happymachinist, i'll give it a try.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

Ok, i followed what happymachinist suggested, and it turns out great!!! i also glued the tires in with gorrila tape inside. what a difference from (picture above) to how it is now, here it is.



some of the glue are still wet, hahahaha.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

i test run the wheels/tires today with my REVO-E and it hold very well. from now on no more buying preglued tires for me

[ksb51rl]

Nice job. I am glad you got 'er done.
I have never taped tires for my Summit since I prefer them to be as pliable as possible and because neither the Titan 775 nor the Dewalt is a speed demon. If I were to go BL in my Summit, I'd have to reconsider.

[krallopian]

Great job indeed! Sucks that the glue residue is still on the tires, but certainly a great fix indeed!

How long did you let the oven cleaner sit on the wheels for? I'm going to do this myself, but I haven't been to the store in ages looking for oven cleaner haha. Seeing how clean those wheels came out has finally pushed me over the edge, I'm doing it!

[humayrayakongkinaon]

i'd be happy if mine can get up to 35ish lol. i dont know why i consider taping it when i'm not realy going to use this for speed run, but something was telling me to go ahead and try it anyway, its my first time taping tires and it turns out great!!!!

[humayrayakongkinaon]

Great job indeed! Sucks that the glue residue is still on the tires, but certainly a great fix indeed!

How long did you let the oven cleaner sit on the wheels for? I'm going to do this myself, but I haven't been to the store in ages looking for oven cleaner haha. Seeing how clean those wheels came out has finally pushed me over the edge, I'm doing it!

i spray it mutiple times let it set for 15 mins, rinse it off then spray again. i use a whole can of spray.

[humayrayakongkinaon]

got the rest of the parts in the mail today and I did'nt waste time, i put it all together. all i need are the micro servos, transmitter (4 channel 2.4 ghz Radio), and body shell. i'll geared it 11t/68t to see how the Motor/ESC temp goes.

[mike-susieq1]

looking good there, i like the way the wheels came out with the over cleaner, nice trick there. makita drill motors are pricey dang. almost as much as the drill its self.