New Tekin Pro2!

[DiggerPede]

But that's enough about that. When's the castle vs tekin shoot out taking place? I want in!

Ha!! Me too!! Castle is very known for their efficiency. If they would only offer a sensored motor. They have an ESC ready for it. Or at least one i know of, the black labeled MMP that LooT is running. But then again their are positives and negatives about running a sensored motor. I havent run one, but maybe one of these day I'll talk myself into one.

Definitely a good point there.

[AbSoLooT1]

I love Bigsquidrc for their honest reviews. If they don't like it they will tell you, unlike magazine reviews.

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i agree with Baldy my friend, If anything they aren't honest at all. I think they leave out the bads, ALOT cuz the stuff they test out are for sure supplied to them by manufacters, and they always pretty much have nothing say but good things. They always give like 9.0-9.5s outta 10 for everything, and that is just straight not possible.

I do like them as a source of news, if anything they are a first for alot of stuff, and make me look like im in the know how lol

[O.G.]

i agree with Baldy my friend, If anything they aren't honest at all. I think they leave out the bads, ALOT cuz the stuff they test out are for sure supplied to them by manufacters, and they always pretty much have nothing say but good things. They always give like 9.0-9.5s outta 10 for everything, and that is just straight not possible.

I do like them as a source of news, if anything they are a first for alot of stuff, and make me look like im in the know how lol

What is the pink review mentioned earlier? I'd like to check it out.

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[Oaks]

Lol, pinks is an old reality tv drag racing show where a crew would visit a town, hold a qualifying session out of a boatload of street rods and pick a bracket class of 16 cars. Winner takes 10000. No compromises in the shootout. It was reference to the biased reviews from bigsquid.

We need to figure out a way to do a community video shoot out.

[O.G.]

Well I couldn't find it on Google so I asked. I bought a viper esc/motor combo for my Rusty based on a squidrc review so I hope I'm not disappointed.

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[showtime90]

Just a couple things to add not that I would recommend it but the vxl 3s esc does have a sensor wore port to Ron sensored motors but more than likely temps will still be an issue among the other faulty issues of the esc. Also I currently race and bash with a sc4x with an rx8 esc and my temps never get hotter than 120 and that's 2s and 3s the power is amazing. I also have the power curve set very aggressive too. I am geared plenty tall too for our track. As for the pro4 motor I believe it's a great motor but my friend has temp cut offs all the time on his sc10 4x4 on the same race course. I am sure there could be other underlying issues but either motor works with the rx8.

[slash116vxl]

There's some good info in the thread. Those new motors look promising.

One of the odd things about this forum is there seems to be a bias to castle systems. If someone's running an aftermarket brushless system on here, I bet you it will be Castle, I reckon that over 90% of the systems are.

It's just a little odd how know seems to be running anything else here really, I thought non-one ran Tekin. It's good you've all come out the closet! Good stuff.

[thedreadedend]

For me, it was a no-brainer, but now that a couple of my warrantied esc's have been denied, im out! I understand the process, rules, and how im as equal as the next customer so its not personal but, I have proven to them(castle), that I have $1500+ of their stuff. To me, that deserves a phone call, a personal call from a higher up to say, "hey, I see you have many parts made by us." " we feel we can't offer the standard warranty in this matter because......" follow it up with a better offer than the standard credit for a one time buyer. Something that shows that continued business is rewarded and especially in this kind of case that I beat my trucks hard. This could even help them by looking at what is failing in my basher esc. I do feel at this point, that I'm missing out on other opportunities with other manufacturers so, its time to explore. Its time for some more discovery! The only down side is the "hard money" that goes with it.

[DiggerPede]

There's some good info in the thread. Those new motors look promising.

One of the odd things about this forum is there seems to be a bias to castle systems. If someone's running an aftermarket brushless system on here, I bet you it will be Castle, I reckon that over 90% of the systems are.

It's just a little odd how know seems to be running anything else here really, I thought non-one ran Tekin. It's good you've all come out the closet! Good stuff.

Haha!!! Funny thing. Check out my sig. I've had good luck with them. I run others to, I plan on trying Tekin sometime.

[O.G.]

One of the odd things about this forum is there seems to be a bias to castle systems. If someone's running an aftermarket brushless system on here, I bet you it will be Castle, I reckon that over 90% of the systems are.

It's just a little odd how know seems to be running anything else here really, I thought non-one ran Tekin. It's good you've all come out the closet! Good stuff.

I'm one of those who run Castle and it's because I bought a used Slash with an older sidewinder/4600kv system in it and liked how it performed. It was used when I bought it 2 years ago and I've been running it on and off with no problems, so it is no less than 4 years old. So the next esc I bought was a MMP, then another MMP, then the newer SC sidewinder/3800 system. Although I have no reason to change, I just bought a Viper esc/4500kv setup just for a Rusty build I've started.

I've always thought of Tekin as expensive and exotic and didn't want to mess with it. Maybe if I get really serious about racing I'll think about buying one.

[BaldyDaniels]

Ha!! Me too!! Castle is very known for their efficiency. If they would only offer a sensored motor. They have an ESC ready for it. Or at least one i know of, the black labeled MMP that LooT is running. But then again their are positives and negatives about running a sensored motor. I havent run one, but maybe one of these day I'll talk myself into one.*

Definitely a good point there.

This is where, a good while back, Tekin took running sensored motors to the next level. Running sensored is known to yield best results at lower speeds and can cause inefficiencies at higher speeds. Tekin resolved these inefficiencies with their "dual drive" setup for their esc's, which runs the motor sensored while at low speeds, then switches to non sensored mode at higher speeds to give max efficiency and power at any speed.*

Castle just recently came out with their smartsense Technology for the new mmp (black label) and acted like it was their brilliant idea that nobody else thought Of before, yet they don't even offer a sensored motor of their own. The smartsense tech does the exact same thing that tekin has been doing for a long time. Kudos to castle for finally catching up, but IMO, it's a little ignorant on their part to try and fool consumers into thinking that they're the first ones to come up with this tech with statements like this on their site:

"Castle Builds A Sensorless Controller?
Hey, we’re never going to just go with the flow, so we’ve built the best of both worlds into the new controller.*
SmartSense uses the motor sensors to start the motor and then it switches over to Castle’s ultra powerful and efficient dynamic sensorless mode which boosts motor efficiency. Simply put, you’ll get more power and less heat from your motor."

Sorry to all you castle fans out there, but really? "Never going to just go with the flow??" First you gotta stop riding in Tekin's wake!  They just produced a sensored motor capable esc to run sensored motors that they themselves don't offer. So if making an esc to run other manufacturers sensored motors isn't going with the flow, I don't know what is. *Wow! How out of the ordinary to make an esc that does the same thing that other brands of escs can already do, only difference is that those other brands offer matching motors! Lol

Don't get me wrong, castle makes a good product, just not the best one out there, but for a good while, it was the best one out there at an affordable price. The reason castle became so well known was first due to their sidewinder system, and a lot had to do with teaming up with Traxxas, hpi and a great deal of other manufacturers. I think that in cases like dreads, where his large contribution to their profit margin has simply been taken for granted, is due to castle becoming to big for their britches. Spreading themselves too thin is starting to reflect in their product and especially their customer service, but their expansion into other manufacturer's product lines has netted them so much revenue, our contributions to their bottom line are now being treated as insignificant.*

As this hobby is growing in popularity again at an extremely fast pace, it seems budget is also becoming less of an issue for hobbyists. I've never seen so many tricked out, hopped up, and bulletproof setups in one place, and this is where Tekin comes in. A brushless system that previously seemed out of range for the average enthusiast, is now becoming the norm for many of us as we search for a balance of performance, quality and above all, reliability. If that means out with castle and in with tekin, so be it.*

*I'm not in this to stay faithful to a manufacturer, unless that manufacturer can provide me the means to reliably enjoy my hobby with as little hassle as possible. Traxxas gave us the P2de, many other manufacturers helped us make it bulletproof, and honestly I could care less who makes my electronics, or how much it costs, as long as it reliably does what it claims it can....when I need it to....every time. Just my 2.

[DiggerPede]

^^^ I'm all for ya man and totally understand. I may seem one branded and probably am, but don't mean to sound that way. I've had very good luck with them so far, so i'm going to recommend what has been great to me. If I ever recommend them and/or Traxxas VXL I always state those and then say others will note their good setups. One thing you will find out about me i'm not going to downgrade anyone for what they like and run. Everyone has different budgets and trucks, so to each their own. I'm so open to try something else out. On my current Sl4sh build i just didnt see spending a couple of hundred more dollars to start a new setup, when that amount could be used to beef it up. Believe me i'm going to try a Tekin combo in the future. Is there a better setup oh i'm sure you talk to the Tekin guys they will say theirs, Novak- well them to, Castle--- yep yep. LOL

It's all good Baldy. I know you mean well, and if anyone has tried somthing and put its through its paces you are the man. So is dread. I hate to see how the past couple of companys have treated him. It's funny how you start messing with someones pocket money how that builds a wall. On both ends, the consumer and the company.

As we all know it their are going to be lemons in each product. That leaves a bad taste in a lot of customers. Hopefully those can get resolved at the end. Anytime a company grows and they don't provide the service for the demand that drops the faith in the company in the end. Believe me i had to wait nearly 2 months for my MM to get back to me. ughhh...

Like you posted about Castle and them being the first to do that with a controller. I don't think they are the only ones that advertise or falsely advertise information like that. Everyone wants to be the first with technology. LOL As long as a consumer reads and believes that THEY'VE WON.

A good consumer like you reads up on stuff really well. I like how you bring stuff to the plate and share it with us.

I totally agree with you

*I'm not in this to stay faithful to a manufacturer, unless that manufacturer can provide me the means to reliably enjoy my hobby with as little hassle as possible. Traxxas gave us the P2de, many other manufacturers helped us make it bulletproof, and honestly I could care less who makes my electronics, or how much it costs, as long as it reliably does what it claims it can....when I need it to....every time

[AbSoLooT1]

Extremly well spoken Baldy.