Curb 1, Stampede 0 Mass Carnage!

[AbSoLooT1]

lol, Okay so had to share the carnage.... I lost concentration on bashing, ten minutes in to first pack (with 3 full charged in my pack ready to go) and unfortunatly I was tryin to do some crazy turn past a curb, and it was a mix of break in concetration, and loss of traction that lead to this... Estimate... 70 dollar damage. lol.

Im totally changing to RPM front bumper. Also, this was in part due to the RPM front skid plate. Partially my fault, and partially its. Heres why. Were in not for it, the chassis would have survived. Also, for it to properly do its job, u need to put lock nuts on the 3x12 bolts, one has to screw in to the chassis. I was doing this on the left side, but the right side needed to have that on/off switch mount, dremeled to have room to do so. I had started to use that lock nut, but adding and removing my servos when getting things right, I started to slack on that, and put that on my to do list. I also had been making sure to use the 5 the screw,and that led to the destruciton of the chassis... Ul see why Also, the skid plate on the front, (and rear) has its little notches for support on frontal impact. Using a RPM front skid, thats no longer available since its longer. Because of that, it also didnt have that extra bit of support... Which lead to my bulkhead moving back to far, and SNAP! But above all else.... It was the curb!

But here it is!


Heres what I mean, on that RPMS 5th screw and its cost of not takeing the EXTRA steps to reall support it.





*btw... U can totally see the fibers in the plastic in the Traxxas chassis. Pretty cool

[AbSoLooT1]

Also, I finally figured out (if u remember my last post) How a Kimborough servo saver is suppose to work! lol.... Check it out. Its suppose to snap into all heck instead of the servo! nice (fortunatly the inner workings of the servo survived)

And Busted protrac front shock tower in TWO places.




you can DEFINATLY tell things shifted back, and didn't have the proper front latteral support. Thats why I cant stress enough about bracing the RPM front skid plate if ur going to use it. As u saw, that 5th screw is not enough to make up for those. Make sure u use the Lock nuts where needed, and some extra support, like an extra cap screw in place of where that plastic support (thats there for the front stock size skid) would be, would help.. Because iwthout it... It popped these, and stripped the threads out of them (since there wasnt much to begin with)




Two worst ones. Break in the new servos case.. (which can still hold fine...but still) and the break in the Bulkheads screw. Let me say this, ive been VERY happy with the RCscewz, and their strength. BUT.... right before driving, I had the though of replacing these, since they are in such a high pressure area. Going with some Tony screws on these spots. Than this happened. lol. Ive already tried to take out a screw of a bulkhead, and its NOT fun at all.. lol. Well see how this one goes. i got anouther one in the mean time until I figure this one out. Also, the Case is on order till probably end of this week (hopefully) Sure glad they sell servo parts too... lol.




The Lock nut im talking about is the one right next to the ESC/Battery plug.... U can see it in there. its a pain to add and remove all the time, but after this collision, trust me... its worth it! Also make sure to remove the power switch mount on the chassis on the other side, and do the same thing...



But last but not least....... This impact was SO strong.. It was enough to rip this servo tape in half! And this is no easy feet... When I take things off the servo tape, with this much of it manually, its NOT easy.. The forces to do this, were pretty wild...






** At least this gave me a chance to work on my ladies truck, and the workspace ive been "putting off" cuz im always driving when its not windy (only chance to paint the pegboards needed) So this way it can get done. I dont mind as much the cost of parts, and I sure know some weak points now Its the waiting for the needed parts to be shipped that sucks. lol...

[Petertje60]

So sorry to see that damage, my friend. That must have hurt to see all that damage considering the work and care you put in it. How fast were you going?

[DiggerPede]

LooT buddy no kinky drinky on Sunday evenings while driving the Pede. LOL

You are going to have to pick up a HR servo mount brace now. It should work over that broken piece or be a nice upgrade if you buy a new case for the servo.

Good carnage damage there buddy & a reason for YOU buy more parts for the Pede!!!!

[mark c]

OUCH. Sorry to see that my man. Will be waiting to see what you come back with though. Keep us posted on that pedes revival.

[AbSoLooT1]

So sorry to see that damage, my friend. That must have hurt to see all that damage considering the work and care you put in it. How fast were you going?

it totally did. lol. The cost didnt bother me, but all the modding to the chassis. That parts I was like, oh man.... Running the servo wire, and the channel it takes, and mounting the NOS bottle, and getting the mounting holes right.... Fortunatly I finished that on the new chassis, along with my ladies on Saturaday night. I walked straight back from the crash, threw the truck in the car and took off to the hobby store before they closed lol.

Full throttle, and about 30mph...:s I know right. lol

LooT buddy no kinky drinky on Sunday evenings while driving the Pede. LOL

You are going to have to pick up a HR servo mount brace now. It should work over that broken piece or be a nice upgrade if you buy a new case for the servo.

Good carnage damage there buddy & a reason for YOU buy more parts for the Pede!!!!

Thanks brotha and ooh good advice. Im gonna check that out for sure. i think that was the issue though, it being held down. No energy transfer. It still is workable... Il see how long it takes for the new case to arrive. Its actually fine to drive the way it is, but unless shipping takes forever, I wont.. I dont want it to get there, and have to get in my servo again. I dont even like opening up the Traxxas water proof box very much. Reason I dont really use the Castle field link cuz of that haha.

OUCH. Sorry to see that my man. Will be waiting to see what you come back with though. Keep us posted on that pedes revival.

Thanks man Its gonna come back to pretty much exactly the same though I had just hit the level I wanted to with all the new pricey electronics, and changes I had just made the last 15 days. But il tell ya, I will be switching back to stock front skid though and see what else I can come up with. Than maybe one day il switch to a full proline skid set-up. well see though But I think the stock front skid, or stock "size' I should say, gives better support, unless proper steps are taken and then some.

[DiggerPede]

LooT you ever thought of using a CC Castle Link Quick Connect so you dont have to go into the Rx box. I was the same like you until i purchased one of these. You let the connector hang out or hide it somewhere for easy access.





This is the Hot Racing Servo Clamp Plate AXR24C01 that I ordered. I have a couple installed on the Servos on my rigs.

[JoesStampede]

Ouch, some pretty nasty damage there!! And no p2des and curbs dont really mix very well do they lol.

About the skid plate though. I hit a curb WOT not long ago, this was before my RPM skid plates, and snapped the chassis clean off at the servo hole, it also snapped the tabs off the front of the servo completely. This is what i was hoping to avoind by goin the RPM way with the plates, and after seeing your damage im not sure, both seem to have produced as mich damage as the other - replacement chassis and some servo work to be done. So i dunno, im not to sure that havin the stock skid plate on would have helped you at all, i think it would have ended up clean snapping the chassis instead. Thing is im not to keen to go head to head with a curb just to check though...

And about the locking nuts for the last two screws on the skid: i dont use locking just standard nuts and have mine on the underside, it makes it really simple to pop off those off in a hurry as the wheel nut tool can be used on the nuts i have there and because they are at the bottom they are easily accessible. I dont have a switch at the moment - VXL still in mine - but homestly id mount the switch elsewhere and attach the last screw, it could have made all the difference!

Hope you get back up and running soon!!

[rag6]

That ft skid did actually save the very front of the chassis. If you take that same hit with the stock ft skid, the front 2" of the chassi will explode into about 5 pieces. You also prob would have not blew up the servo saver. The servo ears still break though. Maybe toughening up the ft skid actually cost you more money during the crash... Believe me it still would have broken, but may have done less damage.

When I saw the servo saver I thought "BOING!"

[AbSoLooT1]

Nice digg! Im for sure gonna jump all over that Castle quick link. Thats sick. That will make it one more thing I can do on the field, and can throw in my lil basher bag that fits just right.. Great advice

Ouch, some pretty nasty damage there!! And no p2des and curbs dont really mix very well do they lol.

About the skid plate though. I hit a curb WOT not long ago, this was before my RPM skid plates, and snapped the chassis clean off at the servo hole, it also snapped the tabs off the front of the servo completely. This is what i was hoping to avoind by goin the RPM way with the plates, and after seeing your damage im not sure, both seem to have produced as mich damage as the other - replacement chassis and some servo work to be done. So i dunno, im not to sure that havin the stock skid plate on would have helped you at all, i think it would have ended up clean snapping the chassis instead. Thing is im not to keen to go head to head with a curb just to check though...

And about the locking nuts for the last two screws on the skid: i dont use locking just standard nuts and have mine on the underside, it makes it really simple to pop off those off in a hurry as the wheel nut tool can be used on the nuts i have there and because they are at the bottom they are easily accessible. I dont have a switch at the moment - VXL still in mine - but homestly id mount the switch elsewhere and attach the last screw, it could have made all the difference!

Hope you get back up and running soon!!

ya totally... Ur absolutly right, and great advice. I dont know why I didnt think of that. lol. The only other thing im not a fan of about the RPM skid, is the fact I cant always check my servo saver to make sure its dead centered. But thats all good. Im definaty gonna do somethings a bit different, and go that extra mile this time...

That ft skid did actually save the very front of the chassis. If you take that same hit with the stock ft skid, the front 2" of the chassi will explode into about 5 pieces. You also prob would have not blew up the servo saver. The servo ears still break though. Maybe toughening up the ft skid actually cost you more money during the crash... Believe me it still would have broken, but may have done less damage.

When I saw the servo saver I thought "BOING!"

Ya, Thats why I wasnt so quick to blame it. But... Thing that I am not so sure about the RPM skid, was how flexible it is, back to back. Also, it doesnt have the lil plastic supports the stock skids do. But thats not its fault also. Thats circumstancial. Also, im sure if I had the lock nuts, AND stronger screws in the bulkhead, the damage would have been different. But u can definatly tell, things shifted back hard causing as much damage to other things. I would have rather had a chassis snap in clean half. But if it was as much damage to do what it did to the servo tape, than my truck did a REALLY good job. No arm or wheel hardware damage, so thats good

[dcole592]

Sorry to see that. But I'm sure you'll have it back up and runnin in no time bro.

[rag6]

So you only had 1 of the 2 rear screws in the front skid? That surely has something to do with the damage?

[f687s]

you might have hit the curb wrong

[DiggerPede]

you might have hit the curb wrong

No way!! The curb came out and hit him!

[dcole592]

Somthin jumped up and bit me.They said that was a million dollar wound but I didn't see a nickel of that money.lol

[Oaks]

Dang Absoloot. Sorry to hear about/see the wreckage. At least all of the stuff is cosmetic and isn't too costly. Right now, my major paranoia involves wheelstands that wreck my motor/esc wires or something really messing up my motor can or worse, my esc going down. You'll have that bad boy back up and running in no time. The pic of the button head screw snapping off was the one that made me say 'ouch.' Thanks for sharing the pics tho. My carnage tab has been minimal (knock on wood). Hey, instead of knocking on wood, how about I run into the mailbox post instead?

[BigTigger]

No way!! The curb came out and hit him!

I agree!! lol

Ouchy, Sir!! Curbs and these vehicles don't mix well....At all!!
Seen it, repaired it more than I want too. LOL!!
As I told my son in-law; "These are tough vehicles but not bulletproof!" as he has done this issue, himself and is 'learning' still.

---BT

[AbSoLooT1]

So you only had 1 of the 2 rear screws in the front skid? That surely has something to do with the damage?

Oh no brotha. All "3" were in... The middle one that ripped out, and the other two were torn from their threads. One of them got lost some where on the road. lol. Thats what I meant by the lock nuts. since they dont "belong" there, they didnt have enough bite...

[AbSoLooT1]

you might have hit the curb wrong

lol.... Or.. I hit it at all! Remember... We are talking about WOT, and the Tekin Pro4 pushing it full on into the curb. Look at my speed control. It split a REALLY solid servo tape in two... Didnt come unglued... It fractored down the middle.

Besides, like Digger said, it came out at me!

Dang Absoloot. Sorry to hear about/see the wreckage. At least all of the stuff is cosmetic and isn't too costly. Right now, my major paranoia involves wheelstands that wreck my motor/esc wires or something really messing up my motor can or worse, my esc going down. You'll have that bad boy back up and running in no time. The pic of the button head screw snapping off was the one that made me say 'ouch.' Thanks for sharing the pics tho. My carnage tab has been minimal (knock on wood). Hey, instead of knocking on wood, how about I run into the mailbox post instead?

Thanks bro That made me laugh alot. lol.. Thats the Pede mans way of knockin on wood right? Knockin wood DOWN 93 times) lol. But dont dwell on that, Earlier that day I was thinkin of what would be strongest to replace those two screws, and later THAT day one broke... And this is not my first time tryin to get a busted bolt out of a bulkhead. I spent more money then, than buying a new one. This time il save it for when I can do it right, and replace it for the mean time. lol. It was totally my fault. total lack of concentration.

And thanks Dig and Bcole. Im just waitn on the last two parts to arrive this week. Was gona take the shock tower out of my ladies pede, but didnt want to do all that, and thought it would be a good excuse to work on my RC workspace. i had been puttig it off, cuz i was either working, bashing, or with the lady... *cough* lol. I got the chassis ready sunday night, got the pegboards painted for the workspace tonight, and tommorow they will go up on the wall, along with the shelves... Than my workspace will be complete.. MUWAHAHAHAH...*cough* I mean, yup.


The Moral support helps Now if only u guys would send the pede some "Get well Soon cards" lol

[AbSoLooT1]

Also forgot to mention btw... I got two fractors on my body, on either side of the front fenders...Funny, I told myself it was the last time I was gonna drive with the Raptor body, before I reinforced it with Shoe-goo and drywall tape. I been beating up bodies too fast. I dang near grinded the roof off one of them. Good times!

[Toyboarder]

Holy crap man, your servo saver espoloded! That's kind of weird because I missed a fence post by about a half an inch doing 35+ down my moms driveway Sunday, you must have taken the hit instead

At least we know it will be rebuilt stronger and better than ever...worst part is going to be re-dying the grays though.

[Petertje60]

Man, if non RC addicts read threads like this, they will laugh a lot. Shoe-goo??? For RC cars???
My buddy bought that a while ago. Awesome stuff. I got my damaged Raptor body back to useable with it.
Did I mention already that the roof of the car is meant to be on the upper side of the car?

One of the coolest things about you, is that you are such a detail freak when it comes to both looks and quality, but also just drive your cars like they have to be driven. You couldnt have said it better: Good times!

[rag6]

Shoo go for president!

[DiggerPede]

Shoe goo is th BoMb!!!!! I've went through a tube and halfway through the second. Stuff works wonders. Who would have ever thought that stuff would work so amazing. It definitely is the best body repair solution. If they were to ever pull that off the shelf I would........

[Raptorpede]

Hey Loot why not run the third screw I don't and that probably help because then it could flex away and not rip out piece of your chassis. Also have you ever have one of your rc screws crack at the head ? But that's some damage and must have been some crash to shift the esc mount screws like that and snap a screw in half. Go shoe goo. As for your front tower are you going to patch to so you can run your truck until a new one comes in ?

[AbSoLooT1]

Holy crap man, your servo saver espoloded! That's kind of weird because I missed a fence post by about a half an inch doing 35+ down my moms driveway Sunday, you must have taken the hit instead

At least we know it will be rebuilt stronger and better than ever...worst part is going to be re-dying the grays though.

I know right! lol. I did laugh out loud when it happened, threw it in the car,than saw the real damage, than the laughing was there so much. lol. But oh ya, dead straight into a curb! My wheels are still aligned

Man, if non RC addicts read threads like this, they will laugh a lot. Shoe-goo??? For RC cars???
My buddy bought that a while ago. Awesome stuff. I got my damaged Raptor body back to useable with it.
Did I mention already that the roof of the car is meant to be on the upper side of the car?

One of the coolest things about you, is that you are such a detail freak when it comes to both looks and quality, but also just drive your cars like they have to be driven. You couldnt have said it better: Good times!

Your so right. Heres the funny part. At my LHS, they sell shoe goo (the exact stuff) in a package, and.... They sell a "body repair tape" which looks like medical grade drywall tape. lol. Much more expensive for much less haha.

But thanks man Once time someone said, whats the point of such a nice truck, if its gonna sit on a shelf cuz its too nice. I lol'ed to that statement!

Shoe goo is th BoMb!!!!! I've went through a tube and halfway through the second. Stuff works wonders. Who would have ever thought that stuff would work so amazing. It definitely is the best body repair solution. If they were to ever pull that off the shelf I would........

ur so right bro. Me too! i got a tube, along with some Tape ready to go. Just spent all the time bashing, or sleeping "during my usual hobby built time) going to bed for the early 5am wake up... Its really killing it lol.

Hey Loot why not run the third screw I don't and that probably help because then it could flex away and not rip out piece of your chassis. Also have you ever have one of your rc screws crack at the head ? But that's some damage and must have been some crash to shift the esc mount screws like that and snap a screw in half. Go shoe goo. As for your front tower are you going to patch to so you can run your truck until a new one comes in ?

I thought of that, plus.... Its easier, and easier to do at first. But... I think its vital. I think without that in the middle, its too much flex, and id probably rather run the stock front skid if that were the case. Those are my thoughts anyways.

As for the RCscrewz, no never have. First one... But its not thier fault. Its not like they both brooke. Plus... I haves slightly bent two already. JUST in this location though. What people say about them being "weak" couldnt be farther from the truth. The strongest screw, they are not of course. but again. . just for this location. I will still continue to use them everwhere else, Its just at these locations, that I was considering screws before. But a perfect example, I have, in my tool box a STRC with its screw busted inside to. I imagine they are just as strong. I just want to get the "strongest" for this very vital location. Just two screws to hold the front end on, really isnt much. Plus they way the front end is desinged, all the lateral forces are going to the middle of that screw, Ideal to snap it in half.

I hope Tonys sells individual sizes. Il let ya know what I come up with...

Also, Im not... im gonna ride out the entire week (maybe) while waiting for the servo case. Even though.... The protrac tower is here tommorw. The Savox case will be here by friday (Most likely) I could have just taken the one of my ladies truck, and ran it the next day after I went and got a new chassis and bulkhead. But... Its given me a chance to do other stuff for the hobby that was getting put off. My workspace, building my ladies truck, and... I have two bodies, and a third one bound to arrive tommorow, that needs to be painted. This way I can catch up on other stuff.

[AbSoLooT1]

Boom... Solution.. Not messing around. VERY important area, so going full blown Solution. Should NEVER be breaking a screw on a bulkhead, and I will feel alot better about my front end, all together.

Lunsford 4 x 15 mm screw. Like 9 dollars for 4 of em, but hey... Titanium! and never more a broken screw! ( I hope)lol. now to just get em in! lol

[AbSoLooT1]

This is the pic of their 4x12mm ones, but im gonna put an order through the LHS, tommorow! ( no shipping Lunsford T4 Titanium screws. boo yaa.... Thats a solution!

[Oaks]

Nice choice, Absoloot. I'm probably going to look into some of their products myself, rear camber links.

And its nice to catch the silver lining, too. I don't have as much work to catch up on as you do but I find myself in the mood to clean the truck up when its down. 4 screws to detach the entire rear, 4 in the front, 5 if you use the rpm front skid plus a servo saver screw and now the front's off the truck. Unplug a few things and viola! Gotta love the pede

[Raptorpede]

@ AbSoLoot do you have the part number to those screws ?

[DiggerPede]

Lunsford 4x12 mm button head ( M4B0012 )

[AbSoLooT1]

Nice Digg. Sad news. Went to the LHS to order em (since they get lunsford products) And they cant get the screw... What id be accomplishing there, is 7 bucks off for no shipping. Which really to me in hobby money, is pennies. But...The mentality of paying 17 dollars (cost +shipping) for 4 screws, that I "may" not need, is a different story. It will however give me piece of mind, and guarentee that I never have what happened with my bulkhead happen again, But I dont really remember this being an issue with Traxxas screws..

One upside, is im pretty much close to out of things to mod on my truck. lol. So Its one more thing I 'can" do.

Has anyone broken a 4mm Traxxas screw in their bulkhead off like I did? Or know of anyone who has?


Added*
Wow... For 20 of these from Tonys screws, Its 3.50 lol. Bit of a difference. But then again, they arent titanium!!

[Petertje60]

I ran my Bandit into a wall one day and totally bent its STRC bumper which is quite strong, but never managed to break a 4mm screw.

[rag6]

Lunsford 4x12 mm button head ( M4B0012 )

$2.15 a piece? UGGH! That is too much! There has got to be a cheaper ti set avail...

I was looking at ti 3mm screws and found them at $0.40 a piece. Let me look around...

[DiggerPede]

Hey LooT I found your lady some Purple Anodized fasteners. LOL

[AbSoLooT1]

$2.15 a piece? UGGH! That is too much! There has got to be a cheaper ti set avail...

I was looking at ti 3mm screws and found them at $0.40 a piece. Let me look around...

I ended up using Traxxas ones for now... But I dont want to have that happen again. Its a 25 dollar hit everytime.

Digg. Those are WAY sick! Btw.. HR has some dope green ones, and I thought of u!

[AbSoLooT1]

But once I got my truck apart, I found this... BENT strc pin, and jacked up front tie bar... Oh ya !




new Parts....






Front end, and chassis put back together...





And then went out, and had a SICK bash session! It was too clean. lol.





And then......

[AbSoLooT1]

I was out yesterday (2nd day) 4th pack since breakage.... And this happened..... I mean, it was partially my fault, cuz I was tryin to hop up on a curb. But my old chassis took hits like this all day long in this same area. When I was installing it, I noticed the two screws were way to close to the outside. And I cut corners and probably didnt mate it as well as I should have since I was itching so badly to drive. lol. oh man....






So.... This was my 2nd chassis in one weeks time. And I had gotten lucky finding black ones. Somehow they always had just one... So this time. I was not messing around... Have 3 2wd pedes, so I asked to give me all they had!



But this was the cool part. These were all RIBLESS.... Sweet !





Now the work begins....Again... My wire clean up, means every new chassis requires about 45 minutes of dremeling before I can install... That part is not fun. Front end was much stronger, now to work on rear end..

I picked up a Chassis saver, but having to cut that back plate, is not ideal for me. Mostly because of the battery hitting on the lock nuts back there, and If I go the opposite way, whats to stop the battery, and things like that.... Still in the doubt. Definatly see what i can figure out about back there.


Digg, Ive seen a pic of yours. How did urs work out (slash chassis saver) For ya? U still using it?

Would love to see pics of what folks have done. Im strongly considering an alum chassis, but something tells me id bend it! lol

[Lilcrawler]

Nice carnage. Although you have nothing on the time my dad broke his clean in half

[DiggerPede]

I think we are going to have to send LooT do RC Driver's ED!! LOL This much carnage lately and his going to have to be emitted Glad to cya having fun bro. Obsessed with chassis much???