Just bought a green one

[pavmentsurfer]

The plan is to convert it to a brushed E-Revo that LOOKS like a summit for bashing purposes and sell everything that is summit specific that I don't need. Ive already ordered all the pushrods, shocks and other revo suspension parts.

Just thought id announce another summit sold. Even though it won't really STAY a summit for long.

[bentrocker]

Congrats , I really like those green ones.

[jamann]

Ahhhhh slipping to the dark side.... Better lock up your other one at night once it finds out his brother has been .......altered . It could get mean Lol


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[pavmentsurfer]

Hehe... altered. Sounds so devious.

[ksb51rl]

Did Tower confirm it's the new model? Just curious.

[jungletreker]

why not get an erevo and get a summit body & mounting posts?
otherwise you can keep the summit specifics as spares?

just curious thats all

edit: otherwise you can get a bushless erevo and put a summit body making everyone wonder how the summit is going faster than them!

[ksb51rl]

pav had a brushless E-Revo with an oversized Castle motor in it. It was a thing of beauty...but it just wasn't his cup 'o tea.
Summit over Revo: (even though the Summit is $75 more)
Tires
Body w/ Exocage
Driveshafts
Motor
Lights
Radio Tx (4-ch)

Edit: I forgot about the 2-speed transmission.

[pavmentsurfer]

Towers site NOW said TQI and LVD ESC in the description for the summit. So it IS the new model.

There are a number of reasons I chose to go this route VS buying an E-Revo to start. Heres my list of reasons... in no particular order. And, I'm only writing all this because I'm bored. Not because I'm so self absorbed to think everyone actually wants to hear it. Hehe.

-The difference in price between an E-Revo and a Summit is only $70. The summit comes with a TQI 5 Ch radio that sells for $100 on e-bay VS the 2.4 link radio in the E-Revo that sells for $50 or so. Since I don't need a radio and will be selling it anyway, ill make back $50 of the difference in price immediately.

-The E-Revo has a dual titan 550 setup whereas the Summit has a single 775 motor setup. I want to run a single motor which would have meant buying the single motor mount, plate and gear cover. This would have cost $25. So, that would have made the 2 trucks even in price after selling the radios.

-I want the truck to LOOK like a summit. This would have meant a body, exo cage and fenders, body mounts and front and rear bumpers. These items are FAR more costly than the E-Revos body and bumpers so to sell the E-Revo parts and buy summit parts is more expensive than starting with the summit parts. Even IF I wanted it to look like an E-Revo, it STILL would be cheaper to buy the summit and sell the summit parts then buy E-Revo parts... crazy how this works out isnt it.

-The summit has beefier driveshafts than the E-Revo... I want those. The E-Revo shafts are worth LESS than the summit shafts. So, same story as the body/bumpers. Cheaper to start with the summit parts.

-The summit has all the little servos and linkages that the E-Revo does not have. Since the prices have worked out to be almost identical after selling the radios and factoring in the motor mounts, anything I get for the small servos and linkages is actually SAVING me money VS buying the E-Revo.

-I have a 775 motor Im going to use in this truck thats already broken in but only has about 4 runs on it. Basically, broken in but still new. Which means I can sell the motor that comes in the new truck as a brand new motor. The 775 in new condition is worth WAY more than the 2 550's in the E-Revo... so again, money back on that one.

-There was no indication anywhere that the newest version of the E-Revo comes with the new LVD equipped EVX-2 ESC... the summit does for sure. So, again, I benefit there.

-The rest of my plan includes selling the summit bulkheads, diffs, pushrods, rockers and shocks and replacing them with ERBE parts (all of which I have already ordered). The summit parts should sell for about the same price as I paid for the ERBE parts... possible more since the summit diffs are more expensive... so perhaps I break even OR perhaps I get even more money back out that deal.

-Finally, I have a set of canyon AT's on Desperados Im going to put BACK on my real summit. This will leave my Trencher X's on desperadoes to run on the E-Revo truck. So, I can sell the brand new summit wheels/tires if I choose to. Im not %100 sure I want to do this. But I'm pretty sure the green summit wheels/tires are an easy sell in brand new condition. This isnt really a big factor as E-Revo wheels and tires also bring a good buck when you sell them. its just a point I felt like making.

At the end of the day, its actually cheaper to buy a summit and covert it DOWN to an E-Revo than it is to buy an E-Revo. Thats why I did it. I havent decided if I'm going to keep the 2 speed transmission yet. I think I might and run one gear for grass and one gear for dirt... it should hold up fine with the brushed system. If somewhere down the road I decide to go brushless ill just by a complete ERBE transmission on ebay and swap it out. Until then I'm sure the 2 speed will be fine.

This is how my brain works when buying/selling RC's. I can't just look at a truck, see the price and buy it. I have to know if there is a cheaper route to get where I want to go. Most often it saves me money and is fun doing the work. But sometimes it backfires and I end up spending more. In this case I'm %100 sure I will, at the very least, spend the SAME as buying an E-Revo... but I'm quite confident Ill have spent considerably less. Which means one of two things. Either the summit is a bargain or the E-Revo is over priced. IMO, its the first one.

[ksb51rl]

...and there you have two very different styles of writing...

[pavmentsurfer]

Hahah... I don't know KSB... some of your texts are like 3 pages long. Maybe you just hang back on here. I wonder if this will spark an increase in Summit sales? Right!!!

[rc driver dude]

Do you have any pics?

[pavmentsurfer]

I literally ordered it last night. No pics yet. It won't be here for AT LEAST 10 days. Then the fun will begin.

[jungletreker]

wow, looks like you've thought this through quite a bit.

I asked as I was also thinking of getting a brushed/brushless erevo to complement my Summit and collection but couldnt really justify the purchase to myself - it wouldnt go as fast as a brushless buggy and the ground clearance while good, I probably would run my summit in those places anyway, so maybe some nice lipos for my summit instead.....or maybe another summit to modify like pave above..... choices, choices...

btw some hobbyists are quite impressed with the Summit body detail and the exo cage and I do like the design.

[pavmentsurfer]

After running my summit I can't believe how tough the body is. Thats why I want to stick with it. This truck won't be bashed excessively hard. Thats what my little, cheap pede is for. But I want something to jump dirt piles and rip around terrain the pede can't navigate.

I just bought a Hitec 7955TG for the new truck... so I can now sell off the dual servos as well. Overall this thing is coming together as a really cheap roller. Hehe. Sweet.

[snowslider]

Pav, are you going to waterproof the servo? Just curios.

[pavmentsurfer]

No, I don't ever run in wet conditions. I don't like the clean up required afterwards so when its wet, I just stay in side and fix stuff.

Ive got a line on a great brushless setup that would either be great in this truck or my GTP2E... only 150 for an XErun 150amp/2200kv censored setup... its brand new. I just don't know if I want to go that route or not. I think I'm going to start parting out my ANZA truck so i can start paying for this thing. At least until the summit arrives and I can start selling off the parts I don't need. I figure, if I did go with a brushless setup I could put the LVD EVX2 in my summit and sell the ESC out of my summit along with the used 775 I have AND the new 775 that coming in the summit. That would be a good upgrade system overall and would probably get me MOST of the $150 I spent on the brushless setup back... Gotta decide asap before the system sells.

[maxi single]

No, I don't ever run in wet conditions. I don't like the clean up required afterwards so when its wet, I just stay in side and fix stuff.

same here, I just got my summit and there's lots of things to clean / tweak / fix / mod which I enjoy almost as much as driving, I wait until the grounds are dry before running

[pavmentsurfer]

Just sent the payment for the XErun 150amp ESC and 2000kv motor... $145 shipped with the program card. I think I may toss this system into my GTP2E seeing as how its censored... and put the MMM/2000kv system that in my GTP into the E-Revo... thus making it technically an ERBE of sorts. How did I get here... the plan was a cheap and simple brushed basher. Oh well...

I guess my Summit gets the LVD EVX2 ESC now. Which is sweet.

[bentrocker]

That's a great price on that combo shipped to Canada. I just spent that much on a mamba monster with a $10 coupon shipped to nova scotia.

[Mikey560]

Are you going to keep the summit diffs or are you going to put the erevo diffs in?

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[pavmentsurfer]

I bought 2 EREB Diffs for it. Im going to swap the diffs and bulkheads... since the summit bulks are slightly different from what I understand.

[ksb51rl]

You sir are a poster child for "mission creep."
At least two of the three motor systems will work in any of the vehicles. (Dewalt in an onroad would be pretty underwhelming.)

[pavmentsurfer]

Haha... mission creep? I can only imagine what that translates into.

I know one thing for sure. The dewalt stays in the summit. That one is a constant. It just works so good. Cleaned it and lubed it for the first time the other day. Took a whole can of motor cleaner to get all the gunk out but it still has every bit of power it had when it was new. Love that motor and i love being able to pull the brushes to inspect the comm and see everything inside.

[ksb51rl]

"Mission creep" is the expansion of a project or mission beyond its original goals, often after initial successes.

[pavmentsurfer]

Well... I think thats what will be carved into my tombstone someday. hehe.

[jamann]

And yes the bulks are different.
not sure if this cannibalistic desecration should be here or the revo forum . LOL
It's making me a bit sad to hear of this "altering" ha ha ha
(joking)


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[pavmentsurfer]

I figure once the parts come in I'll had to nicely ask KSB to move the thread to the e-revo forum. Till then, It's still a summit. Hehe.

I agree though, it's sad to see a summit downgraded... But at least it sacrificed itself to a good cause... Which is MY fun and enjoyment. Right?

[jamann]

I figure once the parts come in I'll had to nicely ask KSB to move the thread to the e-revo forum. Till then, It's still a summit. Hehe.

I agree though, it's sad to see a summit downgraded... But at least it sacrificed itself to a good cause... Which is MY fun and enjoyment. Right?

Ya you got me there...lol well in Spirit it's still the ferocious summit ......could again be , you never know


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[nabilmalik]

Just sent the payment for the XErun 150amp ESC and 2000kv motor... $145 shipped with the program card. I think I may toss this system into my GTP2E seeing as how its censored... and put the MMM/2000kv system that in my GTP into the E-Revo... thus making it technically an ERBE of sorts. How did I get here... the plan was a cheap and simple brushed basher. Oh well...

I guess my Summit gets the LVD EVX2 ESC now. Which is sweet.

Is that deal for a used Xerun 150 combo? If not, can we also get such great deal?

[Jakey]

Well... I think thats what will be carved into my tombstone someday. hehe.

Heck, by that definition "Mission Creep" should be your middle name.

[pavmentsurfer]

It very well may BE my middle name after my wife gets ahold of this project. hehe. Oh wait... it'll probably be something much worse.

Nabilmalik, that was used... these systems typically run over $250 new. Which is why it was such a good deal. It had been installed but never run.

[jungletreker]

do post some updates pave, would like to see the result

[snowslider]

^+1!



(ten char)

[OlorinTharkun]

Pave, you mentioned twice the new Summit ESC has LVD... do you mean "low voltage detection" for LiPos? I don't see that anywhere on the Traxxas page or the Tower site either.

... and usually LVC for "cutoff" is what we need for LiPo. Just curious, since I've been thinking about getting a Summit one of these days.

[Bearcats]

Pave, you mentioned twice the new Summit ESC has LVD... do you mean "low voltage detection" for LiPos? I don't see that anywhere on the Traxxas page or the Tower site either.

... and usually LVC for "cutoff" is what we need for LiPo. Just curious, since I've been thinking about getting a Summit one of these days.

The "new" ones do. So if you get new stock. you should have LVD/Cutoff with your stock Traxxas ESC. I think the change over was roughly in February.

[Jersey Crewmax]

Great thread, I really like how you thought out the parts value of the Summit.

[pavmentsurfer]

Kindof forgot about this thread. Hehe... I was focusing on the E-Revo thread.

But here is a quick update on this truck.

I finally got it in the mail:




Then, I took the truck completely apart:



Then I installed the new ERBE diffs and bulks, rockers, pushrods and shocks/springs, Hitec 7950 servo and GH single servo arm and put the rest of the truck back together.




Finally, I installed the only tires I really had on hand. A set of 3.8 trenchers. The truck was missing something... then I realized, I hadn't lowered the body yet. So, I drop it down.

[pavmentsurfer]

Last weekend I went to my closest LHS to get a few minor parts for another truck I was building for a friend and saw that they had a full set of 3.8 badlands in stock. I couldn't find these online anywhere so I bought them thinking they would be a better track tire for this truck.





Once I got them installed I realize the summit body is ALOT bigger than the E-Revo body and looks silly with the small badlands on it. BUT, they work great on the track, SO, I bit the final bullet and ordered an E-Revo slipstream body, body mounts, wing mount and wing and REVO RPM bumpers to finish the conversion of this truck to a full blown REVO. The only summit parts that remain now are the 2 speed and the axles. These parts are not in yet.

Obviously in the above pics the truck has my black body on it. Once I realized I wasn't going to run the summit body anymore I decided not to abuse the green one. Its brand new so I put it on my real summit for the time being and ran the black on e on this truck since its already beat up a bit.

Heres a video of this truck and my buddies new E-Revo with a 775 in it running around my backyard track last weekend. I love running these bigger trucks and was super impressed with how well they both handled. I was also very impressed with the 775 on 4S lipo. Good power and good run times without excessive heat. Ill be moving to a 2200kv brushless system soon but will be running this setup at least for a time to get used to it.

[snowslider]

I actually like the look with the Badlands / Summit body.

[EmaxxChris]

I actually like the look with the Badlands / Summit body.

x2, looks sweet! Trying to get my brother and brother in law into this addiction of mine now. Keep telling them how I can "make" whatever kind of offroad/basher truck they want. Just pick and choose the options you would like and I'll put it together. No takers yet, but I'm working on them. Easier for my wife to allow me to spend their money!! Ha! Really digging this build!