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    Where are these waterproof sensored brushless motors?

    I remember krall doing it manually but it looked like a delicate procedure.. could always grab a chassis shroud/cover I guess
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    They don't exist.... yet.
    Technology moves fast. VERY fast. When I bought the standard brushless system for my buddies eMaxx waterproof ESC's capable of 6S and 150 amps where just coming out and very expensive. By the time he got around to installing it, he could have bought one for maybe $60 more than what he spent already. I have no doubt that waterproof sensored brushless systems are not too far off in the future.
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    I see, well what would you recommend for now?

    Since I haven't ran my summit yet, I could sell the system out
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    Krall can chime in there... he has first hand experience.
    I personally do not like to give advice off from something if it is not first hand.

    My first suggestion: Drive it stock. You will probably be pleasantly surprised... I was.
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    Yeah I figured I would anyway so I'm just trying to break the motor in now
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    Yeah, although I waterproofed that Team Orion motor, I never really ran it the way I ran the Velineon. Was too precious to worry about - though only $100-150 it was the sentimentality of it all.

    This new motor, I swear I've been so busy I haven't run it more than an hour or so total. The battery has only been charged once, and my other two batteries don't even have connectors on them! I've been swamped with work for the past while, and this poor car is sitting beside me (and. all around me haha) dying to be finished!

    In short, liquid electric tape should be more than enough to stop the splashes full of conducting bits from getting on your expensive bits, but it will always be a non-warrentied thing until you buy it specific. There's no magic though, the sensor is super simple, and the ESC is just like any other ESC that you would water proof. Nothing to be worried about technically, it's just the standard, "hope I've done it well enough"

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    All motors are naturally water proof ( though they would rust/ corrode without prpoer cleaning) but with a sensored motor I would coat the sensor conection well with liquid tape then place some di-electric grease around the rotor entrance hole.
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    I was able to get a great deal ($12 shipped) on a set of used center shafts... one boot has a few small tears in it, other than that even new would look like these after a week.






    There is some wear on the front shaft... and you can see the extra cups that came with the shafts.

    I cut the front shrouds that go around the transmission screw access shaft off from the center skid. Now I can take just the center skid off if I need to... no loosening of any other parts. I just take the screws out of the center skid and lift up the back and pull it out. Going back in is the exact opposite.
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    I think that is one of the best upgrades for the Summit.
    It drives the same but It's one less piece you have to worry about breaking.
    The solid steel driveshaft improves mostly, the operators courage.
    PM me for help converting your Summit to brushless

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    Just ordered a DeWALT!
    Actually... ordered two of them and 4 brushes.

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    The DeWALT came in a few weeks ago... I had time to prep my buddies and carve a spot for it in his eMaxx, but I have yet to find time to prep and install it into my Summit.


    I have been too busy with other projects...



    Oh, so long ago I promised some programming information on a hacked GT3B....
    that day is finally here!

    I ordered a new GT3B to replace the guts of the junk GTX3 radio that I bought for my wife (covered earlier in this thread). It has a slightly smaller grip and is hackable just like the GT3B so her remote can control all of my (our) RC's just the same as mine can. I was able to get the circuit board switched over and soldered up for the hack... the 3 channel GTX is now an 8 channel beast!

    I won't cover the hack procedure here due to the fact that OverkillRC has all the details very well laid out with pictures and everything for everyone that purchases his hack kit. The only thing I can add to his information is that nothing physical is done to the controller besides soldering on a header pin so it can be reflashed and carving a slot so you can access your newly installed header pins. All the new channels created by the new software are controlled by existing buttons and are completely programmable.

    On to the programming...

    First, program the controller for 8 channels. Once this is completed per OverkillRC's instructions, select the model memory slot you want to store this programming. Then, if you wish, name the slot. I named mine "SMT".

    Activate 4WS mix
    Long click EPA
    "4" flashes, select
    Choose the channel of your rear servo (channel 6 for me), select
    "0%" flashes, select
    "NOC" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit

    Map the 4WS mix to TH Trim buttons
    Long Click REV
    Scroll to "2", select
    Scroll to "4WS", select
    "NOL" flashes, select
    Change to "100%", select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NOO" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Clicking through TH Trim up/down until "100%" displays activates front only steering, "-100%" activates rear only steering, and "0%" allows you to choose between "NOC" and "CRB" steering.

    Map right ST Trim button to turn crab on/off
    Long click REV
    "1" flashes, select
    Scroll to "OFF", select
    Scroll to "1 right back", select
    Scroll to "4WS", select
    "SWI" flashes, select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NVP" flashes, select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Pressing ST Trim right will allow you to select "NOC" or "CRB" steering.

    Map END to Channel 7; Rx switch
    Long Click "REV"
    Scroll to "E", select
    Scroll to "CH7", select
    "SWI" flashes, select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NVP" flashes, select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Pressing END will turn on (Channel 7 100) and off (Channel 7 -100) the lights

    Map D/R to Lap Count and Lap Count Reset
    Long Click "REV"
    Scroll to "d", select
    Scroll to "OFF" select
    Scroll to "d left forward", select
    Scroll to "LCR", select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Scroll to "d right back", select
    Scroll to "LCI", select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Pressing D/R forward will count the laps, pressing D/R back will erase the count.

    Map Lockers to Channel 3 Trim
    Long Click "REV"
    Scroll to "3", select
    Scroll to "OFF", select
    Scroll to "3 left forward", select
    Scroll to your rear locker servo (channel 5 for me), select
    "SWI" flashes, select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NVP" flashes, select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    "3" flashes, scroll to "3 right back", select
    Scroll to your front locker servo (channel 4 for me), select
    "SWI" flashes, select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NVP" flashes, select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Screen will state "Channel # 100" for locked and "Channel # -100" for unlocked when CH3 Trim is pressed.

    Map Channel 3 to Channel 3; Transmission Servo
    Long Click "REV"
    Scroll to "C", select
    Scroll to "CH3", select
    "SWI" flashes, select
    "NOR" flashes, select
    "NVP" flashes, select
    "OFF" flashes, select
    Long Click to Set
    Click [BACK] to Exit
    Screen will state "Channel 3 100" for high and "Channel 3 -100" for low



    I have not looked any further into it, but this same software/procedure might be doable to the newer GT3C as well.
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    yes it works exactly the same by GT3/C, take a look:

    Summit & E-Maxx

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    Very cool!
    At least now if they stop making the GT3B and I need a new radio there is a very affordable option.
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    yes, and the best is, the GT3/C has an lipo akku, total weight is 330g (in english?? i don't no sorry)
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    My GTX3 and GT3B are LiPo powered... not sure of their weight though.

    Your English is good enough for me to understand what you are trying to tell me... no worries.
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    Jimmie's DeWALT Install:

    First, a couple comparison shots...




    Cut both sides of the pinion with a Dremel, stuck a screw driver in the slot, and twist...




    Then grind a flat spot:


    I used the method where you slice the flat spot and a good chunk of the pinion off at the same time... that method took me 20-30 minutes to get the pinion off and the flat cut. This method took me 5... maybe.

    Here is how far the holes don't line up with the mount:


    Now it will fit:


    Washer to line up the pinion:


    Taped off the comm and painted it up... Old Ford Blue:



    I used a single 10 gauge (what I had) wire from each brush. I bent the tab over toward the brush for more clearance. These wires lead to a single TRX connector. The 4 wires from the ESC were joined, (red to red, black to black) to a single TRX connector.
    Last edited by Jimmie Neutron; 03-29-2013 at 09:37 PM.
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    Love it Jimmie! I love the classic ford blue!

    How did you tape off the vents with out leaving a mark on the outer of the can?



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    I didn't tape them off...
    I didn't see a point. The only part that needs to have unhindered contact is the commutator and that was taped. I was sure to give it a light mist, rotate the comm, and then repeat. That way the inside got an even coating all the way around.

    Ran it for 1.5 hours straight... mixed hi/low and the motor was 135F at the end bell in 40F weather.
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    Yea that ford blue does look good. Will also match the stock axle boots and servos
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    So now thats its all said n done, looks great by the way. Do you care to provide us with your review between the 775 and dewalt? Please.

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    Nice pain job Jimmie Prepped mine real good and still did not come out looking all that great. Guess that's what ya use a shinny finish pain LOL. I just stuck some paper towel in the area when the commutator to be safe.
    Have not checked the temp on my Dewalt guess I need to do that. Wonder what a good temp is for them or what is to hot.
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    Thanks for the compliments, guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by jonesdallas View Post
    So now thats its all said n done, looks great by the way. Do you care to provide us with your review between the 775 and dewalt? Please.
    There is not much of a comparison... the DeWALT can is 2-3x thicker, magnets are a LOT stronger, brushes are replaceable, TONS more torque... and that is all I have observed in the 1 run I have on it.
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    More torque means more broken parts!

    Blew out my rear diff... cannot really complain, it is 100% stock and has LOTS of hours on it. I will post some pics up when I swap it out.
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    Those are great prices on the Dewalts. Where did you order them from?

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    I love that Ford Blue motor... I've been thinking about the DeWalt a lot, but I don't think I'll get one. The stock motor is good enough for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoMaxPro View Post
    Those are great prices on the Dewalts. Where did you order them from?
    http://www.acetoolrepair.com/

    Quote Originally Posted by snowslider View Post
    I love that Ford Blue motor... I've been thinking about the DeWalt a lot, but I don't think I'll get one. The stock motor is good enough for me.
    I said the same thing until I was on my 3rd 775 in less than a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmie Neutron View Post
    http://www.acetoolrepair.com/


    I said the same thing until I was on my 3rd 775 in less than a year.
    Hmm, I guess I'm rather lucky then. I'm still on my first 775, and I bought my truck in mid 2011. I've been running quite a bit since then, yet the 775 is going strong.
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    Same here. Bought mine in December and I have yet to break the 775. Still keeping my eye on the Dewalt for if my 775 fails me though.
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    Care to give us an update on where you are now Jimmie?

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    +1 On the Update!
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    No mods and not much driving done since my last update... it has been raining for the past 6-8 weeks here which in turn has flooded the area in which I live with water levels 10-12 feet above normal.

















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    Holy crap, I've heard about this but haven't seen any pictures. An area not too far north of me is really affected too though surely not 10feet above normal! I live on a large hill, "Violet Hill" so for as much complaining about the crazy changes in weather and horrible winds (Violent Hill) we are lucky enough to never suffer flooding. Is your home affected? You need some paddle tires on that Summit now!!

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    Couple of more feet and we would have been evacuated like most others along the river... During this time it has snowed, rained, hailed, sleeted... has been cold as 15F and as warm as 85F; and most of that was in one day!

    The town that is about an hours drive east had its river crest at 32 feet above normal... so I don't have much to complain about. (our river feeds into their river... along with some others)
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    Ever thought of picking up a Spartan? LoL
    To SUMMIT up, its my coolest RC.

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    Hold on Jimmie ...yikes that is some serious water.water is a powerful force to be reckoned with.i live on a island and now so do you! almost.


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    Some "intelligence challenged" folks were wading out in the water... wouldn't find me out there in the cold, fast flowing, sewer filled waters.
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    Well you seem to be fairly intelligent.

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    I would get a REAL light bar on top than the fake ones.

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    What are you talking about... "Real light bar"?
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    What are you talking about... "Real light bar"?
    My guess is he wants to replace the stock fake light bar with the "real" light bar with the LED's in it. I thought you already have the light bar though...
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