What's faster; the new Traxxas XO-1 or a Rustler with a 2200kv motor???

[ITAPRINCESS820]

I am debating on getting a XO1 car and need your input. I have read that this car is supposed to go over 100 mph but the price is up there. Now I have searched on you tube for cars that do 100mph and came across a rustler . These cars have different bodies but there setup is similar except for the chassey being different. But for alot cheaper i can race a rustler and go 100mph or more. The video i saw was a guy goin 114mph and with a rustler! So why spend hundreds more when i can spend a little bit more and make a rustler alot faster???? What do people think on this??? Please help.

[ssanderson1]

I'd like to see that video.... post the link if you have it. Also, they are TOTALLY different cars.

[Dadx2mj]

There have been a few people who have got a Rustler to 100 mph, there have been MANY more who have tried and not made it there. I think it will cost you more than you think getting a Rusty to 100 mph and if you do get it there it is running on the ragged edge of what it can do. On the other hand the XO-1 does it once you unlock it right out of the box. The 4wd bigger stance and aero package it comes with appears to make it very stable and controllable at that speed where the Rusty would be like I said, on the ragged edge. Who knows how fast the XO-1 might go if you mod it out and push it to the ragged edge. Hands down the XO-1 has to be a more stable, controllable platform for high speed running

[fastmachine]

^ Exactly. This platform has much more potential. It takes a lot more than just a big motor to go really fast. The aerodynamics and chassis layout are huge at 1xx mph.

[pavmentsurfer]

Your talking about the difference between a vehicle that CAN go 100mph with ALOT of effort and hassle and when it DOES go 100mph its pretty much completely out of control... VS a vehicle that can go 100mph with no fiddling and can do it while in complete control. Im one of those people who tried to make a 100mph rustler and simply could not get it to work. I had about $600 into my speed rustler and could only get it to 80mph once. Anything over that and the car became undriveable.

its for this reason the XO-1 appeals to me so much. Id love to feel what its like to drive an RC car above the C-note just one time.

[cch1978]

The xo1 will put up more consistent runs than the rustler because of the design.

[Stevez26]

i own that kind of rustler...but it is totally different,

Buy the xo-1 if: you want control, not to built, and have a challenge.

built a 100 mph rustler if: you want the challenge, but it handles NOT, really you wil be building and building and building, replacing gears al the time, i know from experiance, but i really like to push the rustler to the edge, i like to use something that isnt built for speedruns...

it's up to you, and you wil not be cheap out, just a little cheaper, you be replacing parts al the time.

[Stevez26]

just search draven3907 on youtube or 100 mph rustler

[Petertje60]

Going 100mph with an XO-1 will be much less challenge than getting another car up to it, which is not designed for such speeds. So if you want challenge, get a Bandit and make it a rocket. If you just want extreme speeds with less challenges, get an XO-1. None of both will be cheap.

[Emaxx2.0]

And the other problem with other platforms is yes they can do 100mph but not consistently or easily. There is no reason to beat around the bush. The XO-1 is the very best at what it's design to do.

[vxlrocket]

conditions have to be near perfect for a rusty to get into the 100mph mark...i think the xo-1 has a much easier time getting and staying there. i also think there is potential for the xo to go well over 100. they're using a relatively low kv motor however torquey it is. i can't imagine what a 1521 1d or 1.5d or what a 1527 .5y or 1.5d could do in there with a mamba xl. the xo kinda looks a little like one of nic case's early schumacher proto's from back in the day that got to nearly 140. i think the xo has incredible potential for speed whereas the rustler is really pushing it's capabilities after the high 80's.

[turok]

if you just want to go 100 + then get another car for less. but if you want better control while going fast then get the xo-1

[dave00bear]

There is just no comparison here.....The Rustler is a off-road stadium truck, And IMO is best suitable for just that.

Yes with some modifying, gear changing, alterations, broken parts, numerous times of unsuccessful attempts, and $$$ spent, I guess some have hit the 100 mph mark.

But the XO-1 is a on-road super car, that was researched, designed and built for the speed.....Right out of the box.

You just can't compare the two in my eyes.


And also just a note.......Can a mod PLEASE change the spelling in the OP's title? Come on.....Its "Traxxas" not "Traxxus"

[ITAPRINCESS820]

Ok Dave00bear sorry for the typo .....

Thanks for all the input guys ... I did watch all of draven3907 videos and wow he really has that thing moving all under control. I definately see the difference with these cars and as a women in this hobby I thought the whole point of this hobby was to build ur own project and that's what I like to do. I wanna work and upgrade what I have. I would feel very proud of taking a car and makiing it go 100 mph then just taking it out the box.... Even though this X01 looks amazing.. But now a lot of new rc lovers r goin to just buy this car and go 100mph and dont even have the skill or time and experience to drive that car.

[Dadx2mj]

Ok Dave00bear sorry for the typo .....

Thanks for all the input guys ... I did watch all of draven3907 videos and wow he really has that thing moving all under control. I definately see the difference with these cars and as a women in this hobby I thought the whole point of this hobby was to build ur own project and that's what I like to do. I wanna work and upgrade what I have. I would feel very proud of taking a car and makiing it go 100 mph then just taking it out the box.... Even though this X01 looks amazing.. But now a lot of new rc lovers r goin to just buy this car and go 100mph and dont even have the skill or time and experience to drive that car.

I understand and agree with building or modding it to maie it your own. Nothing saying you cant do the same with the XO-1 and build it to go 130 mph or 150 mph or whatever speed this thing winds up being able to achieve. The potential to make it go faster is there IMO.

[Emaxx2.0]

But draven is bashing traxxas saying he told them that he has a rustler that goes 100mph and told him who cares no one wants a rc that goes that fast and he is claiming they stole all his ideas for this car. Funny seeing as the Traxxas rustler is made by...idk....TRAXXAS! Watch all his videos and he can only do 3 passes before that motor gets to hot. This is exactly the problem that plaques most high speed custom built rc. Whereas this xo-1 has a lot design into it so it can run 100plus all day long.

[vxlrocket]

Ok Dave00bear sorry for the typo .....

Thanks for all the input guys ... I did watch all of draven3907 videos and wow he really has that thing moving all under control. I definately see the difference with these cars and as a women in this hobby I thought the whole point of this hobby was to build ur own project and that's what I like to do. I wanna work and upgrade what I have. I would feel very proud of taking a car and makiing it go 100 mph then just taking it out the box.... Even though this X01 looks amazing.. But now a lot of new rc lovers r goin to just buy this car and go 100mph and dont even have the skill or time and experience to drive that car.

most of the hardcore speed people in this hobby wanna claim the feat of 100mph off of a platform that shouldn't do it and that's a very small number of us because it's not easy to do.

however, there are tons of people who want the speed and don't wanna spend the time and money experimenting until they find something that can do it.

most 1/8 buggies can do it with minor suspension mods, some tire changes, a gear change and a ton of battery. x-treme rc did a special where they took a vorza over 100 because it was becoming common place to use the 1/8 buggies as a platform after a handful of guys did it a few summers ago on youtube and rc monster.
there are even a few slash 4x4's that have youtube videos over 90.

my point is, i think there is a huge untapped demographic out there for the speed "challenged" that can make them run with the fast guys for a grand. An that was a genius idea from traxxas. Dadx2mj was right when he said those fast guys are gonna re-set the bar after this comes out. it won't suprise me if i see 120mph+ out of some of these i in a few months after they come out.

[RiverRat3]

I love it.I can see exhibition classes at drag strips already. Alot of tracks are already set up for short runs for Jr.class. Would be perfect for r/c.

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[Stevez26]

But draven is bashing traxxas saying he told them that he has a rustler that goes 100mph and told him who cares no one wants a rc that goes that fast and he is claiming they stole all his ideas for this car. Funny seeing as the Traxxas rustler is made by...idk....TRAXXAS! Watch all his videos and he can only do 3 passes before that motor gets to hot. This is exactly the problem that plaques most high speed custom built rc. Whereas this xo-1 has a lot design into it so it can run 100plus all day long.

The rustler stock can go 70mph+ BUT not al day long, tons of people including myself fried the esc, mine was gone in 10 min.
The xo-1 can go 100mph, but i do think..... it cant do that all day long. Let we all wait til we see the first revieuws of owners on youtube and here on the forums.

Draven was driving HUGE pinions of 32 thooth mod1 and more no wonder he had heat problems, i have a 2200 kv rustler, with a 24 tooth and a 36 spur with no heat problems at al. I did not go 100 yet though lol but it wil with the xo-1 tires!

[bswift]

I'd like to see that video.... post the link if you have it. Also, they are TOTALLY different cars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI6pD...e_gdata_player

[Emaxx2.0]

In the RCcaraction video shoot. They said that they did a couple full high speed runs to cool the motor down. That air duct works.

[PeterV]

The XO-1 motor cools faster when the car is moving than it does standing still. You can watch the temp drop on the dashboard, the NACA duct is very effective.

XO-1 is easy to get to 100mph, and it does it over and over. If you want to go 100mph, XO-1 is the easiest way to do it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue your dream of a 100mph [insert vehicle here]---it's your hobby, enjoy it the way YOU like

[snellemin]

The rustler stock can go 70mph+ BUT not al day long, tons of people including myself fried the esc, mine was gone in 10 min.
The xo-1 can go 100mph, but i do think..... it cant do that all day long. Let we all wait til we see the first revieuws of owners on youtube and here on the forums.

Draven was driving HUGE pinions of 32 thooth mod1 and more no wonder he had heat problems, i have a 2200 kv rustler, with a 24 tooth and a 36 spur with no heat problems at al. I did not go 100 yet though lol but it wil with the xo-1 tires!

The MMM can handle some obscene amount of power. Add some caps and it can handle some more, which is what the
Traxxas version has. The MMM is what I use for my amp hungry setups and it doesn't break a sweat.

[AbSoLooT1]

hands down the Xo-1. Hands down. Its made for that. Like a ford lightning versus a ferrari in regards to performance.

If you have the means, get the X0-1. But its really your taste. Also, the X0-1 comes with a larger motor than the MMM 2200KV. Its pretty much the same, but larger. Also, the remote with the X0-1 is awesome, and will be cool to see people incoperate it into their Traxxas vehicles over time. If you dont have an Iphone, U can get a used IPOD touch used in super condition for under a hundred bucks.

On the other hand, It is really cool to build your own vehicle. It comes with challanges, and costs but its a great time. I was on my way to a 100mph Rusty, and when the X0-1 came out, I put the breaks on it real quick and am considering my next step. I will likely keep the Rusty as a street fun vehicle for down the street and such and the X0-1 for some big stretches il have to drive to. But like we've said. Its your choice But if your goal is speed. Hands down X0-1. The comment above isnt a very usual thing.

[Stevez26]

The XO-1 motor cools faster when the car is moving than it does standing still. You can watch the temp drop on the dashboard, the NACA duct is very effective.

XO-1 is easy to get to 100mph, and it does it over and over. If you want to go 100mph, XO-1 is the easiest way to do it. That doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue your dream of a 100mph [insert vehicle here]---it's your hobby, enjoy it the way YOU like

Wel if so, you guys made the impossible possible, great job! the airduct is by far one of my favorite details off this product! never seen something b4 on a rc car.

But i wanna see some owners first on youtube and the forums, if they are thrilled, i wil consider buying one.
I live near the rotterdam harbers, so i have plenty of tarmac over there :-)

[The VXL]

If you have the passion and money and time get a rustler roller pump many $ as well as hours into it and I guarantee you'll be more pleased with yourself than if you just buy the x 01. But that isn't to say the x 01 is bad it is a fantastic piece of engineering and traxxas is setting the standard for what is possible in rtr

[arcaptainic]

Somebody brought up a good point earlier that pushing the Rustler to the limits can get you to 100mph. (Even though many have failed) The XO-1 get's to 100 stock out of the box. So what do you think will happen when somebody pushed the XO-1 to the limits? What would the top speed be if you got it to the point of uncontrollable? I realize that it's not out yet but I would like to hear what some RC/Traxxas veterans have to say.

[bryannll105]

either way not docking traxxas but your neighbors wont appreciate you goin 100+ mph (whick is sick by the way(; ) around their children and pets. id love to go 100+ , but the power the standard vxl combo and esc bring ( 70 + mph ) is PLENTY for this kid.I cant imagin controlling it at 100 , although to get it to 100 + mph youd probably have to run on a full scale nascar track ! LOL

[Kitteh298]

I dare you to make a slash with the stock body go 100 I put my spartan electronics and did a speed run, it did a clean backflip(off wheels, flip, on wheels), sooo much fun.

[ponie1992]

I'm currently in the process of surpassing 100 mph with my Rustler. I have gone 94.5 mph so far measured by a GPS. It is fun and challenging, but you can spend quite a bit of money along the way testing different things. I probably have up to $100 just in gears.

I've been thinking about the XO-1 and I want to get a rolling chassis. I then wanna try a 1/5 scale setup to see what it can do. Either that or run 1/8 scale setup in it. It isn't much heavier than my Rustler so I think it could go well over 100 mph with 1/8 scale stuff. So, maybe if you went about it that way, it would still be challenging to get fast speeds.

[equinator]

Um, wow! The max speed I've had with my Rusty, is 64mph. At 65mph, it took off like a plane, with an apogee of about six feet as it flew by the guy running the radar gun.

The XO-1 looks like it would handle the speeds much better. I haven't had much luck keeping the tires on the rims on any of my cars I've tried to push over 80mph........

[87 GN]

In a class of it own.

Videos of non-Traxxas RC vehicles are not permitted.
-ksb51rl

[ITAPRINCESS820]

I would love to see what the XO-1 would do if someone pushed it to the limits, which im sure many people will be doing!! Which brings me to a question? What do people use more to determine the speed of their car? I always use a gps. But many say its not reliable and use a radar gun?? whats the difference??? I have watched many videos, on fast cars as mentioned above and many people mention to watch Draven's videos on the rustler and I have; looks like he has used both gps and radar gun but many have also bashed him for it, along with alot of other bashing comments, looks like this guy is helping others and many dont give him credit? Opionions would be greatly appreciated!! thanks

[ponie1992]

Draven switched to GPS after he got bashed for using a radar gun. Alot of people said the gun wasn't accurate and could be manipulated. I use a GPS, but sometimes wonder about the accuracy. I would think telemetry would be the best option, but definitely not the cheapest.

[Dadx2mj]

I think most of us accept GPS and a radar gun as acceptable and accurate enough for this hobby.

Draven was criticized for the way he used the radar gun, or at least the guy who was using it i his videos. I remember in one of them the guy was running toward the car while clocking it rather than standing still as the car past by him. Whatever the device is it has to be used properly and running with a radar gun while taking a reading is not proper use of it.

[bswift]

I think most of us accept GPS and a radar gun as acceptable and accurate enough for this hobby.

Draven was criticized for the way he used the radar gun, or at least the guy who was using it i his videos. I remember in one of them the guy was running toward the car while clocking it rather than standing still as the car past by him. Whatever the device is it has to be used properly and running with a radar gun while taking a reading is not proper use of it.

Wow!! I did not see that. That's funny!!!

[petraeus]

The XO-1 will allways be faster than a Rustler.
I watched that Draven dudes youtube videos. No way that Rustler is even close doing 100 mph - not even close. So fake.
Gps or Radar gun are most likely set to show km/h
He will be fried when the XO-1 is on the street - period.

[ponie1992]

The XO-1 will allways be faster than a Rustler.
I watched that Draven dudes youtube videos. No way that Rustler is even close doing 100 mph - not even close. So fake.
Gps or Radar gun are most likely set to show km/h
He will be fried when the XO-1 is on the street - period.

Many Rustlers have exceeded 100mph. I have a vid of mine running 94.5mph. You must be new to the hobby.

[Dadx2mj]

Before we stray any further off topic let's let it drop ok? Let's try to keep posts about the XO-1 since this is the XO-1 forum.

[anr2442]

Also... Did i read that the tires were speed rated for 120-ish mph? Can anyone confirm that?

I suspect that means they will pop at speed higher than that. What do you guys think?

Whats the highest speed rated onroad tire? A 1/8 foam?