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    Cool My 302 project

    I will buy a brand new boss 302 brushed at my hobbystore thos saturday and already got projects for it. Needed to know your opignon about my ideas and whish you can be helpful
    my ideas for now:
    flat black paint
    ken block gymkana wheels
    brushless system
    grip tires on aftermarket wheels
    find some wheels to drive in the snow(need help to find these)

    pics to come later

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    Whynot just opt for the brushless model?
    Everything overpowered...

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    because i may opt for an other brushless system than the vxl 302 and the conversion is not urgent

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    Look up tamiya rally blocks. They mount on normal touring car rims.

    The 302 doesn't have enough ground clearance to drive in the snow though.

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    I used a 1/10 brushless setup in mine, Mounted the esc and receiver in the battery box, Traxxas premounted 4tec tires, wheels painted flat black, just put on revo double black springs, with 80wt oil, and a new proline lid. Never tried mine in the snow, but for parking lot running the 4tec premounts are awesome and last great.
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    well this said, ill be the firt one to try it on road full of snow and ice

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    I threw on a set of slash shocks on my stang and ran it in the freak snowstorm we had in Oct, with some homemade snow tires (zipties on the stock gymkhanas) and it was a blast! I may have to get a set of tamiya block tires or some mini slash tires before winter really sets in. With my car being tuned to drift it was stupid fun in the snow!
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    back home with a brand new brushed 302, its blue and waiting for the power cell to charge. do you suggest any suspension or slipper clutch adjustment?

    tried it on my street, just after rain it was drifting a lot but battery suck i charged it 6 hours and played 10-15 minutes. need suggestion on good battery and a faster battery charger
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    Lipos. Especially if you plan to go brushless. I wouldn't waste the money on additional or better nimh batteries.
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    I agree with Chris.
    I have heard the "I wish I didn't waste my money on NiMh" from just about everyone that has gone LiPo.

    What you experienced with the stock pack is normal. Honestly, if you charge it any faster it is going to shorten its life.

    Without going into great detail, I have 6 LiPo's that I can charge in less than an hour. I run these in parallel and get roughly 1 hour run times... so 1 hour of charging = 3 hours of play.
    Whatever it is I just typed... could be wrong.

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    but my esc cant take lipo as far as i know so unless i do my brushless, cant have more power/run time?

    now get clear idea of item i gotta buy but want opignon suggestions:
    brushless system: traxxas velineon 3m tra3370
    charger:?? need ideas i dont know what to take and need it less than 75$ if possible
    battery:2cell lipo 4000mah 7.4v tra2841
    aftermarket wheels for grip time:already found used maybe picking them up this saturday
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    I'd call Traxxas... the XL 2.5 can handle a little over 9 volts. A 2S LiPo at max voltage is only 8.4 volts. You should only need a LiPo alarm or cutoff device.

    I wouldn't get the package deal.
    The motor rocks, but the ESC is borderline; so you might end up replacing it anyway.
    Most end up getting a SV2.

    The Thunder AC6 is a very popular charger for around $50 shipped.

    Let us know how the call to Traxxas goes.... I am curious what they will say.
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    ok for the sv2 but wich motor? there is a lot of combo out there:


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    The Traxxas stock Velineon 380 brushless
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    but the sidewinder isnt brushless and gotta get the traxxas connector installed to it. is it really worth the difference with the velineon 3m?
    and i want to stay in traxxas since its my first real rc car so here is my options of ecs/motor:

    Velineon 1/10th system (part # 3350X) or

    Velineon 1/16th system (part # 3370).


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    The SV2 Sidewinder IS brushless... not sure where you got that is wasn't.

    Yes, the upgrade is worth it. Less heat issues, more power control... basically eliminates all the problems with the 3m.
    The 3s ESC (3355x)with the 1/16 380 motor (3371) is a good combination. You will have a lower CoG with a Traxxas ESC like you want without the issues of the 3m. You will have to figure out where to mount the ESC, as it is very large when compared to the 3s and even the SV2.


    More food for thought:
    http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread...=1#post4976056
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    pics of my wonderful boss 302 :]












    just got an onyx 200 what is your opinion on that charger ?
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    So wich LiPo batteries does everyone go for then? I only have the one stock NiMH battery at the moment, as I've only just bought my car, but I was looking to get extra batteries as I would like a decent amount of runtime, I'm not experienced enough to aim for putting them in series to get the 50mph+.

    th3boss, have you tried a set-up out in the snow yet? We are just starting to get snow as of today, and I was hoping to get something working for a bit of snow fun. It would be interesting to know what set-ups you tried, and if any worked.

    The car is looking good though btw. I have the KB one at the moment, but I was going to be a Mustang 302 shell as an extra shell, I was thinking of painting it as a variation of the paintjob on this 1969 Mustang drift car

    http://www.musclevehicles.com/pictur...rtr-x-mustang/
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    I use *****'s 2200mah 2S 20C's in parallel in my MERV (mini revo). I get roughly 1 hour run times with stock tires and 23/50 gearing. My speed is a constant ~30mph throughout the run.

    Other forum favorites are SPC and the new ******* **********'s.

    Keep in mind the brushless version is LiPo ready, the brushed version requires some calling to Traxxas and a LiPo LVC (low voltage cutoff).

    Quote Originally Posted by th3boss View Post
    just got an onyx 200 what is your opinion on that charger ?
    Looks like it only does NiMh/NiCd batteries.
    I am sure the charger will charge those chemistries just fine.
    But if it were my money, I would have gone just a little further for the Thunder AC6 as it does the above and LiPo for the future. The prices I found are around $40 and the AC6 is around $54.
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    heres a vid running in my street with snow and water and sand all bone stock out of the box

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeqcJdqC7IA

    and ordered a parrallel connector with another battery to get more running time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmie Neutron View Post
    I use *****'s 2200mah 2S 20C's in parallel in my MERV (mini revo). I get roughly 1 hour run times with stock tires and 23/50 gearing. My speed is a constant ~30mph throughout the run.

    Other forum favorites are SPC and the new ******* **********'s.

    Keep in mind the brushless version is LiPo ready, the brushed version requires some calling to Traxxas and a LiPo LVC (low voltage cutoff).
    So why those makes of batteries over the traxxas LiPos? Are they better, get longer run times, cheaper?

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    I can only speak of the *****'s; because that is what I own.

    They are cheaper.... a lot cheaper. I can get almost 4 *****'s to one Traxxas.
    I have not had both, so I cannot say which has a better quality... but I have not had a single problem with my Zip's.

    Traxxas 2S
    Traxxas 3S

    The others have been out a lot longer than Traxxas.... so people stick to what they know.
    Who wants to spend hard earned cash on a gamble?? People usually stick to what they know works.
    Now, if Traxxas would give the option of LiPo or NiMh included with the RTR... that might help TRX batteries grow in popularity. But there are a lot of people that think there should be options with Traxxas RTR's.... and it has yet to happen.
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    is the kb body fits on my boss 302?

    just got the vxl 3m for XMAS!! Cant wait to put it in and see how fast i can go wich gearing to use for the 50 mph with dual nimh battery and speed connector?
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    You can use the speed pinion. Using 2 NiMH batteries in series can cause heat issues. Watch your motor and ESC temps.
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    just installed it but cant run i stripped my motor mount and i didnt get the good holes in it for brushless screws so ill command one to see how fast i can go. i need tips for adjusting gear mesh i dont know how thanks

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    Page 24 of the 7304 Manual:

    Adjusting Gear Mesh
    Incorrect gear mesh is the most common
    cause of stripped spur gears. Gear mesh
    should be checked and adjusted anytime
    a gear is replaced. Access the gears by
    removing the single screw on the top
    gear cover.
    To set the gear mesh, cut a narrow strip of
    notebook paper and run it into the gear
    mesh of the motor. The motor is mounted
    to an aluminum motor mount. Loosen the
    single motor mount screw with the provided
    2.5mm wrench to slide the motor mount.
    Slide the motor and pinion gear into the
    spur gear. Retighten the motor mount screw
    and then remove the strip of paper. You
    should be able to run a fresh strip of paper
    through the gears without binding them.
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    just ordered my motor mont i stipped last run ill now be able to try my brushless to his max power

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