New Castle Creations Speed Control From Traxxas

[bdp1174]

Sent in my vxl esc and origonal motor for repair and got the new castle marine esc and motor combo.Thank You Traxxas..
They sent it overnite shipping too.
Now thats customer support.
heres a few pics

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0/IMG_0471.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0/IMG_0470.jpg


off to work but I will have some more info for you guys later.

Once again traxxas I appreciate all of your great support and I look forward too all of your great products down the road.

Brandon,

[Orca2]

FedX just delivered my replaced items, looks to be the same esc but with the new motor. I will install today and the boat pond will be open to power boats on Sunday. I will testing different props, X442, X640, M445 and a Prather 225 & 215. Will post results when done. I plan on testing with NMHID and 6s Lipo's.

"enjoy your ride"

Dennis

[Orca2]

Same Esc as in the castle one?

Same as origional (stock).....

[danielhr77]

Love it! I want that motor!

[djmaincheese]

Found these pics on OSE Traxxas Spartan Forum courtesy of HydraNeu, Can't wait to get my new Spartan with these updated electronics. Thank you Traxxas......Now she will be ready for 6S

[ArmyofDarkness]

1420 1800kv, thats a new one, and a Marine version of the MMM- I like....

[jrichards]

How did u get them to send it overnight? I need to send mine out, but they told me it would be atleast 10days..I really dont want to wait forever because I just purchase this boat two weeks ago. I hope I get the new castle version too.

Sent in my vxl esc and origonal motor for repair and got the new castle marine esc and motor combo.Thank You Traxxas..
They sent it overnite shipping too.
Now thats customer support.
heres a few pics

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0/IMG_0471.jpg

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/g...0/IMG_0470.jpg


off to work but I will have some more info for you guys later.

Once again traxxas I appreciate all of your great support and I look forward too all of your great products down the road.

Brandon,

[IanHJato33]

That is not fair....i got a new motor but the same esc because mine did not have a problem. I should get what everyone else gets!!!!!!!!!!!! Man am I mad!!!!!!!!!!!

[jrichards]

i agree, if it works fine then it doesnt matter...but its only free because the first motors were junk...imo. not up to the task of 6s power.

[jrichards]

how long is it taking for you guys to get your updated electronics back once you ship it? Also are you sending just the ESC and motor, or the complete tray w/ servo and all? Thanks...

[ErickZ71]

I spoke with Traxxas last week, and its about 8 to 10 days from the time they receive your parts. I'm hoping to see the "Castle items" for mine. I had to send it the rev 2 items in for a ESC faliure. I was told since I had the 2 rev speedo and motor go back, I would get the new castle setup. I hoping

[jrichards]

so you had an issue with the version 2 stuff, thats not good. Im hoping to get the castle stuff too, dont want to have to send in this stuff numerous times, nor should we have too. I just dropped 400 on this boat less than two weeks ago.....very frustrating.....

[ErickZ71]

yep...I was suprised about the rev2 problems I had. I think the ESC went bad.

[tylermacadam-93]

what does the newest version of the spartan have in it .. this one ?

[tylermacadam-93]

ok that is a nice motor and esc .... i just cant wait for my b day in august.. ive heard alot of bad things about the spartan thoo but i really dont wanna back awayy from it.. its to nice

[tylermacadam-93]

does it give you longer run times ?

[Snafujg]

Traxxas received my motor and esc last monday, 7/11. I had the replacements delivered to my house on Saturday, 7/16. And it was the new Castle motor and esc.

THANK YOU TRAXXAS!!!!

Next Question: What size is the can on this new motor? They sent it with the rubber cooling jacket like the stock one. I'd like to get an aluminum can. But not sure what size can will fit on this new motor. Anyone have any ideas?

[ErickZ71]

They got mine on the same day.....(Rev2 speedo) so hopefully I'll see something soon

[GeoVW72]

Next Question: What size is the can on this new motor? They sent it with the rubber cooling jacket like the stock one. I'd like to get an aluminum can. But not sure what size can will fit on this new motor. Anyone have any ideas?

Still a 36mm can so the old aluminum jackets will fit

[roadrashracing]

New castle combo is having problems already: http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/...464#post340464

Please do not try to bypass the language filter by using symbols/numbers. Doing so is against the rules.

[jrichards]

this is disappointing, i just mailed my motor/esc today. This makes me wish I bought something else....unfortunately

[ArmyofDarkness]

I wonder why traxxas went with a marine version of the MMM, now that I think about it, when castle have a large selection of boat escs already that wouldnt have required the esc casing & cooling to be redesigned.

Call me cynical ( who, me? never... ), but it does make one wonder about how much & what type of testing traxxas did with the initial setup and the castle setup too..

[danielhr77]

One idea that I had (like my Museum idea which they listen to) is to have beta testers around the world of their new products before they are released... Users definitely put much more abuse to the trucks and boats than Traxxas does and this could help a lot to improve most of the issues with them... I'm not saying Traxxas does not tests their products enough, I'm saying they need to widen their test range... Just an idea and I still want that motor!!!

[GeoVW72]

Maybe we're jumping to the wrong conclusion, the led placement is wrong for a MMM but right for a hydra(I know an even better thought )
I don't have the traxxas/castle yet, what color is the led?
The ICE series would be a good candidate. I'm not sure why they didn't go with it in the first place.

Testing!?, who needs to test it? it works.
I've had no issue with the updated traxxas esc. The motor was half the problem, what it's spinning is the other

danielhr77: you need to catch up on some reading. we're not "pushing" the boat, we're just trying to operate it with what we're given out of the box and it's not even close.
Your idea is valid, if you want to work for the cia.
"Officially" there is no issue or update

[thecoolman101]

well i hope someone has realized where those batteries are from and we all know *****s, *******, or whatever brands they have dont work well with castle esc's. maybe that is the problem. and btw i was talking about the person in the link.

[ArmyofDarkness]

Maybe we're jumping to the wrong conclusion, the led placement is wrong for a MMM but right for a hydra(I know an even better thought )
I don't have the traxxas/castle yet, what color is the led?
The ICE series would be a good candidate. I'm not sure why they didn't go with it in the first place.

It's definitely not a hydra, totally different shape, size and layout- just look at the water cooling inlets / outlets and the capacitors:

http://www.castlecreations.com/media.../mk-hydra.html

Not even close- I would wager a proper marine esc would function better though- $209 for the 120amp model, $299 for the 240amp model ( retail prices ) however so maybe thats why the MMM was selected ( $199 retail )?

I think traxxas wanting to jump into the high-powered world of electric boats is very admirable but they are a few decades late, there are many, many far more established companies with much more experience of what it takes to make a solid setup, and to make that setup fast too- ain't cheap though, this area of the hobby is definitely not for the faint hearted or shallow of wallet...

[ArmyofDarkness]

Where & when did they say that?

Castle dont assemble other companies escs & just stick their label on the case, they do all the design and construction in-house, just certain components which have to be sourced elsewhere.

Not to mention the older escs and the new castle dont even look that similar:



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Observe the exact wire locations, use of bullets & wires, and water cooling layout- plus overall size and casing material ( different plastics ) Please go and check your facts....

[ArmyofDarkness]

Called traxxas or castle?

Something sounds very off about all that :-/

[dmwilson09]

I had one of the new version "2" ESC's & Motors (without the Castle logo's) and the motor is the same but the New Castle logo'd ESC is much different than the one I received . I would think that Castle may have used the blue plastic casing design from Traxxas so that this ESC would be a direct replacement, but there is no way that this is the same ESC.

[jrichards]

How is the motor the same, the newer motors have a larger front endbell, like all the castle motors.....the original did not. Ive also heard the new motors are 4 pole and the original's were 2 pole.

[ArmyofDarkness]

He might just have gotten a new esc but got the same motor back^ ( the new motors are indeed 4 pole- they are based on a 1420 1800kv design, like the 1415 motors for SC trucks ).

I would talk to the castle reps/ engineers and enquire about the castle-branded esc, I wouldn't trust the word of the traxxas phone reps on the basis they don't seem to know an awful lot about their own equipment half the time ( no offence ).

[dmwilson09]

I was comparing my version "2" equipment to the version "3" Castle Logo'd Equipment. My motor was the same as the Castle Logo'd Motor (But with out the Castle logo) but my ESC looked the same as the original esc that came with the boat. I had read somewhere that my version "2" ESC was a castle ESC in a Traxxas casing but that Castle decided to put there logo on the ESC which is now what I am calling the Version "3" ESC. Anyways, I dont believe these two esc's are anywhere close to being the same.

My system is the system shown in last picture of ArmyofDarkness's post #34

[ArmyofDarkness]

Interesting stuff, it's all very cloak & dagger when one company starts OEMing stuff for another sometimes- Patrick did mention he couldn't comment officially on the new motors when they first appeared, turns everything into guessing game if logos arent included straight away..

[ArmyofDarkness]

You gotta talk to the right people- Tom or Joe in the engineering department will know alot more, assuming they can really talk about it that is.

[GeoVW72]

Great
Traxxas passes the buck to Castle, who has no idea what it is, and takes all the credit for the design work(Castle just tweaked it)

I wouldn't "call" the esc without seeing under the hood or knowing what the led color is. If it's red it's a hydra or something similar, if it's red/green/yellow it's a monster

[PEDE-OFF]

My tray went back and was received on the 15th of this month. No word back from Traxxas as of yet but I'm hoping to get back some electronics that work with the $400.00 lipos I purchased to run the boat Atleast I have some time to make changes to the boats appearance Pictures will be coming soon! Members from Maine may like this one

[PEDE-OFF]

Why is everything so secretive?

[lmnop]

Here's all the info you need
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...t=30208&page=2

[ArmyofDarkness]

Bah, that's cheating.

Yep, I asked on behalf of the Traxxas forum and Patrick ( CEo of castle ) provided an exacting answer that should dispel any rumours and myths ( assuming you trust the word of the company president ). Not sure what the power rating on the esc is but I woudlnt be surprised if it was 120-150amps+ ( ratings rarely get listed so as to avoid competitors just sticking a slightly better one on their competing escs in order to look better ).

Thank me later