I have a dilemna...finish revo or go with slash 4x4 for simplicity?

[needapeed]

I am REALLY tight on money and am not sure if I have enough to finish my revo. (this whole home ownership things really zaps your cash!)

I have in my possession:
E-revo roller with 17mm hubs
new MMM
New 1518 1800kv motor
Onyx 230 charger (2s/3s)
New trenchers on maximizer beadlocks
airtronics 2.4ghz radio
Rest of truck is totally stock.

No lipo's so regardless of what I do will have to buy a couple.

I do have a full FLM extended pede with Ofna 1/8 buggy suspension all around with MM/VXL motor that I will be selling to help fund whatever decision I go with. Its a sweet truck with amazing long travel suspension, but I really am wanting a 4x4 to do what I need.

I am trying to get down to one truck that can do it all...do some reasonable offroading but also be able to run on the street for speed runs and good handling. I really want durability and simplicity.

In order to run the setup I bought (1518/ 4s-5s) I am thinking the revo needs some SERIOUS money put into it....
LST diffs
Cvd's or LST shafts
Probably Tekno knuckles to handle the LST shafts (and get rid of annyoing wheel wobble!)
New steering servo to turn those trenchers

Anything else im missing?

Anyone want to add prices to my above list? (also difficulty of fitting such said parts?) I know my way around a dremel but dont want a situation where if I dont get it perfect I have to keep buying new bulkheads to make diffs fit.

My other option is to sell both above listed trucks and buy a slash 4x4, put some new MT tires on it and probably the MMP/2400 on 3s.

Again I love the revo suspension and its ability to go over ANYTHING but I dont want to be wrenching forever and constantly fixing things as at this point in my life I just dont have the time or money!

Thanks in advance

[ducati777]

Strangely, you appear to be trying to spend as much money as possible....

If money is tight, either stick to stock parts, or like you said, go with a less expensive vehicle.

I absolutely love my 2xSlash, its very cheap to run.

[MERVlife]

the slash is definitely an all in one truck with a couple small switches the slash can go from buggy to sct to monster truck. some extra tires means that you can take it on road, off road, or to your local track. you dont NEED to buy the MMP for 3s. the sl4sh is a very durable truck, the sl2sh is a lil more durable, but the 4x4 means more off road fun.

if you sell your e revo as a roller and those parts separate, as well as the stampede you could get a solid amount of money, maybe 2x the $ for a NIB sl4sh (about $375) then some other parts, and still have money left over!

my point is: sell ur trucks. get the slash 4x4 and some extra parts.

[gordongekko]

on 4-5s cell batt, you're setup look fine... did you brake your diffs that much ( i'm running 5s for almost 2 year now and didn't brake one single diff.... just be carefull on the throttle and don't jump 20 feet+++ ). Just add sway bar on your setup and maybe rpm a-arm if the stock failed. also don't put your slipper to stiff, and you should have a very durable truck... you will brake a driveshaft once in a while, but you will brake those with the slash as well...

[bauerjac]

personally id finish the revo then if you want sell it for a slash

[chapinb]

You dont need any of the upgrades...
What you listed are NICE to have, but IF you do break anything (diffs/shafts) replace them with OEM stuff and youll still be a few hundred in the red (for house paint and such).

[ducati777]

errrr I think you mean in the black.

Red means you're losing money....

[needapeed]

Thanks for the input. I had that list out of what I thought was necessity not necessarily want. I have heard 5s is the sweet spot for the 1518 but I am sure 4s will still perform admirably with the available torque. I can always grab a single 3s to try 5s if all is well in parts land.

I guess either way I need lipo's... Will use the money from the stampede to buy those (probably two 2s and one 3s of same cap. so I have ability to run 5s or 4s on revo or 2s/3s if I end up with slash.

Is there anything then for this setup that is a MUST have (almost guaranteed failure)??? One thing I forgot on the list is the slipper...I am thinking that will be the one thing I really need to upgrade with the 6 inch tires + 1518.

What are the current options for that? Does the Tmaxx brake disc still work? Seemed like a cheap and effective alternative to the 40 dollar setups.

[needapeed]

lol I am always in the Red so He was technically correct

[ducati777]

lol I am always in the Red so He was technically correct

lol... you're right. I've never MADE money on rc....

[needapeed]

Ya this hobby (like my others...ATV'ing, cars etc) all end up with me owning something very custom and nice but worth hardly anything more than a lightly used stock version of the same thing! Got to live it!

[ducati777]

True true. A used rc is practically worthless. A little like my old x-terminator gas buggy. It was too expensive to run it, it broke all the time, and wasn't worth anything used... thus it sits in pieces on the shelf.

But current models like the revo have pretty long lives... I think I've had my Slash for 3 years now, and while I've replaced a ton on it, the transmission, the rear A arms, the front shock tower, are all still stock from day 1.

Hmmm. thats about all though. Shrug.

[FoxhoundEP3]

you can run your erevo without all that expensive stuff. Im running 5S geared 20/50 and have not damaged anything, stock diffs, stock driveshafts, stock servos, stock knuckles.

[Divey1130]

If you decide to sell it I would be interested in the motor. I could use a fourth one as a back up. Now to your question and I do have both. I bought a e-revo new, my wife took it over. I wanted one so I built one from a nitro revo which ended up as a e-revo. Tons of money in that. Put a 1518 1800kv motor in running on 5 cell. Lots of power and a blast to drive. Stock drive shafts up front and traxxas cvds in the rear. Every 5-7th run I break one of them. Stock diffs just shimmed really well. Big jumps take the rear ones out. My wife went through a lot when she first started but now she can make them last. Arms broke, bulk heads, rocker post, push rods, etc..... Real fast and a blast to drive. That is a summary of my e-revo.
Slash 4x4, bought used and put every upgraded part on it. Not needed but its a tank now. Tekno axles, mmp/2400 on 3-4s, kings headz mount, e-revo diffs and slipper, rpm everything they make for it, etc.... Didn't drive it much so I traded it for a rc8t truggy. 1 year goes buy and I am in the market for another one. The guy I sold it to was local and saw that I was looking for one. He offered mine back with everything it had. He never even drove it. Shipped back to me in the packaging I shipped it with. Here is when I put the mmp/2400 in from the vxl setup. Started to drive it again and found out how much fun it is. Nothing ever breaks or comes loose on it. I made it like buggies/truggies to where there are lock nuts for every screw that I could. I never ever break anything and bash the living snot out of it. I can keep up with my wife in her truggy on 5s. Finish my pack and start to head over to get my e-revo out. Decide to use those batteries on my slash. After 10 packs in a couple hours my e-revo still sits.

So long story short, I missed out the first time around on how fun a slash 4x4 really is and how durable they are from stock form. Add some upgrades and its bullet proof. I love my slash 4x4 and will never sell it again. Just got my new esc back from castle for a warranty replacement for my e-revo yesterday. Today we will see if it will be driven or the slash 4x4. I already know the answer, the question is do you.

Terry

[needapeed]

Very informative reviews, I appreciate them!

How well does the slash with MT tires go over rougher terrain compared to a revo? I figure with raised ride height and 5 inch tires the slash should hold its own. No revo for suspension travel but I guess I dont really do super heavy offroad crawling that much anyway (just the occasional logs/curbs).

How does the MMP/2400 compare to vxl on 3s??? Do you run 2s/3s or 4s?

I have driven my 1/8 suspension pede (2wd) on 3s/vxl and it hauls pretty well but I am thinking 3s plus 4x4 plus 5 inch offroad tires = extreme heat and possibly death to vxl setup.

I have seen people run the 2200 in the slash with the MMM... I do have the brand new MMM/1800 but am thinking that combo is just too large for this truck. Not to mention the combo would probably have to be geared sky high and run on a minimum of 4s... to get any kind of speed out of it.

[Divey1130]

I have not used MT tires on it yet but from videos it seems to be fine. The mmp/2400 will have more torque, run cooler, and run more efficiently. In the long run it's the way to go or use the 3800kv motor with the mmp. The vxl is a good motor but the esc has to many issues for me. You can run a mmm with either motor if you have it. No sense in selling it for a mmp esc then you have to get an external bec cause the one in the mmp is weak. You can run the 2200 motor or 2650 motor, you would just have to gear up. On 2s it's not worth it. Get the 2400 or 3800 setup. The 1800kv motor will be to long and be way to much for it. You couldn't fit the gearing in there to achieve decent top speed. Keep your mmm esc and sell your 1800 to me and then buy your sct motor.

[needapeed]

Thanks for the info. You have a pm.

[bauerjac]

lol... you're right. I've never MADE money on rc....

you could start drag racing them, i just use a 500ft. straight on my road

[Fitness14]

Wanna know a secret I learned the hard way.....stock is usually best. The Traxxas engineers know what they are doing for the most part. Bashing around with the truck for fun......stock is fine. Blowing up diffs is usually due to landing on power, repetitive backflips, or something. The E Revo is a very tough truck...stock. I have been down the road of buying every aftermarket part for RC's, and you spend more time grinding or dremeling the parts to work right because these great aftermarket parts weren't checked properly to see if they rubbed here or caught there. Then when they break you need to dremel and grind all over again.

Also, you need a weak spot with a 5 hp RC. The stock rear shafts slowly twist and round out the hole the pin goes through. Eventually you need to slap a new pair on. But that weak spot is absorbing torque that would otherwise be absorbed by gears. Do I think the truck should now come with the Summit shafts in the back.....yes. But nothing is perfect.

I broke my rule and bought the Tekno RC hub carriers. I put the fronts on and they really eliminated the slop. But one of the 8mm axles had bad threads in the center (where the big set screw goes in and traps the axle pin). I fought with that for a couple hours, before giving up. Also, the holes in the hub where the small set screws go and keep the ball joint caps from coming loose is a tight hole. The first time you put the set screw in you really have to gorilla grip it and torque the set screw....it is almost like you are threading the hole the first time. I stripped the head of one set screw and tried to drill it out but the bit broke and I drilled into my thumb. So I said F--- it, I am staying stock. That way I can throw summit shafts on of I want and I can still use Traxxas wheels (since the Tekno carriers wont take the splined Traxxas wheel). Of course you could dremel the wheel spline off the traxxas wheel, but i don't want to be messing with that stuff any more.

Plus you can pick up 4 new E Revo stock hubs for like 20 bucks on ebay. Are the Tekno's better hubs....yes in some ways. But for simplicity's sake I am staying stock.

If anyone wants 4 Tekno hubs (2 still in package, 2 out of package but never used....one has a stripped set screw stuck in it) all the hardware and 4 extra 8mm axles (8 axles total)...PM me.

[Divey1130]

Wanna know a secret I learned the hard way.....stock is usually best. The Traxxas engineers know what they are doing for the most part. Bashing around with the truck for fun......stock is fine. Blowing up diffs is usually due to landing on power, repetitive backflips, or something. The E Revo is a very tough truck...stock. I have been down the road of buying every aftermarket part for RC's, and you spend more time grinding or dremeling the parts to work right because these great aftermarket parts weren't checked properly to see if they rubbed here or caught there. Then when they break you need to dremel and grind all over again.

Also, you need a weak spot with a 5 hp RC. The stock rear shafts slowly twist and round out the hole the pin goes through. Eventually you need to slap a new pair on. But that weak spot is absorbing torque that would otherwise be absorbed by gears. Do I think the truck should now come with the Summit shafts in the back.....yes. But nothing is perfect.

I broke my rule and bought the Tekno RC hub carriers. I put the fronts on and they really eliminated the slop. But one of the 8mm axles had bad threads in the center (where the big set screw goes in and traps the axle pin). I fought with that for a couple hours, before giving up. Also, the holes in the hub where the small set screws go and keep the ball joint caps from coming loose is a tight hole. The first time you put the set screw in you really have to gorilla grip it and torque the set screw....it is almost like you are threading the hole the first time. I stripped the head of one set screw and tried to drill it out but the bit broke and I drilled into my thumb. So I said F--- it, I am staying stock. That way I can throw summit shafts on of I want and I can still use Traxxas wheels (since the Tekno carriers wont take the splined Traxxas wheel). Of course you could dremel the wheel spline off the traxxas wheel, but i don't want to be messing with that stuff any more.

Plus you can pick up 4 new E Revo stock hubs for like 20 bucks on ebay. Are the Tekno's better hubs....yes in some ways. But for simplicity's sake I am staying stock.

If anyone wants 4 Tekno hubs (2 still in package, 2 out of package but never used....one has a stripped set screw stuck in it) all the hardware and 4 extra 8mm axles (8 axles total)...PM me.

Contact Tekno about the 8mm shaft part. I had the same thing. They had a bad batch that wasn't drilled out enough and will get you a replacement for free.