MIP HD or Tekno?

[pavmentsurfer]

Took the pede out for a spin today and immediately snapped a front driveshaft. Theyre the only things not upgraded on this truck so im thinking i might as well go for it but i need to know what you guys think is the best option.

ive heard talk that the teknos can pop out under certain circumstances. i also dont like that i have to run the plastic tekno rear carriers. MIP is more expensive but are they strong enough? ive had no luck with MIP shafts in my 2X4 but i understand these HD units are strong.

the last option is a jato mod... but i dont want shafts i have to build parts for every time ibreak something.

advice is appreciated

[becdino]

I'm new but I have been looking at every part for the pede and every company. My money is with MIP the part looks great basically same style as in the pede now and it looks bullet proof, just IMO.
Oh on MIP website they are 75 but it looks like the local hobby shops can get it around 50-62 bucks.

[choppermech11@m]

Well, I have the MIP in my slash 4x4 with a MMM running 3-5s and have had zero probs, I also have the MIP in my pede 4x4 with the new 2400 mmp setup. I run 3s and sometimes 4s. All I can say is to let the locktight set. I am using blue and have no back outs or anything. I too was looking but i didnt want the plastic rear, and also the stories of popping out.

[asheck]

With the RPM arms I've had a rear shaft pop out twice. But both times it was from 50mph tumbles. But I also did move the shocks in to limit the extension some. The Tekno carriers are awesome. They have a very good fit, and are much bigger then the stock stuff, bigger bearings , less wear. But if you did manage to break something it could be a pain to have to order a replacement. But you do get 2 set's of rear carriers, so that helps.

So after having the Tekno's I recently had to buy shafts for my Slash 4x4. I really debated this same thing, MIP or Tekno. The MIP were heavier, have slots that can get dirty and need cleaned, uses the stock sized bearings, and have a bunch of little screws and pins, are more expensive. But they allow full travel, and seem to get just as good as reviews as the Tekno's, both pretty good.

It was a tough decision, but I went with another set of Tekno's.

[pavmentsurfer]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I went with MIPs. Got them for $50 a set (front and rear) on e-bay and managed to find a seller that had alot of other parts I needed so I could combine shipping. Got an MIP Gen 3 slipper for the truck also. After todays bashing I absolutely killed my Hummer SUT body... its cold here so the plastic was brittle. I also bent 2 stock rear axles. I was running 3S, full throttle at a bit pile of snow, just learnign how the truck handles in the air and made a few mistakes. Anyway, the new shafts should help a bit... we'll see if they can survive bashing in ontario...

[thedreadedend]

I haven't purchased a pair yet but plan on going with the MIP set. They are much heavier but, after holding both packages in my hands, I feel better about the MIP's. I don't do speed runs but I do jump 80% of the time I'm bashing. Limiting the travel my not be the best for my bash style. Also, with hard bashing, I do tumble alot. So I may spit Teckno's out often. Also I use the RPM arms, and they do flex alot. That may contribute to loosing or droping Teckno parts. I don't see me doing damage to the monsterous MIPs and I will most likely snap plastic carriers when the rough landings stress the rear drive train. Looking like MIP's may be a hard bashers best bet.

[asheck]

I'm not trying to say anyone made a wrong choice, as I know that they are both good choices. But I still feel like I must defend my choice,

I will most likely snap plastic carriers when the rough landings stress the rear drive train.

Did you see the size of those carriers, I'd bet on them against anything Stampede size, including aluminum. They are massive. When the shaft pops out there is nothing that can be lost. The shaft is still attached to the wheel side. All you have to do is unscrew your link. Honestly my deciding fact was that I have absolutely been cruel to mine, and they show 0 signs of wear. Rolling back flips at 30mph, double back flips off rocks, 60mph 4s 2400 runs, on heavy Trenchers, thats alot to ask of any shaft, and for them to take it in stride says alot IMO. When you're stripping the inside of wheel hexes, I have to say you have a strong drivetrain.

I'm not saying the MIPS won't do the same thing, as I have no experience with them.

[pavmentsurfer]

If Dreaded and I end up with MIP's and Asheck... youve got the tekno's... id say were pretty good proving grounds. We should all make sure we keep the masses updated as to how these things are holding up.

[efarrell]

question about thread lock...or loctie


anything specific i should use? Any loctite from the local hardware store work?

What about greasing......anything specific?

[becdino]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I went with MIPs. Got them for $50 a set (front and rear) on e-bay and managed to find a seller that had alot of other parts I needed so I could combine shipping. Got an MIP Gen 3 slipper for the truck also. After todays bashing I absolutely killed my Hummer SUT body... its cold here so the plastic was brittle. I also bent 2 stock rear axles. I was running 3S, full throttle at a bit pile of snow, just learnign how the truck handles in the air and made a few mistakes. Anyway, the new shafts should help a bit... we'll see if they can survive bashing in ontario...

I was just searching ebay for them did he have more for 50 bucks?
What was the seller?"

[pavmentsurfer]

Heres a link to the one set of shafts, i got both for the same price from the same seller, with the exchange it came to $50 cdn per set

MIP X-Duty

[asheck]

Ha, ha, are we gonna have a contest, and see who can do the biggest stunt, and not break a driveshaft. I double dog dare you to do a standing triple backflip, I know you have the power

Toadz, That's where I got my Tekno's. Ordered them Friday night, got them Monday. Thats pretty good IMO.

[becdino]

They are the same as the 11110 and 11109 for the pede 4X4? the part number is different?

[thedreadedend]

Asheck, I only wonder about the rear carriers because the come with back ups. I see all of your points and would argue for a second. Lol, I've seen some of your vids and I would be ok with the same shafts you chose. Im glad oh stand strong behind your choose and your getting your moneys worth. I know what to get if MIP ever fails me!
Pave, im in. I will be getting some within the next few weeks because, my girlfriend kindly pointed out one day, and this is why I love her lol, I have spent about $50 on stock replacements and could have had a pair of the MIP's. So she said next time just get what lasts the first time.... I think we will have a good spread on covering the durability of these things lol. Pave let's see who keeps the original grubs the longest and a side bet on who bends the first axle. I can't go in on twisting a shaft unless we cut a deal on the SPC pen lol.
Asheck if Teckno lasts on your rig.... they should work for most anyone! You have always steered me in the right direction and thank you for that! I know you understand some of my silly choices are just to be different and to sometimes explore something I haven't seen or read about. I always consider what you have to say even if it doesn't seem that I have. No need to defend your choice of cvd's.....you would be the first to call it junk if you thought they were. I didn't realize the shafts were completely attached. I was wondering how long it took to find one after loosing it at 50-60 lol.

[Lordsilas]

If Dreaded and I end up with MIP's and Asheck... youve got the tekno's... id say were pretty good proving grounds. We should all make sure we keep the masses updated as to how these things are holding up.

please do as i'm interested in picking up a set. i don't really want to run my 3s too much. i'd rather replace the stockers after they break once and not keep replacing the stockers.

[Pede Pede]

I have Xduty's on my Pede and although I only run on 2s I love'em! They sure feel heavy duty when you hold them.

[asheck]

I only wonder about the rear carriers because the come with back ups.

They aren't back ups, they are different toe-settings, .5 degree, or 1.5, which is stock. I went for the .5, because I want it to track like a MT They also let you change your steering arm locations, and have alot more mounting spots. When I go to switch mine on the Slash, I'll take a picture of the stock stuff next to the Tekno's.

No need to worry about me, I'm pretty used to being an oddball with my choice of setups. But there is one thing I learned on here along time ago, what works best for me, might not work best for you. Not only that, but what works for doing this, might not be great at doing that. Also, sometimes the best, isn't the best for what you're doing. Oh yeah, there is nothing that is bullet proof, and every motor can run hot.

[efarrell]

anyone have any input? what did you use?

question about thread lock...or loctie


anything specific i should use? Any loctite from the local hardware store work?

What about greasing......anything specific?

[rd1201]

anyone have any input? what did you use?

I use blue loctite.

[pavmentsurfer]

Blue Loctite (I only use brand name Loctite) is removable... but will work great on a grub screw... red Loctite is permanent (or VERY difficult to remove) and can lead to striped grub screws because its so hard to remove.

But like choppermech said... loctite only works when you let it dry completely. So dont think you can just get the shafts, install with loctite and head out for a spin. You really need to let it sit over night.

[asheck]

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Here's a pic of the Tekno stuff, with the stock stuff. For some reason after posting 1000's of pictures, I can't get it to resize right.

[Pede Pede]

Blue Loctite (I only use brand name Loctite) is removable... but will work great on a grub screw... red Loctite is permanent (or VERY difficult to remove) and can lead to striped grub screws because its so hard to remove

Ha!, I used red loctite on mine! I was too paranoid about loosing a grub screw while bashing. Will do the same for my Slash.

[Matthew_Armeni]

Just to clarify, our hubs have built in toe that, when combined with the Slash/Pedes 2.5 degrees of toe on the arm mounts, allows you to run 1, 2, 3, or 4 degrees of toe in the rear.

[pavmentsurfer]

"our" as in you work for Tekno? Cause it would be cool to have someone from the company here on the forums to help with questions.

[asheck]

There is someone from Tekno on the forums, I've seen them on the Slash 4x4 , but I don't think he's the one I've seen in the past.

[ksb51rl]

Blue Loctite (I only use brand name Loctite) is removable... but will work great on a grub screw... red Loctite is permanent (or VERY difficult to remove) and can lead to stripped grub screws because its so hard to remove...

True, but if you are able to heat the area, like with a lighter or possibly even a heat gun, the red can be rendered ineffectual.
Blue is removable with hand tools.
Red is removable with heat and hand tools. DON'T do this in the living room - there WILL be smoke.

Edit: My machinist contact informs me that "Hernon" brand kicks the stuffing out of "Loctite" brand. I haven't been able to find it so I use Loctite.

[Apexracing]

good info on that hernon brand ill have to look online thanks. how come traxxas doesnt include a small tube of thread locker with their kits that would be nice. or shock oil for that matter.

[pavmentsurfer]

I installed the MIP HD driveshafts front and rear last night and ran them today. Theyre great. I didnt bash the crap out of it like I usually do... just some high speed running and jumping on the lake... worked great. The install was pretty simple.
The shafts ARE pretty heavy but I like that they are super beefy. I think these things are gonna last really well. I DID notice a tiny bit of rubbing of the rear shafts on the RPM arms but it worked itself out after a few minutes.

[Matthew_Armeni]

"our" as in you work for Tekno? Cause it would be cool to have someone from the company here on the forums to help with questions.

Sorry for the late response, I haven't been as active on the Traxxas forums as I need to be. Yes, I do work for Tekno RC. The other representative on the forums is teknorc (that's his username). I plan to check the forums daily and will offer any help or assistance I can.