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    Someone please tell me why this is in such a small scale? The smaller vehicles are such a pain to work on and are so sensitive to overtaking large obstacles.I have been through this with two traxxas vehicles so far. Mini slash wasn't big enough so I bought a full size,Merv wasn't big enough so I bought a full size.I'm sure my luck after I buy this a 1/10 scale will be released. I'll just wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksb51rl
    Tired of this. If anybody thinks "Rally" means dirt only, check the following photos of WRC cars. The "R" stands for "RALLY."





    Now check out the video of one of the former crowd-favorite "tarmac specialist":
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lycIaNMfc
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    http://www.rallyracc.com/2010/ingles/noticia1021.html
    Quoted from the spanish wrc sanctioning group
    "The RACC looked into the new elements that could be introduced in this edition, using the widest freedom provided by the FIA to organisers this season, in order to let the WRC recover the popularity that rallies had always enjoyed, i.e to include new elements that would increase selectivity and expectation"
    "The Rally de España intends to continue being an asphalt event, but providing the special element of the mixed layout. During the first Day, the drivers will run three completely new special stages making up a really mixed layout, as two of them will include gravel and asphalt sections and the third will be exclusively on gravel."
    It's a asphalt course because they don't have dirt AND they are adding gravel (offroad) because nobody was interested in rally cars on the roads.

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    "Change of gravel settings to asphalt settings. The mixed surface - mainly gravel - on the first day will force the teams to start with gravel settings and change them at the end of the day to the usual asphalt specifications, a fact that will also involve huge logistic and technical activity in the PortAventura Service Park, as in the initially planned 45' minutes they will have to change suspensions, brakes and wheels, an image that had never been seen before in the Spanish round."
    It's alot of info but all relevent, they have to change all of the main components of the car between events
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    Was there an actual reason for the post above? I think we get your point that you aren't happy with the Rally. As was advised before, get over it.
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    There wasn't a point for 4tec's post above, his position has been stated. Rally takes place on any surface that has checkpoint-to-checkpoint racing, so yes this is a rally car. Many people automatically assume rally=dirt, which is not always the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksb51rl
    Was there an actual reason for the post above? I think we get your point that you aren't happy with the Rally. As was advised before, get over it.
    The reason was you are posting to a link about that course in spain that needed to be changed because it's wierd characteristics of being asphalt only and nobody like it.
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    Japan, Germany, Monte Carlo... Spain isn't the only asphalt or partial asphalt Rally. You recognize each photo is from Spain? I don't think so.
    Now you're arguing for it's own sake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedemall
    Someone please tell me why this is in such a small scale? The smaller vehicles are such a pain to work on and are so sensitive to overtaking large obstacles.I have been through this with two traxxas vehicles so far. Mini slash wasn't big enough so I bought a full size,Merv wasn't big enough so I bought a full size.I'm sure my luck after I buy this a 1/10 scale will be released. I'll just wait.
    It is a rally car why are you worried about if it goes over large obstacles. Last time i check rally cars don't go over large obstacles

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    rally body/ rally tires/ rally suspension = RALLY CAR!
    totally agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeusOverAll
    So that drifting stuff ken block does is not really a form of rally.
    It's a form of special stage with a "little" bit of show off

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    I stop using my Mini slash in the dirt/sand because too many pebbles were getting in place that it would grind parts down or lock the center drive shaft. So I decided to make it street and some dirt rc. I added fuel tubing in the shock to lower it, some low profile tires and a wing. I can take turns now with out rolling it once. Still goes on dirt roads just can't go off big jumps. Will post pic

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    This is a rally car if basing off of Traxxas's info. It's not a drifter b/c it's no dedicated to only drifting. A drifter can only drift. It's not a touring car b/c it's not design to handle corners very fast. It's a on-road rally b/c it's can cut corners, drift and fly down the straights. Rally does not mean dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ksb51rl
    Japan, Germany, Monte Carlo... Spain isn't the only asphalt or partial asphalt Rally. You recognize each photo is from Spain? I don't think so.
    Now you're arguing for it's own sake.
    Please, stop.
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    Lemme leave this right here from the other thread...


    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoPunk
    Big thanks go to Traxxas!....Excellent job!

    1. For the last 2 years or so I've been bugging Traxxas to come out with a rally car...and I've seen many of you chime in. It's nice to know that Traxxas reads the forums and takes us seriously.

    2. I know it's been said that it's more like a carpet racer than a rally car. Keep this in mind, they say it on the front page, "Experience Rally Driving Excitement, Gymkhana Style!"...and look at the video...gymkhana cars are set up as tarmac rally cars. Stock, this is set up as a tarmac rally car...

    Here is Richard Burns' Subaru in two different rallies...one tarmac set up and one off road set up...

    http://www.aia.tartu.ee/~indrek/rall...katal_2000.jpg

    http://www.aia.tartu.ee/~indrek/rall...safari2000.jpg

    The Traxxas rally car is set up like the first image...it's our fun job to mod the car to add the clearance like the second image. I'm down with that! It looks like it wouldn't take much to raise the clearance that much.

    3. I think with little work, there could totally be a new Gymkhana type class. It would take a serious amount of skill to do Gymkhana courses in an RC. (that leaves me out )


    BIG thanks Traxxas...!

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    ...we *do* however need actual rally tires...


    ...then find a Subaru GC body to match my real rallyx car....whoohooo.

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    This is what the Traxxas Rally VXL is for
    Evo VI Cusco (Gymkhana Battle)

    Guest Driver Ken Block runs American Gymkhana

    @ Emaxx2,0.. Rally just means a form of special stage..It's not EXCLUSIVE to on road

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhotoPunk
    Lemme leave this right here from the other thread...







    ...we *do* however need actual rally tires...


    ...then find a Subaru GC body to match my real rallyx car....whoohooo.

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    who hoo. Im'a go for some rally block tires and some nitro 4tech tire's and some well you get the picture. Need lot'so tires for all types of on and off road groomed race tracks. rally racing at its best. I know this thing is a street rally. But come on really guy's. 4x4 slash lowered still works off the beaten trail. let's just give this lil fella a chance...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnoopMaxx
    This is what the Traxxas Rally VXL is for
    Evo VI Cusco (Gymkhana Battle)

    Guest Driver Ken Block runs American Gymkhana

    @ Emaxx2,0.. Rally just means a form of special stage..It's not EXCLUSIVE to on road

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    Jeesh. Is Gymkhana the only thing you guys know how to link to. There are like 10 youtube links in here to Gymkhana rally/drifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeusOverAll
    Jeesh. Is Gymkhana the only thing you guys know how to link to. There are like 10 youtube links in here to Gymkhana rally/drifting.
    LOL no but it's labelled as a Gymkhana style Rally car


    And now for something completely different

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    It's just a name, what traxxas decided to call the vehicle after what was probably months of surveys and research. I have a Slash, by no means does my vehicle stand in the shadows and prey on the unsuspecting....... or does it?
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    Rally is deffinitelly not only Tarmac...



    And I'd like to see scale bodies BTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmaxx_cnd_newb

    And I'd like to see scale bodies BTW
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    This is clearly a product that Traxxas hopes will continue the mini-revo platform. First the Mini Slash and Mini Revo were released with Brushed and Brushless motors. Now they slightly modify the Mini Slash and a new body and you have a Rally car. I was trying to do this with my Mini Slash since I got it but now it will be easy. The Rally VXL is a Mini-Slash with 10th scale wheels a new front bumper, stiffer springs and body mounts.

    When you look at the various springs available for this chassis it is fantastic. You have 4 spring rates for the Mini-Slash that make up the soft end, 4 Spring rates for the Mini-Revo the make up the mid stiffness, and now the new spring for the Rally VXL to make up the hardest spring. I could see enthusiests and racers modifying their spring rates to a given track to achieve what they want.

    I converted my Mini Slash to a low CG half 8th scale like buggy for carpet racing. I created a chassis like the Gorillamaxx G3 for Revo and this car is on rails on carpet or asphalt. A Rally version of this car will be fantastic.




    I will be talking to my local Carpet track to create Rally superspecial racing now that this car has been released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3_rolls
    I like the file name on the photos. DONKMINISLASH
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeusOverAll
    Still looks high.
    Oh man, it handles great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stockslasher
    This is clearly a product that Traxxas hopes will continue the mini-revo platform. First the Mini Slash and Mini Revo were released with Brushed and Brushless motors. Now they slightly modify the Mini Slash and a new body and you have a Rally car. I was trying to do this with my Mini Slash since I got it but now it will be easy. The Rally VXL is a Mini-Slash with 10th scale wheels a new front bumper, stiffer springs and body mounts.

    When you look at the various springs available for this chassis it is fantastic. You have 4 spring rates for the Mini-Slash that make up the soft end, 4 Spring rates for the Mini-Revo the make up the mid stiffness, and now the new spring for the Rally VXL to make up the hardest spring. I could see enthusiests and racers modifying their spring rates to a given track to achieve what they want.

    I converted my Mini Slash to a low CG half 8th scale like buggy for carpet racing. I created a chassis like the Gorillamaxx G3 for Revo and this car is on rails on carpet or asphalt. A Rally version of this car will be fantastic.




    I will be talking to my local Carpet track to create Rally superspecial racing now that this car has been released.
    Now that is neat. Great job.

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    So how will this perform on regular concrete streets?
    too rough and so no drifting?

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    Tumbeling over?

    What would happen with the Rally on touringcar 'high grip' tires, no 'gymkhana' driving, just grip!

    I own the 1/16 onroad carbon street/ low center off gravity slash on this forum. I got realy frustated because off tumbeling over by high speed cornering. That was at last solved with my last mod, by making a custom engine mount/ dropping the (standard-) brushless engine as low possible.

    So would this car also get frustated when you try to keep up the tricked out tt01's or more box standard 1/10 2-cell lipo 10,5T touringcars from X-ray, TC, etc? Just lowering, that's the trick for mini revo's and high grip tires, lowering my slash didn't do the job for me...

    And is 'gymkhana' driving the way to go for the Rally, just slide. If so and when a competition 'gymkhana' (high speed drifting is the same thing?) is started up it would would be a lot off fun/ a spectacle!
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    have any of you guys even driven the rally car yet i owen one. it only does good on dirt but on gravel or anything along thoes lines you get no traction it take alot of work to put it on carpet... otherwise it is worth it

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    The rally with high quality tires...

    ..this 'rally' does do carpet or tarmac just like a touring 1/10. Tires, lrp (x30), RP 30GL, CQ foam tires, they all fit and give good results. The CQ's 26mm front shore 26 and 30mm shore 28 I like the most overal, good handeling on carpet and tarmac.







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    maybe this is something like what traxxas had in mind when they made this thing,
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbCIF...eature=channel

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    hey guys let me simplify this for you

    it looks like a rally car, so it is a rally car
    it has insane power to weight ratio, just like a rally car
    a drifter cant rally against awd rally cars cus drifters are rwd, traditionally rwd rally is much slower...
    this car can rally, road race, drift, or jump.
    its all up to you the buyer, and how you set it up.

    if you have ever owned a mini you would already know this,
    lets put it this way, who cares! buy one itll be a blast!
    for 290 bux and at tower with a 60 off coupon you can get 3 extra batts for the same 290, and run it all day long

    i for one will be buying one asap to join my slash and mini
    and yes give traxxas some time and im sure they do a 1/10 rally version using the slash 4x4 chassis

    oh and trust me there will be bodies and tires available for this car. give it time
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    LOL you edited your post to include what I
    was gonna say regarding RWD and 4WD rally cars compared to drifters

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnoopMaxx
    LOL you edited your post to include what I
    was gonna say regarding RWD and 4WD rally cars compared to drifters

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    lol, yea, i forgot for a minute they have 2wd rally classes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedemall
    Someone please tell me why this is in such a small scale? The smaller vehicles are such a pain to work on and are so sensitive to overtaking large obstacles.I have been through this with two traxxas vehicles so far. Mini slash wasn't big enough so I bought a full size,Merv wasn't big enough so I bought a full size.I'm sure my luck after I buy this a 1/10 scale will be released. I'll just wait.
    I think the smaller vehicles are coming out in such abundance because it allows people to still have great performance and lots of speed, at a great price. Much cheaper than the larger vehicles. It's the reason I own a mini revo. I had been drooling over the e-revo for quite some time, but just couldn't swing it financially. Then the minerevo came out at just 300 dollars, while still giving me good handling, wheelies, 50 mph, jumping ability, and some offroading, as long as the grass isn't too tall.

    In this economy, people are just more reluctant to spend much money on unnecessary things. Pack a lot of performance in a small package, and give a lower price than the bigger brothers, it's gonna keep on selling. It's why I got my mini revo, and am thinking about getting a stampede 4x4 instead of a new e-maxx.
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    Cool Reality of Rally

    I think there are alot of misconceptions on what rally is here... you have to think scale... this is not a 1/16th scale... more of a 1/12, so if a fullsize rally car can go over a jump at 60 mph that is probably a 3 foot roller then that is the equivalent of a 3 inch jump at scale... I assure you the rally can handle that with all the same grace as a fullsize rally car handles the big roller ( even if occasionally tumbling and flipping like the real cars)

    here is a link to ken block crashing and as they try and put him back on the track he gets stuck on the lip on the side of the road... probably 6 inch lip...
    re-evaluate what you think rally is and how rough you think the rally tracks are people

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF6wekJzKX8
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    that car was odviously set up for an on road portion of the rally if you are not aware the cars go through different stages where the mechanics team has a few hours in between trials to modify the car (lift ride height, stiffer suspention, tires etc.)
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    WRC Rally Catalunya 2010 (which is where nurm's video comes from) is ideal for people who are doubting that this is a Rally car. The first day was run on gravel roads, rough gravel roads. The cars had fairly high ground clearance, longer travel suspension, different differential, different brakes due to smaller wheels for the gravel tyres which have larger sidewalls. Then the cars had to be transformed in just 75 minutes, Yes 75 minutes into the tarmac set up. The video I've linked gives an overview of the first day, and then shows the transformation of the car.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UClDs...eature=related

    The video is 13mins long, but you only have to watch the first 1:33 to see the transformation.


    Traxxas clearly have thought about this when using the Revo platform. In it's lowered states you get a tarmac set up, but you've got a huge amount of suspension adjustment available to you to alter the car. By adding harder compound tyres, and calling it a Gymkhana Rally car, they have made a um Gymkhana Rally car. As with the 1:1's, set them up as you please to suit your needs

    Quote Originally Posted by nurm
    I think there are alot of misconceptions on what rally is here... you have to think scale... this is not a 1/16th scale... more of a 1/12, so if a fullsize rally car can go over a jump at 60 mph that is probably a 3 foot roller then that is the equivalent of a 3 inch jump at scale... I assure you the rally can handle that with all the same grace as a fullsize rally car handles the big roller ( even if occasionally tumbling and flipping like the real cars)

    here is a link to ken block crashing and as they try and put him back on the track he gets stuck on the lip on the side of the road... probably 6 inch lip...
    re-evaluate what you think rally is and how rough you think the rally tracks are people

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF6wekJzKX8

    On the subject of jumping, I remembered a crazy jump I saw a while back. After some digging I found the vid. This isn't your average 3 foot roller jump Man it must have hurt!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOe_tFIxnKY

    Love the way yesterdays pace notes come flying into the front of the car. Keep you junk tied down people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nurm
    I think there are alot of misconceptions on what rally is here... you have to think scale... this is not a 1/16th scale... more of a 1/12, so if a fullsize rally car can go over a jump at 60 mph that is probably a 3 foot roller then that is the equivalent of a 3 inch jump at scale... I assure you the rally can handle that with all the same grace as a fullsize rally car handles the big roller ( even if occasionally tumbling and flipping like the real cars)
    Yup, I don't know where people get these wild ideas - other than they have some warped idea of reality.
    But then again, so many of the RC tracks today are out of reality too. You didn't see any motocross-style 20-foot big-air jumps back 20 years ago, but it seems the people today (for some odd reason) like to fix-&-repair-thier-cars-daily don't mind them too much.

    But the reality is, that other than that ridiculous x-games stuff every summer, no other "regular" rally event has big-air - the cars aren't designed or intended for it, and neither are these.

    Our track built a second track this year, specifically for shortcourse trucks, and by the end of the season people also started showing up with their 2wd buggies too (since the track was more user-friendly, no longer full of car-breaking jumps) - and my guess is that these Rally's will be able to handle that track too.

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    Rally fans unite

    I am a big rally fan and excited about the rally, look at other rally rc videos on youtube and see how poorly the super scale vehicle...tamiyas etc handle on the very non bumpy roads. Its good to know that like in real racing the cars are going to take a beating and with the way traxxas builds em they will take it no problem, so yeah you might have to swap out tires to go on some gnarly roads, but guess what, real rally cars do that too, and chances are for full on realism you'll have to adjust your shocks etc.

    this car will be alot of fun, I look forward to getting some snow rally vids up once it begins to dump on me here in Minnesota
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    Quote Originally Posted by mini-robbie
    Yup, I don't know where people get these wild ideas - other than they have some warped idea of reality.
    But then again, so many of the RC tracks today are out of reality too. You didn't see any motocross-style 20-foot big-air jumps back 20 years ago, but it seems the people today (for some odd reason) like to fix-&-repair-thier-cars-daily don't mind them too much.

    But the reality is, that other than that ridiculous x-games stuff every summer, no other "regular" rally event has big-air - the cars aren't designed or intended for it, and neither are these.

    Our track built a second track this year, specifically for shortcourse trucks, and by the end of the season people also started showing up with their 2wd buggies too (since the track was more user-friendly, no longer full of car-breaking jumps) - and my guess is that these Rally's will be able to handle that track too.
    That's the type of track we have used here all the time

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    as a rally driver i would call this a rally car
    its just out of the box "set up" for tarmac
    gravel or offroad will require a different shock set up and tyre combo
    what i would like however is a way to lock up the back wheels (like my hydraulic handbrake) , and more realistic skidplates for offroad
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