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    My Yellow BackSlash 4x4

    Hello Guys,

    Long time ago, I did the BackSlash project and I liked it a lot!!!

    Now, I'm working on the BackSlash 4x4 project and this is what I have so far...



    I know many of you will say "why", well, I just like to modify my trucks...

    Hope you like it, more soon!!!

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    Looks good enough for Traxxas to sell! One question, why is the buggy conversion called "Backslash"?

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    Thanks! That's the name TheJANG came up with when he first did the original BackSlash from a Slash...

    Maybe because a slash is this / and a backslash is this \ on a keyboard, nice thinking if you ask me...

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    Works for me!

    I went the other way and made mine a monster truck. I'm loving it.

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    Looks great so far! Can't wait to see it finished!

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    looks good! im waiting to see a body
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottStaypuff
    One question, why is the buggy conversion called "Backslash"?
    I was trying to figure out what a catchy name would be for the new Buggy/Slash concoction I had come up with, and as I broke the words apart, B-Slash, Backlash, Backslash! It just worked.

    Daniel: Looking good so far!!
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    Not really a buggy guy myself, but I do have to say that you have a great base for a 4X4 buggy. I don't understand why Traxxas never entered that market, and don't call the Bandit an entry The Slash and now 4X4 Slash are excelent platforms for 1:8 buggy's. Looking forward to seeing more pics as you complete it.
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    What wheels and shock parts are those? did you need a wheel adapter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjl
    What wheels and shock parts are those? did you need a wheel adapter?
    Wheels: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXHMH1&P=7
    Tires: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXNPN6&P=ML

    Shocks are the stock ones with BadHorsie's shock covers (www.badhorsie.com) and RPM spring cups and spring clips...

    Spring Cups: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRL99&P=7
    Spring Clips: http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXRL96&P=7

    And, yes, you need a wheel adapter, I chose the ones from ST Racing Concept (www.teamstrc.com)... Worked good for me on my other BackSlash...






    If you need anything else, just let me know...

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    what are you going to do for a wing?
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    I already have a Pro-Line 1/8 high downforce yellow wing, and a few wing mounts (tekno, hpi, hotbodies, ofna), but I haven't decided which one to use yet...

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    It would look better if you guys doing these conversions wouldn't mount the body to the shock towers. 1/8 scale buggy bodies mount to the chassis not the towers.

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    what body would be used for backslash?
    what wing and mount would be used?
    why need adapters?
    arent their wheels out there that fit direct?

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    For folks new to the concept & asking repeat questions, ideas:

    http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=503839

    (One wing mount possibility is shown a few posts down.)


    Original 2WD version (same wheels/tires/body/adapters):

    http://www.ultimatetraxxas.com/projects/backslash/


    Daniel: Most folks I've seen try STRC adapters have ended up getting rid of them due fitment & self-disassembly issues (see here). You've had no issues though? Have you used any tricks to make them work better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheJANG
    Daniel: Most folks I've seen try STRC adapters have ended up getting rid of them due fitment & self-disassembly issues (see here). You've had no issues though? Have you used any tricks to make them work better?
    The only thing I changed on the adapters is the pin... Instead of the classic pin and a screw, I'm using a screw pin (I got them from two Revo FOC kits)...

    The first picture is stock, the second one is what I'm using...



    I never had a problem with them, and I used blue threadlock on them... I also used blue threadlock on the main thread/nut... Maybe, I wasn't hard enough on them...

    If anyone is interested in more information, this was my first 4x2 BackSlash project: http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=459369

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    Well, I'm trying new wheels and tires today... Street tires this time...



    Hope you like it so far...

    Daniel.

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    Looks great! Just ordered the yellow splits for my mt build. Like how the bad horsie covers match the ofna plastic. Let me know if you find a paint match for the rims/covers. I will be using tamiya spray cans for my mt build paints. Thanks!
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    Excellent, thanks!
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    You should also use American change for size comparison, lol. 99% of us have no Idea how big those coins are!
    Never the less KILLER MOD! How effective are the shock covers, or more for looks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxson11
    You should also use American change for size comparison, lol. 99% of us have no Idea how big those coins are!
    Still wating for someone to send me one... But, it's like my watermark...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxson11
    How effective are the shock covers, or more for looks?
    Those shock covers are great! I have them in all my trucks and they avoid dirt just fine! They also look cool!

    --------------------------------------------------

    And, here's a question about the shocks... I'm going to use this truck only on pavement (yes, I know, don't ask), so, this is what I was thinking about the springs taking into account that the back will support the weight from the wing...

    * At the front, the stock progressive springs from the back...
    * At the back, the progressive springs from a T-Maxx/E-Maxx...
    * Shock oil, maybe 50wt for both???

    What do you think, will this work ok???

    Also, I'll get sway bars as soon as they are available cheap...

    Thanks!

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    The 'Maxx progressive springs work well at the back. I don't know about using the rear springs up front though. Those rear springs are just so soft at first. Once the softer coils are compressed, the second stage could be good for pavement running. It's definitely worth a try, since those are free! What you'll want to watch out for is diving under braking and in off-throttle turns. Use the outer holes on both the shock tower and arms up front to help stiffen them up and also limit your droop for a bit of anti-sway effect.
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    Cool!!! I'll try that... And, just to show what I'm talking about, these are the springs...

    From left to right: Maxx, Slash Back, Slash Front...



    I think the truck is too heavy for the stock springs, even with the stock parts...

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    Well, I was working a little on my yellow BackSlash when I noticed two things that I didn't like at all (talking about bad desings)...

    First, if you're thinking of using a MMM and a new receiver box on the front, the servo wires gets compressed a lot between the servo case and the receiver box... Even if you try to get the wires to go upwards, same thing...



    Second, what's with the slop on the center driveshaft???



    Well, I'll post mode pictures soon, I'm stuck making both plates for the wing mount...

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    I'd be more worried about the driveshaft slop, seeing it as how I don't modify my motors to huge ones very much.

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    Yesterday, I upgraded the slipper to the one from the Revo...



    I think it's a nice and cheap upgrade...

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    I installed the bigger slipper too. It I used the lower pin hole on the shaft(closer to front), but the rear part of the slipper assemble was hitting the plastic housing. Didn't really cause any issue except an annoying knocking noise and scratched the inside of the housing. I figured that my Dremmel could would be able to fix it but never got around to it. I reinstalled the stock for the time being, did you have the same issue with the bigger slipper?
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    Who are you getting most of your parts from? It's got to be tough getting them all the way to Argentina isn't it? Nice build by the way, looks good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielhr77
    Second, what's with the slop on the center driveshaft???
    Chassis flex, real buggies have the same with their dogbones.
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    Well, I'm working on the front and rear replacements for the skids/bumpers right now... I didn't want to dremel the stock skids, so, I will have them machine in aluminum...

    I will also use the front driveshafts and axle carriers at the back, kind of like the Revo or the T-Maxx... I'm still trying to figure it out, but it will work...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxson11
    I installed the bigger slipper too. It I used the lower pin hole on the shaft(closer to front), but the rear part of the slipper assemble was hitting the plastic housing. Didn't really cause any issue except an annoying knocking noise and scratched the inside of the housing. I figured that my Dremmel could would be able to fix it but never got around to it. I reinstalled the stock for the time being, did you have the same issue with the bigger slipper?
    No so far, I'm using the stock spur, but I'll let you know if I hear that noice...

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH 补共
    Who are you getting most of your parts from? It's got to be tough getting them all the way to Argentina isn't it?
    90% from eBay, there are many excellent sellers there... And, the other 10% from TowerHobbies and sites like that... And, believe it or not, it's not that hard, it usually takes between 5 to 15 days for a package to arrive using USPS First Class International Mail... I'm pretty happy with the international mail, that's why I have like 30 trucks, it's easy to get them here...

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSH 补共
    Nice build by the way, looks good.
    Thanks! I'll try to finish it asap, work (VoIP) is keeping me busy these days...

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    when i got into traxxas, i thought slashes were the ugliest things alive. then with the 4x4, i was just ehh about it. then i saw some backslashes....this makes me want to get one to zip around the road track
    what was that? what was what..oh that. thats mine.

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    i'm just waiting for the 1st buggy body....someone will have to make some new body mounts though...
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    I'm a little behind the schedule with this project, mainly because of the front and rear bumpers... I was trying to make something nice in aluminum to replace them...

    But, today RPM release a three part front bumper... I will use only the part on the upper left side as a front bumper...



    Hope they release a rear bumper I can use in this project...

    PS: I'm also working on a MT Slash 4x4, similar to the one The Jang did...

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    I'm putting this project on hold for a few weeks until RPM releases the front and rear bumpers...

    Time to work on my MT Slash 4x4...

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    Today, I got the front RPM bumper from eBay (TeamGoNads)...

    Will be here in one or two weeks...

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    Hey Guys,

    Well, I got the front and rear bumpers from RPM, and now I'm a little closer to finish this project...

    First, the front bumper that has three parts, and I will only use this one...



    And, the other two I will not use...



    Second, the rear bumper that has five parts, and I will only use this one...



    Adding two wheels we have a wheelie bar...



    And, the other four I will not use...



    I'll install them today and post more pictures...

    Hope you like it so far...

    Daniel.
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    Well, the installation was pretty fast and easy...

    A look from the bottom...



    And, a look from the top...



    I might consider adding the small front bumper from a Stampede to that front bumper mount...

    Also, for your information...



    Coming next, the wing mount plate!!!

    Daniel.

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    Well, I didn't quite like the wheelie bar I made for my BackSlash 4x4, so I went ahead and built a new one...

    I think this is the first true wheelie bar for a Slash 4x4 / BackSlash 4x4... (Traxxas can copy my design if I can meet Mike Jenkins in person)...

    This is what you need...



    And, this is how it looks like assembled...



    Hope you like it...

    Daniel.

    PS: I'm not complaining, but over 2100 views and so few comments...

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    that wheelie bar looks great... did it mount right up or did you have to shave the bumper mounts?

    good work!
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    Yes, it mounted right up without any modifications...

    Just love it!!!

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    Nice build thread. Awsome work and great execusion on problem solving.Nice modded backslash.Might have to try one of these one day soon.
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