Love this truck!

[Emaxx2.0]

Well, last week my Uncle got me a Slash as an gift( love to tell you from but just can't). This Slash is even more special for that reason. Out of the box this truck comes with something the others don't(yet). I ran the truck and just fell in love. So much in love I will be selling alot of my Rc cars(including my E-maxx). I at first wanted a cool looking basher with the ability to race mods. Well, I got to thinking and sometimes slow is just more fun then crazy fast. I'm building my Slash for the hiking trails. I'm looking forward to getting it hopped up. Buying a aluminium tranny case(Thankyou Dad for the FLM decision) and Traxxas big boreshock kit right off the bat.
Now lets talk motors. I'm kind of confused for the most part when it comes to this application. I understand Kv sensored/sensorless. I want alot of low-end torque(not a wheelie monster but a motor that doesn't bog down under load) but has some good amount of speed( like the stock titan). Should I go brush or brushless for this application? Should I go sensored or sensorless and if so which motor?
Just can't wait to get this project going.

[Emaxx2.0]

Here is a list of parts I'm going to get. Hopefully I can get it as an early B-day gift
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ub=View%20Cart

[throwinrox]

I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

Well, last week my Uncle got me a Slash as an gift( love to tell you from but just can't).

So are you gonna tell us what the truck came with that the others don't come with yet? And your shopping cart is empty so I can't see your parts list.

I love this truck too. It is the first car I have gotten in 13 years and now I am hooked. I just bought the Baja bug lid, paddles, wheels, 4th replacement spur gear and the RPM spur gear cover. Next I am going to try the Hobbywing EZRun brushless.

[jsj1982]

sensorless unless you plan on racing roar spec.(which it doesnt seem like you will) here is the easiest way to narrow it down,will it be going in water? if yes then stay away from brushless i ruinied one its no fun. the stock motor works great and is waterproof. now if you plan on keeping it dry you will love brushless motors. the traxxas kit is great. the esc is waterproof so you can easily swap motors to a brushed for water play. next choice is the castle creation sidewinder w/ 4600 motor. great balence of speed and torque. you will see great speed increase and longer runtimes. its worth it.

[Emaxx2.0]

I don't quite understand what you are saying here.

So are you gonna tell us what the truck came with that the others don't come with yet? And your shopping cart is empty so I can't see your parts list.

I love this truck too. It is the first car I have gotten in 13 years and now I am hooked. I just bought the Baja bug lid, paddles, wheels, 4th replacement spur gear and the RPM spur gear cover. Next I am going to try the Hobbywing EZRun brushless.

https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ub=View%20Cart
It's Traxxas Big bore shocks and mostly ST Racing gun metal aluminium hop ups.

[Emaxx2.0]

sensorless unless you plan on racing roar spec.(which it doesnt seem like you will) here is the easiest way to narrow it down,will it be going in water? if yes then stay away from brushless i ruinied one its no fun. the stock motor works great and is waterproof. now if you plan on keeping it dry you will love brushless motors. the traxxas kit is great. the esc is waterproof so you can easily swap motors to a brushed for water play. next choice is the castle creation sidewinder w/ 4600 motor. great balence of speed and torque. you will see great speed increase and longer runtimes. its worth it.

Been running brushless/lipo for over 4years. I'm use to speed or racing. Sadly my Traxxas VXL connector got seperated from the boards. But this application relies on torque and runtime.

[88gators325]

only you can view the cart, not us, to us it is what we have in it, and if nothing at all, then empty. just press 'Prt Scr' and go to paint and paste, then save as. then of course upload it to photobucket. but strc is great, nothing wrong with that, love their parts. dont have any on my slash yet, but have them on my WK, and my friend was driving it and said its a rock racer, so he went full speed with it over the rocks (he had a tmaxx, but sold it shortly after this incident, because nitro cost too much for him) and bent my front left upgraded RC4WD shock and broke the strc front left lower link! ugh, a rock racer means you go as fast as you can over the rocks (time wise not speed wise! i just cant believe it, because he blamed it on me! well i already saw how it broke before i drove it again after he did! oh well, still hate the fact, but their parts are excellent, the only reason this part broke is because it was skinny where the ball end met). sorry for the long post.

[Emaxx2.0]

Thanks for letting me know about the link. I like the idea of it being a rock racer. I founds an know biking trail outside the park by me. This will be a great place to run this truck.

[88gators325]

yea, but you know florida, not many rocks. theres a little rock pile not too far from my house that i use to climb with my WK, but i havent used it in bout 6 months because ive had so much more fun with my slash! haha lol

[Emaxx2.0]

I have an acres of woods by my house. This freakin sand where I live just destroys everything and gets sooo messy.

[Dadx2mj]

Emaxx2.0 you know I favor Castle motors because of the bigger bearings and feel the VXL motor has too much torque for my application (Rusty) however in a Slash I think the VXL 3500 kv motor is a great match. The longer wheel base of the Slash allows it to actually use the gobs of torque the VXL has rather than be over powered by it like I feel the Rusty is.

[Emaxx2.0]

Dad, Thankyou for you recommendation. I think you're right. You think a crawler 21.5t sensored motor produce more low-end torque then the VXL? I not after speed but nothing slow like a crawler. I ruled out brushed altogther.

[88gators325]

21.5t is waaaaay too slow! it'll only go like 10mph! its pretty much equivalent to a 40t brushed motor, for crawlers. if you want more torque, get a CC MM or sidewinder and a Novak Havak 13.5t motor.

[Emaxx2.0]

I don't need a ESC to handle this lol. I have a Tekin Rs pro. I have no doubt the VXL produce the torque but I worry about top end at that point. I guess it's all about throttle control lol.

[88gators325]

oh yea thats right, but still i would go with the VXL or the havok 13.5t motor. why are you worried bout top end. you dont like it goin fast?

[Dadx2mj]

Emaxx2.0 I have no clue about the 21.5t sensored motor, I have NO experience with that type motor at all and dont think I have ever even seen one in action.

if you want more torque, get a CC MM or sidewinder and a Novak Havak 13.5t motor.

Like I already stated I am a big fan of Castle motors however when it comes to torque none of the Castle CM motors compare to the VXL motor for torque. I believe it is more due to the slightly longer can and rotor the VXL motor has rather than the kv rating. Either way the VXL 3500 is the King of torque in that class of motors in my opinion.

[Emaxx2.0]

This truck is going to be used for hiking trails. I do no want fast speed (35tops at most). I want alot of torque to climb over stuff. I understand that this isn't the perfect truck for this application but I'm not going to waste money on a summit and my E-maxx is expensive to run. Plus i love the realism the Slash gives. I realized how much easier it is to focus on one rc car then lets say the 9 i have ust in my room alone.

[Emaxx2.0]

Emaxx2.0 I have no clue about the 21.5t sensored motor, I have NO experience with that type motor at all and dont think I have ever even seen one in action.



Like I already stated I am a big fan of Castle motors however when it comes to torque none of the Castle CM motors compare to the VXL motor for torque. I believe it is more due to the slightly longer can and rotor the VXL motor has rather than the kv rating. Either way the VXL 3500 is the King of torque in that class of motors in my opinion.

Understood Dad. Any idea if I ran the VXL on training mode will is reduce the amount of torque I have? I might run the Rs pro(after I get it serviced for the sensored port failing but still runs sensorless fine) using the punch control and throttle curve. The VXL is a beast.

[Dadx2mj]

I am pretty sure Training mode only limits top speed and wont effect the low end punch from the torque of the motor. That being said a stock VXL system on a decent 6 cell nimh will give you right about the speed you are looking for (35-40 mph) and geared to give you more bottom end punch you should be right where you need to be with that set up.

[Emaxx2.0]

Looking into getting SPC lipos just for this. I really love this truck and simple is just better for me now. After trying also everything and getting burnt out on this hobby I finally found enjoyment again.

[asifjahmed]

Since Traxxas just released the new waterproof VXL system, why don't you go for that? It will have the best of both worlds. For low-end torque (which the Velineon motor has a lot of) just gear appropriately and then you will have a torquey, fast, waterproof beast!!

http://www.traxxas.com/scripts/trxne...php?newsid=217

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=TRAC3349tem

[Emaxx2.0]

I need to call Traxxas about getting my VXl ESC fixed. It's the older design where the motor plugs into the ESC. The connector on the board seperated.

[Emaxx2.0]

Well, I found a nice mountain bike trail by my house. The Slash will do perfectly out there. The VXL might be too fast but will have to wait and see. I walked the easy trail(there is a expert trail also) and it took 1hour and 30mins to completely walk. I think stock setup will be fine. Might need to raise the suspension.

[88gators325]

Since Traxxas just released the new waterproof VXL system, why don't you go for that? It will have the best of both worlds. For low-end torque (which the Velineon motor has a lot of) just gear appropriately and then you will have a torquey, fast, waterproof beast!!

http://www.traxxas.com/scripts/trxne...php?newsid=217

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=TRAC3349tem

only the ESC is waterproof, not the motor, and the best closet thing to have a waterproof motor is the CC 4600kv motor. CC seals their motors great. ive seen a couple videos of their motors in the water (like in a bucket completely) and it ran perfectly fine. now the VXL motors will take the ocasional splash, but wont go completely under water, just fine, that is to my understanding and IMO. but we'll just have to wait and see.

EDIT: oh yea, it was Dadx2 who posted one of those videos i remeber. if you still have it, can you post it up, thanks.

[Dadx2mj]

only the ESC is waterproof, not the motor, and the best closet thing to have a waterproof motor is the CC 4600kv motor. CC seals their motors great. ive seen a couple videos of their motors in the water (like in a bucket completely) and it ran perfectly fine. now the VXL motors will take the ocasional splash, but wont go completely under water, just fine, that is to my understanding and IMO. but we'll just have to wait and see.

EDIT: oh yea, it was Dadx2 who posted one of those videos i remeber. if you still have it, can you post it up, thanks.

I think you are mistaken, any brushless motor can run full submerged. It is not really good for the internals if the motor is not cleaned and lubed up afterward as the water and debris in the water will eventually do damage tot he bearings and other internals of the motor but they will all run under water

VIDEO LINK

[Emaxx2.0]

Well I threw in my Tekin Rs pro with the 8.5t just to try it out. It ran perfectly. Torque was just perfect and the speed wasn't silly fast. I walked the whole bike trail( little over 3hours) on a single charge. I'm running a Losi 2s 5000mah lipo. It was easily over 90degrees and everything ran coool. Gearing was 17/86. Ran into some problems with some sticks getting stuck in the rear skid plate and tranny. I think the RPM http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXXGT0&P=7 will fix that. I need to put some lexan shields for the suspension arms b/c again sticks where getting stuck. Locking the Diff would of helped but the truck did better then I thought. I was a great workout for me also lol. Looking forward to goin g out there again.

[Emaxx2.0]

Well bad news. I just realized I got a hole in my backpack. I lost alot of my tools and some wrenchs. Good thing I has extra AE hex drivers.

[nunster]

Emaxx just get a Novak Havoc 8.5. It is sensored so you can run at 1mph. And then with novak you have a lot more adjustability options. Throtle curve, brakes, how hard the motor kicks in and ext. It is really easy to program too. Basically same way as a stock slash. And then if you are going to be doing a lot of low speed. They have a nice cooling fin set up for the motor. But I think you would be more happy with the 10.5. The 8.5 is more for speed and will be a little harder to control over rocks.

[Emaxx2.0]

Emaxx just get a Novak Havoc 8.5. It is sensored so you can run at 1mph. And then with novak you have a lot more adjustability options. Throtle curve, brakes, how hard the motor kicks in and ext. It is really easy to program too. Basically same way as a stock slash. And then if you are going to be doing a lot of low speed. They have a nice cooling fin set up for the motor. But I think you would be more happy with the 10.5. The 8.5 is more for speed and will be a little harder to control over rocks.

I have the Tekin Rs pro. I can run sensored/sensorless or hybrid. It surpasses anything the Novak can do. My only problem was my sensored port fried on the Tekin(user erorr) so I had to run the 8.5t tekin(which is sensor base) in sensorless. If the sensor port failed on the Novak, I wouldn't beable to run the truck. I has some slight cogging once in awhile but once the motor got spinning everything was find. The torque was perfect and speed was enough to get uphills and easily cleared 15foot jumps. The truck ran great and did a 2hour hike on a single old losi 2s 5000mah lipo while I had my brandnew thunderpower 2s 40c 5000mah lipo as backup.
Thankyou for the suggestion.

[1slash]

wow so do you like the slash better than the e-maxx??

[Emaxx2.0]

Yes. Don't get me wrong I love the E-maxx but it's expensive to run(if you really want it to be a beast). For what I'm doing the Summit or the E-maxx(with locked diffs) would be better suited b/c of 4wd and higher ground clearence. But my Slash is just fun. I would like to get the new J-concept dare body, put LED lights on it and paint it up like a safari truck.

[Emaxx2.0]

Yes. Don't get me wrong I love the E-maxx but it's expensive to run(if you really want it to be a beast). For what I'm doing the Summit or the E-maxx(with locked diffs) would be better suited b/c of 4wd and higher ground clearence. But my Slash is just fun. I would like to get the new J-concept dare body, put LED lights on it and paint it up like a safari truck.

Plan on getting Full STRC hop-ups in gunmetal. FLM tranny in black and new stocks. I can't wait to get my Tekin fixed so I can finally run sensored again.

[1slash]

Plan on getting Full STRC hop-ups in gunmetal. FLM tranny in black and new stocks. I can't wait to get my Tekin fixed so I can finally run sensored again.

and you will want some rpm parts like Rear A-arms and front A-arms and a sealed Gear Cover and front and rear Bearing Carriers i have the Bearings and i go to the bmx track and i get huge air and never have i broken the Bearing Carrier

[Emaxx2.0]

I have the Rpm gear cover. The hub carriers are going to be aluminium form STRC. I'm like the stock A-arms b/c there isn't that much flex. Now, does anyone know what offset the rear assoicated sc10 wheels use and which Traxxas wheels matches it?

[Emaxx2.0]

I have the Rpm gear cover. The hub carriers are going to be aluminium form STRC. I'm like the stock A-arms b/c there isn't that much flex. Now, does anyone know what offset the rear assoicated sc10 wheels use and which Traxxas wheels matches it?

Any idea guys?

[Emaxx2.0]

Would these
http://www.prolineracing.com/p-540-b...t-or-rear.aspx
work on
http://www.prolineracing.com/p-613-e...-slash174.aspx

[1slash]

yes i think that would work

[Emaxx2.0]

You sure? They'll fit the theme.

[Emaxx2.0]

Would these
http://www.prolineracing.com/p-540-b...t-or-rear.aspx
work on
http://www.prolineracing.com/p-613-e...-slash174.aspx

Just a bump...really would like to know.