Pull Start YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

[harleydog8931]

I decided to go to a pull start after burning out the motor on the EZ. WOW !!!it is way better than the EZ, plus I only need the glow plug heater. Traxxas should dump the EZ.

[chau]

Glad you like pull start as much as I do. I don't think traxxas will ever dump EZ start though.

[shadow21]

Too much to lug around with ez start

[Rustlerman2.1]

Well but unless u are good at tuning a pulstart can be a pain. Beginners could pull for hours in thier climate and get no start

[djliquidice]

I went from EZ to bump and then to pull this spring. I am *not* going back to bump or EZ. As long as you get the engine primed and the glow plug hot, your engine should start within a few tugs.

Heck, my OS .18TZs both start very easily. My 3.3 rustler still has EZStart though. I don't mind leaving it on because the 3.3 engine is just crazy for that car.

[Desert JATO]

let me disagree with some of you guys
i don't believe that the ez start system is bad . in fact it's the most best convenient easy - headache free - method to start a nitro car.

& as said above, if there's any minor tuning issue, you'll cause yourself an enormous headache starting your car.

you can't compare a single finger method of starting to a two handed " work out " procedure that better to be described as B.C starting method

and BTW, don't believe those saying it's the method of experience guys
one video showed a well known guy trying to start his own jato with pull start
inside a ware house :

guess what ?
it started after 34 pulls
( imagine what would happened with normal guy at outside almost freezing temp ) ... that's with well experience hobbyist so what would happened with average guys ??

traxxas should be awarded by inventing the ez start system.
.. at the end the goal is starting a nitro car to enjoy it, so why on earth anyone chooses this annoying way( pull start ) .. even if it's a personal choice, i don't think that it's a good idea to advise average hobbyist with
unless they want to try 34+ pull times with the pull start
in the winter this figure should be tripled

[trx speed]

ok i can see where both of you are comgin from, honestly i think that traxxas should make 2 versions, one with pull start and the other with EZ start, i think that everyone would get what they really wanted.

p.s. what is bumpstart exactly?

[Desert JATO]

it's like this ( AKA starter box )
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMPP5&P=ML

when you place the jato on it it press on a button that makes the wheel
in the middle of the box rotate fast and by contacting with the flywheel at the bottom of the chassis it rotate the engine. but still you need a glow igniter for heat up the glow plug.

[GrimeFighter338]

let me disagree with some of you guys
i don't believe that the ez start system is bad . in fact it's the most best guess what ?
it started after 34 pulls
traxxas should be awarded by inventing the ez start system.

Agree.
After 10 pulls if it doesn't start, a tad bit of fuel from the fuel bottle into the carb does magic!
Same here. The pull start broke on my buddies car, so the EZ Start went back on (the black wire broke, so you have to hold it on) just hold the red button for the gp do get warm, tap the black wire, instant fire.
Only thing I dislike about pullstart is its a paint to rebuild/ repair it.

[rod1gram]

I decided to go to a pull start after burning out the motor on the EZ. WOW !!!it is way better than the EZ, plus I only need the glow plug heater. Traxxas should dump the EZ.

What about the blisters that everyone talks about w/ the pull start??

I think if you're new to the nitro world, your best friend is the ez-start ... because of the numerous false starts. Being new, you will probably run through 3 NiCad batteries (in one outing/run) on your ez-start which means ... that's A LOT of zapps

However, if you're a seasoned basher/racer, I could see where the pull start would be easier ... because highly experienced RC hobbyists know exactly what to do when the car cuts out on them first or second time around. So they're not out their pulling 60-70 times.

[amado814]

i never liked ez start since i relized im a slave to my battery and i always need electricity around me to charge i do like to be able to go out to the boonies and not worry about the condition of my batts

[DavidSee2]

Just curious with the pull-start. No one likes to have to charge a batt but you still have to have the glow-plug igniter. Either way there's always the batt issue.

[Desert JATO]

What about the blisters that everyone talks about w/ the pull start??

I think if you're new to the nitro world, your best friend is the ez-start ... because of the numerous false starts. Being new, you will probably run through 3 NiCad batteries (in one outing/run) on your ez-start which means ... that's A LOT of zapps

However, if you're a seasoned basher/racer, I could see where the pull start would be easier ... because highly experienced RC hobbyists know exactly what to do when the car cuts out on them first or second time around. So they're not out their pulling 60-70 times.

i'm charging my cheap Nicd batter a single time every other month, & it last with me for over a year

the highly experienced RC hobbyists fail 34 times to start his jato with pull start under room temp - not outside under extreme cold or hot weather -
.. i got the video if anyone wants the see it.
that's the highly experienced RC hobbyists faces : daily ordeal ! but no one is welling to admit that
believe me rod1gram, if we agree on the FACT that the GOAL is STARTING the nitro car, so the easiest way should be chosen..

for example, they don't ask any winner of race which method he used to start his car with....

Just curious with the pull-start. No one likes to have to charge a batt but you still have to have the glow-plug igniter. Either way there's always the batt issue.

that's 100% true.
the problem here is that some advises with what been advised with although it's a wrong idea.

[amado814]

or get the double a batt glow ignitor you always got them laying around

[RC_K1d]

Yes, but for the racer or someone who wants to go fast in a hurry, then the pull start is the way to go. Thats pretty much the whole attraction of the pull start. And you dont have to worry bout the glitches of the ez-start. My friend has a slayer and hasn't been able to run it in like a week because something is wrong with the ez-start...

[DavidSee2]

Yes, but for the racer or someone who wants to go fast in a hurry, then the pull start is the way to go. Thats pretty much the whole attraction of the pull start. And you dont have to worry bout the glitches of the ez-start. My friend has a slayer and hasn't been able to run it in like a week because something is wrong with the ez-start...

I Don't see much attraction in a pull start. Oh and either way there are always going to be parts to fix, thats part of it. That pull rope is going to break before my EZ start though. I have a pull start on a PIRATE that I have broke many times and not done one thing to the EZ Start. If something is wrong with my EZ Start I fix it right then, or I just keep an extra on hand. Which is a good idea for anyone that really wants to get going in a hurry. You will have a batt either way so you can go with the Roto-Starter and eliminate the the EZ Start motor if that's you main worry.

[Switch_639]

the Traxxas pull start is easy to start car with yes... the EZ aint that bad when one starts out this hobby... helps newbies out a lot... but with time and experience the wires are a pain...

[turborx7gen2]

Just curious with the pull-start. No one likes to have to charge a batt but you still have to have the glow-plug igniter. Either way there's always the batt issue.

i have a igniter that takes 1AA battery. its made by duratrax. one AA lasts along time and all i have to do is carry an extea one. the thing is tiny

[RC_K1d]

I have had my pull start for about oh...before I started on this forum...and no issues with it at all so far...and its cheaper than an ez-start system...

[DavidSee2]

I have had my pull start for about oh...before I started on this forum...and no issues with it at all so far...and its cheaper than an ez-start system...

Correct they are cheaper and I do have some cars with the pull-start but I do get tired of the wear that these ropes go through. I'm thinking of putting the Roto on my Jato. Oh and replacing the glow-plug wire is a negative. I like the idea of starting the car without having to remove the body. So I guess it's all in who you are and how you like to run your trucks. That's the whole idea of these forums, to exchange what works for you so that others can get ideas. Just remember some people are new to the sport and need your support not to be shut-down for their lack of experience.

[Desert JATO]

...That's the whole idea of these forums, to exchange what works for you so that others can get ideas. Just remember some people are new to the sport and need your support not to be shut-down for their lack of experience.

i admire the way of thinking like this . Thanks David a million
i wish if that many like you..

it's about helping others, advising them with easiest way possible, guiding them to what's better to their buckets too.

.. that robe thing nearly braking each corner of the car while pulling it.
it's a Chronic Pain & it's cure is to get an ez system, roto start, or starter box.

[DavidSee2]

i admire the way of thinking like this . Thanks David a million
i wish if that many like you..

it's about helping others, advising them with easiest way possible, guiding them to what's better to their buckets too.

.. that robe thing nearly braking each corner of the car while pulling it.
it's a Chronic Pain & it's cure is to get an ez system, roto start, or starter box.

You are right experience has nothing to do in how you start a car, it's how you drive it. I mean anyone with a brain can start a car, but it takes experience to get it around the track and win a race, not how it starts. Thanks Desert Jato.

[RC_K1d]

I'm not trying to "shut down" anyone...I am just defending my choice of a pull start. It has worked very well for me. Not at all saying that the ez-start is bad. I just preffer the pull start.

[DavidSee2]

I'm not trying to "shut down" anyone...I am just defending my choice of a pull start. It has worked very well for me. Not at all saying that the ez-start is bad. I just preffer the pull start.

I'm not directing this towards you RC K1D. We were all newbies at one time and seeked the same help that we are giving. I have a 7 year old daughter who can run these things like a pro. But she has learned because I taught her. So giving help, great. I was saying this because I have looked at forums that I would rather stay away from. Not much help there is there?

[amado814]

theres a guy in here who made a remote start for his jato http://monster.traxxas.com/showthrea...t=remote+start

[Dane Austin]

That is the coolest thing I've seen for an R/C yet.

[Jclay]

I don't see a reason why someone wouldn't like the EZ start unless they had a bad experience with it. The EZ starts my Jato in about 30 sec from a cold start after that it start it up immediately once heated. Don’t have to worry about carrying a glo plug heater or any other extra equipment you might need to start up a non EZ starter R/C

[DavidSee2]

I don't see a reason why someone wouldn't like the EZ start unless they had a bad experience with it. The EZ starts my Jato in about 30 sec from a cold start after that it start it up immediately once heated. Don’t have to worry about carrying a glo plug heater or any other extra equipment you might need to start up a non EZ starter R/C

Yeah you're right it's much faster to use. Some people only remove it to shed weight and in return get tennis elbow from all the pulling. There are many ways to start an engine and shed weight at the same time. I mean the Roto Zip is almost the same weight as the pull start if that's how you want to go. I personally am not going to pull for 30 min just to get 20 min of run time. Seems Ironic right?

[Desert JATO]

i'm positive that within 3-4 years from now, the pull start system in nitro engine will be something from the past.
the only reason that some manufacturers still producing their engine with pull start because of their big stock of if. future engines will not depend on aged mechanical method.

in some dirt bikes & electric generators the pull start or crank arms survived because that these types of engines depends on the " Choke " that comes as an essential of the it's carby, and this is why starting nitro engine in winter becomes a nightmare.

[gcarrillo004]

are you guys using the traxxas pull start, when mounted it you have to pull from the front, i put a metal square in the ez-start mount and just have my handle hanging from there, this way i can start it w/ the body on. to bad my clutch is backwards.