This thing is like BUTTER!

[cwallis]

I have only run it for a minute, but this thing is way nicer than the MMM.
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[tonkajeep34]

sure looks cool...

[danielhr77]

Looks nice, but I don't like the exposed wires/solder...

[cwallis]

I agree, however I would take it over the MMM any day. They are going to come out with a bullet version later on.

[candy76man]

cool...looking forward to more detail

I like the looks of it. I just wonder how it compares to the mmm as far as heat goes....does it run cooler or hotter than the mmm with the same gearing.

[cwallis]

It runs way cooler than the MMM, I have not seen the fan come on yet and I ran 3 sets of packs back to back. If the fan did come on it was for such a short time I never heard it, I never got over 4 led's.

[2IS]

Can you give some details as to why it's better? I've already got an ERBE and have a brushed erevo on the way which I'll probably convert to BL before too long (probably after I toast the motors or ESC).

EDIT: Is running cooler the only advantage?

[Taco]

Dang sure does look awesome. Would match my color scheme too...

Will that motor run off of the CC ESC?

[vashon10]

What did you observe in that 1 minute that was so impressive.. cooler temps, more torque ? I have no bias either way, but I'm kinda thinking you might against the MMM to say that with such a quick test. Just curious and hoping you can elaborate.

[cwallis]

Yes that motor will run off the MMM, but the whole point of this thing is that it is sensored and smooth as a baby's butt. You can change all kind of stuff on the ESC without even hooking it to a laptop. For example if I was running 4 cells on my MMM and needed to change it to 6 I would have to do it with the castle link, not with the RX8 there is a ton of stuff that can be done rite on the esc. The biggest bennifit is running sensord, only the ones that have ever run that way would know how big a difference it is. I can run sensored though, the motor is alittle bigger than my NEU 1515 1.5D. It is a little smaller than the MMM, but seems to weigh alot less.

[Taco]

You can program the CC ESC with your radio, right? Granted, it is tedious and time consuming, but it can be done. What kind of interface does the Tekin use to program without connecting it to a PC?

[cwallis]

It uses Hotwire, I will admit I like castle link a little bit better. It seems Tekin spent to much time on the over all look and it is a little harder to figure out. If you can adjust the MMM from the esc I don't know how, and it can't touch how much adjustments you can do with the RX8. Anyone wanna buy a slightly used MMM?

[2IS]

Yes that motor will run off the MMM, but the whole point of this thing is that it is sensored and smooth as a baby's butt. You can change all kind of stuff on the ESC without even hooking it to a laptop. For example if I was running 4 cells on my MMM and needed to change it to 6 I would have to do it with the castle link, not with the RX8 there is a ton of stuff that can be done rite on the esc. The biggest bennifit is running sensord, only the ones that have ever run that way would know how big a difference it is. I can run sensored though, the motor is alittle bigger than my NEU 1515 1.5D. It is a little smaller than the MMM, but seems to weigh alot less.

Umm, no... You can set the MMM to auto-lipo, no need for castle link each time you change the batteries. You can also change a buch of settings without castle link and a computer by using the radio, just read the manual for how to do it.

I'm beginning to agree with the above poster, I think you have a bias against MMM perhaps it's becuase you don't know how to use it? Not flaming or being an ***, but you really dont know much about it from this post.

How much do you want for the MMM?

[UberBricky42]

This is like the integy CVD thread....I have parts, look at them, no info!

[cwallis]

I have 3 and have raced with them since they came out. I just think the RX8 is more user friendly and more solid of an esc. I still have 2 MMM's and will keep at least 1 and I love it, just not as much as the RX8. If you had one you would understand. It is like the whole mac pc thing, once you go Mac you don't go back.

[cwallis]

If you want info read their site, it is all there. I will even give you the link:
http://www.teamtekin.com/rx8.html

[cwallis]

You can change the following from the esc, very easily:
LVC cutoff, drag brake, brake/reverse strength, current limiter, neutral width, throttle profiles, push controle, and, motor type.

[cwallis]

I am geared 21/68 and have not seen motor temps over 130 and the fan has not come on the esc yet.

[cwallis]

I am not sure what I was thinking saying that I was runing anything other than an MMM with *****'s. Forget it, this thing sucks don't buy one.

[yzf128r]

I have never run the rx8, but I have had sensored novak systems and granted they are very smooth, but the MMM is right there. It's very hard to tell a difference unless you are intentually trying to go as slow as possible. I like the looks of the rx8, and it's good to see that another good system has been introduced for monster trucks. I'm gonna stick with the MMM because I already own one and it has performed flawlessly since day one. Congrats on the new system and I hope it works well for you. Keep us updated. Hopefully with the tight competition between the two it will drive prices down a little bit!

[cwallis]

Yeah, thanks. I am still running a converted platinum with a MMM and Tekno Neu, so I will keep you updated on how they compare at the track. I was suposed to go race today, but was not able due to the weather which really sucks cause I stayed up all night getting this thing ready to go.

[2IS]

Dude, who are you having this conversation with, you just made 5 posts in a row???

Anyway, no one is saying it isn't "smoother" just questioning some of your conclusions, and for very good reason. One being that you had very little run time with the new system, the other is that you made claims about the MMM that were simply false. Post number 10 suggests you didn't know about the auto cutoff and didn't know about the different ways you can program the MMM. So it doesn't really matter if you own three of them, if you aren't familiar with one, you won't be familiar with the other two either.

So anyway, how much are you asking for the MMM?

[yzf128r]

there really isn't any reason to beat him up for trying something new. Everyone knows that the MMM is an excellent system. Hopefully the RX8 will prove to be a great system also. I think that it's pretty cool that someone has one and is willing to post his thoughts and comments about it on this forum. I am an MMM lover also, but I am always open to new things.

[2IS]

I'm not beating him up at all. I'm actually interested in any decent brushless system for my other revo. Telling someone they've got their information twisted when they do is doing them a service so they're better informed in the future. Now he can set his other two MMM's to auto lipo so he doesn't have to plug in Castle Link every time he changes batteries.

[cwallis]

Dude, I know about the auto cutoff, I have had a MMM since the day they came out. I have talked to other people who have this system as well, and my opinion and the people from whom I have talked too like the RX8 better. You 2IS are funny, don't be a hater. Oh, and I know that you can do some things without the castle link, but I have never done it because it seems to be easier to just use the castle link. I never said the MMM was not a good system " I like it too". Is it not ok for me to like the RX8 better, dose that bother you, if so that is fine but I am entitled to my opinion.

PS> I don't use the auto lipo cause I like to set my LVC to 3.2 volts a cell. Like yzf128r said I like to try different things and I have a couple of MMM and plan on keeping all but one.

[2IS]

Perhaps you should re-read my posts, becuase you seem to be confused as to what I was saying. I had no issues with you liking one system over the other. The only issue I had with what you were saying was the MISS-information on the MMM, nothing more, nothing less. I'm glad you like your new setup.

[cwallis]

I new you could do some settings without castle link, but who here dose it. I will tell you why no one dose it, it is because it is just as easy to hook it to castle link and I was saying that the Tekin is a lot easier and you can do more adjustments without a computer which is true. So how am I misinformed? I will say this again I love my MMM, but I like the user friendlyness of the Tekin.

[brushlessman]

I have 3 and have raced with them since they came out. I just think the RX8 is more user friendly and more solid of an esc. I still have 2 MMM's and will keep at least 1 and I love it, just not as much as the RX8. If you had one you would understand. It is like the whole mac pc thing, once you go Mac you don't go back.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA Taste my windows xp dust boy!

[Rebelgium]

Yeah yeah we got it, enough with the fighting 2IS and cwallis, show us a video already!


JK .
No really, show us a video!

[cwallis]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA Taste my windows xp dust boy!

That is funny, maybe I will be eating my words when windows 7 comes out, but I doubt it. This is why I want an esc that I can program without a computer, cause I will not own a pc, maybe I will just run bootcamp. I will get a video up soon for 2IS to drool over

[Taco]

Dude, to be honest, your first posts did sound as if you have a personal vendetta against the MMM.

I may also pick up one of your MMM's. How much you asking?

[cwallis]

Dude, to be honest, your first posts did sound as if you have a personal vendetta against the MMM.

I may also pick up one of your MMM's. How much you asking?

Nope no vendetta, I am still maybe a little upset that we were Caslte's test monkey's, but it is a solid esc now, I like a little competition. No monopolies and castle definatly had one for awhile. I don't know Taco, how much are you willing to pay

[brushlessman]

wow this thread makes me want to eat some butter

[savage t-mack]

wow this thread makes me want to eat some butter

where's the toast!

[Silver_Flame]

So, how do the speeds compare between this and the MMM/Neu combo? If they are the same, then I might have found my power plant for whenever I get an E-Revo.

[mbeatle]

I'm with 2IS on this one. I always enjoy seeing technology advance to our benefit and if the RX8 is an advancement, I'd love to see its merits displayed for us to judge. You claim its big difference is the system's "smoothness." Cwallis, if you showed a comparison video of the RX8 being smoother than the MMM at equal speeds, your claims would hold more weight. Since you have both this should be easy to prove.

You've also claimed it to be cooler. What are the temps? Surely you're not judging its temperature based on whether the fan comes on or not. Does the fan work at all? Perhaps it is triggered to come on a a higher temperature than the MMM.

How is the motor? Is it an equivalent kv to one of the Castle Neu motors? 2200kv? 2650kv? Temperatures? Speeds?

It's sad, but I think this thread will be locked/deleted before any quantitative data is drawn.

[cwallis]

If you read my previous post mbeatle you would have read that I have not seen the motor over 130 and the fan on the speedo comes on at the same temp as the MMM, I just have not seen it come on other than on start up. The kv is 2250, but Tekin admits they are some what under rated. When I talk of smoothness it has to do with the sensor and if you have never driven a sensored system you would know the difference. I have nothing to prove to anyone, but from my experience I like the RX8 better, it is sad that people get so deffensive over anything other than MMM's or *****'s. This is why I spend my time at other forums. I don't think it will make a difference, but when I run it some more I will report what I find, and probably get flamed some more, but that is ok by me.

[brushlessman]

where's the toast!

so your imposing that im fat? wrongo! lol ! j/k

[Revo¹]

The one thing I will say is, I run other Tekin ESCs, and they are more user-friendly when it comes to setting up or adjusting configurations in the field. They come with a thing called Pit Tune, and it is as easy to use without a computer as the MMM is with the Castle Link...seriously.

And also, I personally know a couple of the Tekin guys, and their customer service is some of the best in the industry!

[supermaxx]

The Tekin RX8 is better than the MMM!!!!!!

If you guys want more information which is very unbiased, go to RCMonster and read the different posts by racers praising the Tekin.