Summit Video Request???

[umc]

Hey all,

I used to play around with RC like 15 years ago with a Traxxas Cat and a Traxxas Hawk and have become interested again.

I want to pickup something new and am torn between a Summit, E-Maxx, E-Revo and E-Revo brushless.

I really like what I've seen of the Summit but would like to see a video of one in high gear running full throttle. Could someone make this happen?

Everything I've seen so far has been of it crawling.

I know it's not a "fast" machine which I think would be fine because I will mainly be using it around the yard and up and down the street with trips to a park say every once in a while. I would just like to see how fast 15-20mph is as I have nothing to reference it too.

I like the idea of some of the faster trucks listed above just for the "watch this" cool factor but think it would get boring pretty quick just going up and down the street. The way I see it is that if the brushless E-Revo can do 50+ out of the box, that's awesome but you're not going to be going too far down the street before it's hard to see and have to turn around so I don't know if that speed would ever really be realized.

Thoughts??

Also, again, can someone post some video showing the speed of the summit so I can get an idea? Thanks

RC Car Action has a great one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u38UZ...e=channel_page --Pete

[davidrx794]

have you tryed youtube and i know there are some guys on here that can help you out with that. i cant though i dont have one yet. im waiting until after vacation in Mar then the wife gives me the go ahead.

[Racer83L]

I dont have a video to show you. But I have owned an e-maxx and have a summit now. the e-maxx is boring compared to the summit. The E-Revo /Brushless are both beautiful machines.


I have a bandit that is capable of more than 70 MPH and a high 40 MPH Slash.. They are both fun, but to me the high speed get old because your basically just doing runs back and forth in front of yoru house. those vehicles in particular arent really good in the grass, just get a lot of wheel spin.


Personally, I vote you buy a Summit. the R/C is big, it excels in almost every area except for top speed runs back and forth in front of your house. its plenty fast on a track because you never really hit top speed, and mine, runnin on 2s lipos has VERY good acceleration.. whenever people see it run that arent into R/C's they always say "Wow that thigns fast" I raise a brow, but hearing that just reinforces that it is not a slow truck

[umc]

have you tryed youtube and i know there are some guys on here that can help you out with that. i cant though i dont have one yet. im waiting until after vacation in Mar then the wife gives me the go ahead.

Yeah, I've spent hours on youtube looking at videos for all four trucks listed especially the Summit but like I said, most of them are crawling with them or running slow through a puddle.

[Bohh]

Yes please. I'd like to buy one but I haven't seen any videos proving to me I'll enjoy the speed part of bashing.

[umc]

I dont have a video to show you. But I have owned an e-maxx and have a summit now. the e-maxx is boring compared to the summit. The E-Revo /Brushless are both beautiful machines.


I have a bandit that is capable of more than 70 MPH and a high 40 MPH Slash.. They are both fun, but to me the high speed get old because your basically just doing runs back and forth in front of yoru house. those vehicles in particular arent really good in the grass, just get a lot of wheel spin.


Personally, I vote you buy a Summit. the R/C is big, it excels in almost every area except for top speed runs back and forth in front of your house. its plenty fast on a track because you never really hit top speed, and mine, runnin on 2s lipos has VERY good acceleration.. whenever people see it run that arent into R/C's they always say "Wow that thigns fast" I raise a brow, but hearing that just reinforces that it is not a slow truck

Alright cool, good info, thanks.

I sort of asked this in another thread but I will do so here as well since you mentioned it in your post. Do you have to do anything special to run the Lipos in the Summit or do they just plug and play like the rest?

Also, you mentioned good acceleration with the lipos but will they add top end as well or no?

[Racer83L]

I just hooked up some LVA's to the balancing taps... or lately I have been running it by just plugging in the Lipos and lettign it rip, then run it til i get bored... I havent (Yet) over discharged a lipo, but when it happens itll be time to upgrade to a higher MAH anyways.

I have no idea if the top end is higher or lower in nimh cells because I dont own any.. But, with the lipos the power and top end put a smile on my face everytime. I use these packs from Maxamps (2S 5250MAH). bought them for my Slash, but ever since I got my Summit the slash hasnt been used

[31794ty]

GO with the e revo brushless. The summit has to much to go wrong on it. Yea it looks good but I just think it has to much on it. The e revo's are AWESOME! Since you are in the summit forum people are going to say summit.

[umc]

Alright, finally found a couple videos that are helping me make this decision a little easier, I like what I see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v6R1wuTcsc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlKfOmCd2s4&NR=1

There may be others, I'm still browsing.

[davidrx794]

well i dont know about the summit having to much to go wrong with it. yes it does have a lot of moving parts. but i dont think it decreases reliability. UMC u should buy what every truck that makes you happy if you want tons of speed but limted bashing or off road abillty(compareing to summit) get the BL revo. but if you want a do it all and more set down and make you breakfast truck get the summit. Yes it has been rumored that the Summit will make you eggs in the morining, when asked traxxas has no comment on the subject.

[umc]

GO with the e revo brushless. The summit has to much to go wrong on it. Yea it looks good but I just think it has to much on it. The e revo's are AWESOME! Since you are in the summit forum people are going to say summit.

I've thought about all of the additional things that could go wrong with the Summit so that is a consideration.

As far as being in the Summit forum, I agree with you on that, I posted here mainly looking for videos but then as I rambled on it came out that I'm looking at the 4 different trucks.

Maybe I'll post in the general forum to get un-biased opinions on all of them. That being said, I think those that have posted here so far have other vehicles than the Summit so they have a good experience with more than just the one.

[umc]

Here are a couple more decent videos.

This one has a little of everything but shows some speed toward the middle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FYqzBz-QpE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2JZG99uh5w

[69Malibu]

here is a summit bash video i made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USlTuqxku0E

[umc]

here is a summit bash video i made:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USlTuqxku0E

Awesome, thanks.

I thought I watched that before as it looked familiar but I don't remember it going fast.

[FireWire79]

I have owned all three trucks that you are interested in. I will go into the pros/cons and my personal likes/dislikes for each.

E-Maxx
This was my first hobby quality RC. It has some constant problems. One is that it doesn't handle well. It is prone to rollovers in corners, which results in you having to walk over to it all the time to right it. The bulkheads are prone to breakage in wrecks. This leads to a long disassembly project, and gets very old after doing it three or four times.

As for it's pluses, it is a good basher and has a variety of aftermarket parts available to it. Also, it is waterproof, which is fun while bashing. Mud makes for a good time.

E-Revo/Brushless
The E-Revo was the next one that I got. When comparing it to the E-Maxx, it was like night and day. The speeds were similar, at least stock. The handling was outstanding. It was way more stable in the corners and was able to push itself around like it should have. Also, it was able to be adjusted to be a more than capable basher, and still handled well. Also, it can be converted to run on road by adding a few parts and making some small adjustments.

On the downside, I personally don't care for the battery bays. Nothing against them, but they do unfortunately limit what brands and sizes that you could run.

Once the brushless system was installed the truck was still able to handle everything that I could throw at it, except water that is. It still performed well with the LiPos. I was really very pleased with the E-Revo, from one end to the other. I was really happy being able to reach top speed quickly, and it was achievable both on the track and while bashing.

Summit
I sold my dedicated crawler and my E-Revo to get the Summit. I was anxious to own a truck that did a little bit of everything. To my surprise the Summit has exceeded my expectations. The funny thing about that is, I am prone to pessimism. I had a spot in mind to test it out. Go down the rock slide, across the creek, and back up the other rock slide. After a few attempts and found the right lines, I was able to do it. I was very happy.

On the plus side, for the occasional basher, this is the perfect truck. It handles well off and on road, can crawl, well enough for most people. One other "cool" factor is the built in LEDs and the Exo-Cage. The Exo-Cage provides a lot of additional strength and protection for the body. The LEDs do provide a lot more light that I had expected and again add to the cool factor.

On the downside, again with the battery bays. But, whatever, I guess I'll cope. It is not as fast as I'd like. Don't get me wrong, it is faster than my dedicated crawler was, and certainly more fun. If you want speed, the Summit is for you. Fast enough for most, and it is durable, and can do more than one thing, bash. True, the E-Revo can bash, street race, and compete on the track, but that is not my point.

Overall, I would say that it comes down to where/how you drive your RCs. If you want to go to the track and throw down against the competition, plus get the added perks of versatility, the E-Revo is a very solid machine, and is the only other car that I would consider adding to my collection. The Summit is good for the weekend basher. You can do a little bit of everything, and have fun doing it. Since they are both based on the same chassis, they handle similarly and have cross compatible parts. All in all, please take a little time to consider what I have said and then make a decision. It is your RC after all, you need to cater to your driving style and hobby.

Either way, I hope you have fun and enjoy getting back into the hobby.

[Alectric]

Here's some videos of my Summit doing back flips off a tree.
Its snowing here in Jersey and was taking video through the back yard window so no audio.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ak2LVVvksM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5noJRPd0aY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9xIU8NIuIE

Sorry about the dark video.
Heres some day bashing. I'm gonna get home early tomorrow and get some more video up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nreItcqsJz8

I added a 20T pinion and it has some extra pep to it, but no good for crawling.

[umc]

Here's some videos of my Summit doing back flips off a tree.
Its snowing here in Jersey and was taking video through the back yard window so no audio.
Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ak2LVVvksM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5noJRPd0aY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9xIU8NIuIE

Sorry about the dark video.
Heres some day bashing. I'm gonna get home early tomorrow and get some more video up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nreItcqsJz8

I added a 20T pinion and it has some extra pep to it, but no good for crawling.

Thanks for the videos and yeah, it definitely has some "pep" Is it hard to change out the pinion? Would it be possible to shoot your video today stock?

No big deal either way and I just ask as if I go this route I'll probably leave mine stock for a while.

[umc]

I have owned all three trucks that you are interested in. I will go into the pros/cons and my personal likes/dislikes for each.

E-Maxx
This was my first hobby quality RC. It has some constant problems. One is that it doesn't handle well. It is prone to rollovers in corners, which results in you having to walk over to it all the time to right it. The bulkheads are prone to breakage in wrecks. This leads to a long disassembly project, and gets very old after doing it three or four times.

As for it's pluses, it is a good basher and has a variety of aftermarket parts available to it. Also, it is waterproof, which is fun while bashing. Mud makes for a good time.

E-Revo/Brushless
The E-Revo was the next one that I got. When comparing it to the E-Maxx, it was like night and day. The speeds were similar, at least stock. The handling was outstanding. It was way more stable in the corners and was able to push itself around like it should have. Also, it was able to be adjusted to be a more than capable basher, and still handled well. Also, it can be converted to run on road by adding a few parts and making some small adjustments.

On the downside, I personally don't care for the battery bays. Nothing against them, but they do unfortunately limit what brands and sizes that you could run.

Once the brushless system was installed the truck was still able to handle everything that I could throw at it, except water that is. It still performed well with the LiPos. I was really very pleased with the E-Revo, from one end to the other. I was really happy being able to reach top speed quickly, and it was achievable both on the track and while bashing.

Summit
I sold my dedicated crawler and my E-Revo to get the Summit. I was anxious to own a truck that did a little bit of everything. To my surprise the Summit has exceeded my expectations. The funny thing about that is, I am prone to pessimism. I had a spot in mind to test it out. Go down the rock slide, across the creek, and back up the other rock slide. After a few attempts and found the right lines, I was able to do it. I was very happy.

On the plus side, for the occasional basher, this is the perfect truck. It handles well off and on road, can crawl, well enough for most people. One other "cool" factor is the built in LEDs and the Exo-Cage. The Exo-Cage provides a lot of additional strength and protection for the body. The LEDs do provide a lot more light that I had expected and again add to the cool factor.

On the downside, again with the battery bays. But, whatever, I guess I'll cope. It is not as fast as I'd like. Don't get me wrong, it is faster than my dedicated crawler was, and certainly more fun. If you want speed, the Summit is for you. Fast enough for most, and it is durable, and can do more than one thing, bash. True, the E-Revo can bash, street race, and compete on the track, but that is not my point.

Overall, I would say that it comes down to where/how you drive your RCs. If you want to go to the track and throw down against the competition, plus get the added perks of versatility, the E-Revo is a very solid machine, and is the only other car that I would consider adding to my collection. The Summit is good for the weekend basher. You can do a little bit of everything, and have fun doing it. Since they are both based on the same chassis, they handle similarly and have cross compatible parts. All in all, please take a little time to consider what I have said and then make a decision. It is your RC after all, you need to cater to your driving style and hobby.

Either way, I hope you have fun and enjoy getting back into the hobby.

Thanks for the quick reviews, that helps a lot.

I only wanted one truck and I'm already planning another purchase.

I'm really leaning toward the Summit for now to get me going and then in a few months once the weather breaks here in MI I may have to go with an E-Revo BL. The reason being is a friend of mine has a track and if we get that cleaned up I can see doing some racing out there. He is way into RC as well as another friend of mine so I'll need something to be able to try and keep up to them with.

The nice thing there is I can use the same Lipo batteries (and chargers) but I'll have two similar vehicles that I'll be familiar with and being able to swap parts may be a plus as well.

[lcbrink]

I'm really leaning toward the Summit for now to get me going and then in a few months once the weather breaks here in MI I may have to go with an E-Revo BL.

I spent a lot of time tossing back & forth the E-Revo brushless and the Summit. The speed of the E-Revo really drew me in, and the all weather/most terrain of the Summit counterbalanced my need for speed. In the end the need for waterproof won over the blinding speed for me, thanks in part to the crappy weather in Upstate New York and the fact that I don't plan on racing large scale trucks.

One thing to think about is the upcoming 1/16 scale E-Revo & Slash. The short clip I saw on them said the E-Revo will do 40+ out of the box and the clip of it in action made me a believer. My long term plan is to race the small E-Revo indoors and bash the Summit outside. Best of both worlds without the $1400+ investment of two large scale vehicles.

[Alectric]

Thanks for the videos and yeah, it definitely has some "pep" Is it hard to change out the pinion? Would it be possible to shoot your video today stock?

No big deal either way and I just ask as if I go this route I'll probably leave mine stock for a while.

No problem. It was lots of fun. Looking forward to taking some more video today. The pinion is not hard to replace, but it's not as much fun stock. It's crawling abilities are not completly gone, it's just not as good.

It's fun stock but eventually you're gonna want change. If you go with the summit make sure u pick up some lipos and an lvc, u won't regret it. More vids coming soon!

[noll1]

not sure this will help but Im kinda in the same boat as far as deciding. I have the rustler VXL and I am really happy with the thing. I have a 3s 8000mah so plenty of speed. I was looking at either the summit or B E Revo but then I see where the mini revo is coming out. NOw Im leaning toward the Mini. SO if you get the summit and then want more speed for the track consider the Rustler VXL.

[umc]

not sure this will help but Im kinda in the same boat as far as deciding. I have the rustler VXL and I am really happy with the thing. I have a 3s 8000mah so plenty of speed. I was looking at either the summit or B E Revo but then I see where the mini revo is coming out. NOw Im leaning toward the Mini. SO if you get the summit and then want more speed for the track consider the Rustler VXL.

I like that idea of the Rustler VXL instead of the E-Revo BL, cheaper and will only require one battery plus blazingly fast.

[mygiotto]

While I don't have a video to share yet, I can offer my recent experience with Traxxas products. I've been away from RC hobbies for a while, the last rc I owned was a Traxxas Bullet that I built circa 1987. Fast forward to this past christmas and I decided to get back into RC hobby and purchased a VXL Rustler. The VXL Rustler is alot of fun, but as someone else mentioned above you are limited to street runs, not really a basher. So, I decided to purchase an E-Revo for some bashing. Wow, the Revo platform is nice. Very impressed with the revo platform. While I had no plans to purchase a Summit, I just couldn't resist. The Summit is 90% identical to the E-Revo, but the differences really do make the Summit an all-around great basher.

The Summit is my favorite. I enjoy the all around aspect of the Summit. From crawling to bashing, it is fun. And fits my needs perfectly. As someone else mentioned, it really depends on how you plan to use your vehicle.

[Alectric]

Some more bashing vids!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JlZ8eX0V4E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yLISvtPAqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhdYQ0kW5I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOpJJT45iIY

Here's some crawling vids with the 20T pinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86h6yltXA9Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoUpMAhwXbc

14T pinion crawls them rocks, much better. I'll get some crawlin vids wit the 14 tomorrow.

[ricketkm]

**** nice back yard

[Alectric]

Thanks! When the weather is nasty I just sit on the couch and bash threw my backyard picture window.

[umc]

Alright, I bought a Summit today (blue)(and don't tell the wife). Anyway, I was torn on what to do about the batteries and went the safe cheap route for now until I learn more.

I got some Tenergy 7 cell 3800's What can I expect out of these?

I also bought two Prophet Plus chargers since they were cheap.

Please educate me on batteries for the Summit as I wanted to go with Lipos but was affraid of frying the batteries and I don't know anything about LVC's and whether you need one for each battery or what.

HELP!!!

Also, the shocks, I don't like how low this thing is sitting so I took the back shocks off to dial them down. Thoughts?

Is there an easier way than to take them off?

[umc]

I was going to change the thread title since we got the vids and I now own a Summit.

It's been tough having it and not being able to do much as not to draw undue attention from the wife. This evening I decided to go downstairs and start breaking in the motor as I already charged the batteries. I set it up on an ammo can and adjusted the trim to let run. After a while that wasn't fun so I took it outside and started running it up and down the street easily and what blast. I can't wait to start beating on this thing, I'm totally sold so far and am very happy with my choice and purchase.

I think I will run it easy one more time and then all out. It was nice having the lights on it so I could run it tonight, I thought they were more of a gimmick at first but that's totally not the case. Not only can you run it year-round because of being water proof you can run it 24/7, how cool.

I even managed to roll it a few times which I'm sure is due to me adjusting the rear shocks to make them more stiff. I may back those off a little.

This thing is awesome and I can't wait to get into it more and figure out what batteries will work best. I have the tire wobble as well, has that gone away for anyone?

[Alectric]

Nice! I'm glad you are enjoying your new purchase.

[zero]

i use those exact batteries and charger for my emaxx and summit. the charger is great. i suggest having two of them. the batteries are fine.. they are just a sport pack, and they seem to last quite a while in my summit. considering it is a heavy monstrocity.

[umc]

i use those exact batteries and charger for my emaxx and summit. the charger is great. i suggest having two of them. the batteries are fine.. they are just a sport pack, and they seem to last quite a while in my summit. considering it is a heavy monstrocity.

Yeah, I did get two of the chargers, I was only going to go with one at first but they were cheap enough. I was pretty impressed with the punch and how long things lasted as well. I didn't however do a very good job of timing things last night and will do better today to get an idea of how long these things might last.

I may just stick with the NiMH and even these if they continue to do well and get a couple more sets of them, they're pretty cheap. I would like to see how they do next to the Lipos though to have a real idea of the difference.

[lcbrink]

I got some Tenergy 7 cell 3800's What can I expect out of these?

I have two Tenergy 6 cell 3800 batteries and I've gotten 30 minute run times without discharging the batteries completely.

Also, the shocks, I don't like how low this thing is sitting so I took the back shocks off to dial them down. Thoughts?

Is there an easier way than to take them off?

There is no easy way to take off the shocks, and keep in mind that the top shock bolts are one of the bolts that hold the rear and front chassis to the main body.

[zero]

getting them back in is slightly more difficult.. those stupid little piot balls just will not sit still.. lol

[tylerdurden455]

Took a quick vid today, sorry the quality is so bad...

My Summit doing a creek crossing

[umc]

Can someone explain batteries to me a bit. I'm not sure which way I want to go with batteries, I bought the Tenergy 7 cell 3800's to start with as I figured it would be a cheap way to get me going and buy me time while I learned more about batteries and if I wanted to go the Lipo route.

I'm sure most would say go Lipos but I worry about burning them up, do I only need one LVC?

What kind of differences would I see by going Lipos? I've been pretty happy with the batts above and aren't voltage and MAH what they are? So if I had the same numbers on Lipos and NiMH wouldn't they be the same?

[zero]

i am pretty sure the lipo batteries maintian voltage right untill they dump. the NiMH and NiCD batteries slowly lose voltage as you run the vehicle. i believe you will see longer run times with the lipo as well. i personally do not use lipo in anything. too much money for 1 battery.

i would rather spend the money on the truck and or have multiple batteries than one or two really expensive batteries. not to mention you have to get a specific charger and balancer as well. either way it is up to you. its all a matter of opinion, and what you want from the truck. IMHO... NiMH is perfect for the summit.

[umc]

i am pretty sure the lipo batteries maintian voltage right untill they dump. the NiMH and NiCD batteries slowly lose voltage as you run the vehicle. i believe you will see longer run times with the lipo as well. i personally do not use lipo in anything. too much money for 1 battery.

i would rather spend the money on the truck and or have multiple batteries than one or two really expensive batteries. not to mention you have to get a specific charger and balancer as well. either way it is up to you. its all a matter of opinion, and what you want from the truck. IMHO... NiMH is perfect for the summit.

That's kind of what I want to hear. If I were to go the Lipo route I would be looking at almost 400.00 for a good charger that will charge and balance two batteries at once and two batteries.

The Prophet Plus chargers that I got were like 35.00 each and the batteries were 33.00 each. I could get 12 more batteries for the price of the two Lipo setup.

I think I'll stick with the NiMH for now.

Are the 7 cell 3800 Tenergy's good or should I be spending more on a higher MAH?

[Racer83L]

That's kind of what I want to hear. If I were to go the Lipo route I would be looking at almost 400.00 for a good charger that will charge and balance two batteries at once and two batteries.

The Prophet Plus chargers that I got were like 35.00 each and the batteries were 33.00 each. I could get 12 more batteries for the price of the two Lipo setup.

I think I'll stick with the NiMH for now.

Are the 7 cell 3800 Tenergy's good or should I be spending more on a higher MAH?

I went to my lhs and bought some 3000 mah traxxas 7 cell flat packs.. they were CHEAP. I wanted to get some basing batts that I dont care about and they fit the bill.. anyways, the performance of them compared to the Lipos is night and day.. the truck is almost boring with the Nimh. I will still run them though because I want to submerge the Summit and would rather do it with $20 batts then $120 batts.

[zero]

^^^^ soooooo true.. lol better to waste cheapos than pricey.

you can go on ebay.. the name of the store is all-battery. i bought 4 for something like 75 bucks. look under airsoft guns in the ebay store.
linky...

http://stores.ebay.com/All-Battery-Center

[tylerdurden455]

Here's another one, sorry the video is so bad. Really cool how the Summit just drives out of a complete nose dive into the mud. I love this truck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K01y-q99gGg