cc neu and reg. neu

[e revo maniac]

many people say the the cc neu does not even compare to the real neu but then lately many people have been confusing me saying that they basically are the same thing . which they are but performance wise i dont know . can someone clear this up thanks

[DockBrown88MPH]

The only ones who can clear this up are the ones that have the both systems.

So, what's are the temp differences, speeds, torque, and run times with the same ESC and same gearing?

[brushlessman]

max temp on my neu was 130* i dont have the ccneu but have herd upwards of 160*

[mbeatle]

max temp on my neu was 130* i dont have the ccneu but have herd upwards of 160*

Where? Same configuration / batteries / gearing? It's impossible to draw conclusions like this without real data.

[e revo maniac]

ya i did here that the reg. neu runs cooler but do any of you guys have the reg neu not the tekno

and how much dust and dirt actually gets into the motor cuz that really all im worried about scince the tekno neu is sold out

[brushlessman]

Where? Same configuration / batteries / gearing? It's impossible to draw conclusions like this without real data.

Well I have been out running my e-revo today with the castle combo in it. I wanted to know if 175*f is to hot for this motor(checked it at the 14min mark). Its 45*F outside . I have it geared 22/65 with losi super bolt-on tires( a hair more than 6 3/8'' diameter ). Running on 4s 6000mah 25c enerlands. Truck weighs in at 10 pounds 13 oz full rtr. I did have it geared 22/62 and it was 172*F after 10min (38* outside). The lipo got at the hottest 130*F

So is my setup ok and will I be able to run it like this in the summer? Also are my temps ok?

Forget to add the mmm's fan was on when I checked the temps on all my runs ( all after about 10mins of running in just the yard[ its all flat ]) but couldnt get the tempgun to tead over 105

theres your proof

[e revo maniac]

that doesnt really answer my question tho altho it does help on knowing max temps

[e revo maniac]

i think im going to get the tekno neu 1515 1y square can

[trxbeast193]

similar speeds probably and hotter temps for the combo. it seems that the real neu is realy the best you can get.

[brushlessman]

http://superfastrc.com/neu-1515-1y-b...ons-15151.html
its what i got!

[DockBrown88MPH]

I bought two of the combos hahahaha

I'll post a thread if any of them explode, or over heat.

I think I'll gear one at 68/22 and another at 62/22.

What is it? $164 for the MMM ESC alone? $136 for that motor?

So what is a BAD temp? What temp should motors be? At what degree will the brushless motor fail due to heat issues?

You guys think strapping on 4 fans to the motor is gonna make a huge difference?

[asheck]

So what is a BAD temp? What temp should motors be? At what degree will the brushless motor fail due to heat issues?

CC has said 200 is no problem for there motor.

[yzf128r]

I'm not sure about the "real" neu, but my cc/neu has had no heat problems so far. I have it in a e revo geared 22/54, with lpr sized tires. I am running 2s 8000 lipos. My motor temps after 20 min. of hard driving were 127 and the esc didn't break 100. I would say those temps are great. Some of the posts I have been reading with higher temps seem to be on trucks that are geared fairly low. I love the set up, and hopefully I will be able to maintain the good temps.

[e revo maniac]

you guys that have the real neu are you having a problem with dirt and dust getting in

[brushlessman]

you guys that have the real neu are you having a problem with dirt and dust getting in

no! just put some aluminum tape (h-vac) tape over the endbell and let it rip!

[DockBrown88MPH]

I should have done that with my Twin VXL setup... Just a few hours ago, I realized one of the motors is grinding. Not turning too easily. I feel a lot of dirt and sand in that one

Hope dirt isn't an issue with the CC 2200KV. I Like em DIRTY!

no! just put some aluminum tape (h-vac) tape over the endbell and let it rip!

[mkrusedc]

you guys that have the real neu are you having a problem with dirt and dust getting in

I run mine in dirt all the time. I have a RCM cover, though.

[brushlessman]

I run mine in dirt all the time. I have a RCM cover, though.

yeah i got mine after mike stopped making the covers

[bring it on]

Sqaure can motor is a direct fit for Tekno RC V3 Brushless Kits.

Square Can benefits:


Direct fit for Tekno RC V3 Brushless Kits
This motor is ideal for a variety of DIY conversions
NO MOTOR MOUNT NEEDED, saves weight
NO MOTOR MOUNT NEEDED, saves money

integrated cooling fins
40mm fan mounts directly to top of motor
Guaranteed to fit E-Revo.
Plus all of the Tekno RC enhancements below

Mounting holes: (4) x M4, 32mm x32mm apart, 8mm tap depth

[bigfol]

I'm running 6s 1515 1y f geared 22/54 tape covers over the back of the original neu so the dirt doesn't get in and as for the temps, i don't have a temp gun yet, but i can hold it my hand after 30mins run time no problem, don't waste your time with a fan if your going to run with the original Neu.
Not required!!!

[slowenuff]

I thought this thread was supposed to be the cc neu vs the real neu with similar specs battery gearing tires etc.....Stop holdin out on us and tell us already!

[HoovHartid]

many people say the the cc neu does not even compare to the real neu

who are these people?

how would they know?

maybe they want to believe that because they run novak

lol, jk

[e revo maniac]

how bout some shrink wrap and ill cut some holes on the actuall barrell for cooling that should keep the dirt out of the reg neu

cuz i dont really like the sqaure one my self

[asheck]

The fact is there is still no real comparisons done.I thought this thread was supposed to be the cc neu vs the real neu with similar specs battery gearing tires etc.....Stop holdin out on us and tell us already!
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Nobody knows yet.It seems people want to assume it runs the same,but that is unproven.So go ahead and buy both,along with a datalogger and let us know how it turns out.

[brushlessman]

You can't go wrong with any neu motor

[slowenuff]

I have absolutely no doubt that an neu is monster of all monsters. Its just I would like to see if the CC one is anywhere as good. Also whether or not the medusa 3670 2000 or 2300 would be a good fit. And thats mainly cause of price. Already spent more than a grand on my erevo is less than 5 months of owning it. It took me well over a year with my rusty.

[Lunchbox1019]

Why does it matter if the cc-neu runs exactly like a neu or tekno-neu? If it is any where close, it's plenty fast. Even if the cc version is a bit hotter and slower, can you build anything near that kind of power for the money cc offers?

I can brag to my friends that I have a 6s monster all day. But honestly, I never even run it on 6s. Thats only good for making speed runs. I find 4s to be way more fun than 5 or 6 because I can actually use the whole power band. This is just one guys opionion, what do I know.

[asheck]

Also whether or not the medusa 3670 2000 or 2300 would be a good fit

Thats what I'm gonna end up running.I've loved my 60 can,but that can go in the 3905.For most the batteries are gonna be the limit,not the motor,so as long as you have a good motor,you should be happy with the performance.

[slowenuff]

Well thats just it the Neu and its offspring are mentioned all the time. You and a few others mention the medusa and as for the brand I use (hacker) barely a blurb. These boards have a way of making you doubt your choices. Same goes with batteries. Mention a certain brand name thats not what the concensus uses and it opens the flood gates.

[asheck]

Yes these boards become overwhelmed with what is popular,and if thats not what you have then your wrong.The truth is there are many answers to this equation we call rc,and the fact that there are unlimited variables,in drivers,means there are many different ways to get at what works for you.

[e revo maniac]

yes that is very ture and also alot of us go buy the forums but just ordered my neu 1515 1y cant wiat

[brushlessman]

yes that is very ture and also alot of us go buy the forums but just ordered my neu 1515 1y cant wiat

the black one? the smooth can? i got the smooth can because i just like things smooth lol! plus you can put decals on it

[e revo maniac]

i got the finned reg black neu um do you have a prob with the pinion slipping or did you shim the shaft down and i said this befor but no one answered what do you think of shrink wrap on the motor to keep the dirt out

[brushlessman]

what ever works for you. the shaft can be filed down if needed

[Patrick delCast]

The regular Neu motor will run a little cooler than the CC/Neu. The difference is that the Neu motor has an open case, so air can flow through the case. This also allows dirt/sand/grit to flow through the case, so the CC/Nue has no openings in the motor.

Efficiencies are almost identical between the two motors -- the CC/Neu is built to the exact same specifications as the regular Neu motor (under license.)

Patrick del Castillo

[brushlessman]

The regular Neu motor will run a little cooler than the CC/Neu. The difference is that the Neu motor has an open case, so air can flow through the case. This also allows dirt/sand/grit to flow through the case, so the CC/Nue has no openings in the motor.

Efficiencies are almost identical between the two motors -- the CC/Neu is built to the exact same specifications as the regular Neu motor (under license.)

Patrick del Castillo

patrick is here! wee!

[HoovHartid]

patrick is here! wee!

wow! thats awesome!

[asheck]

Yes it is.Now if he'll just visit the Rustler forum and share some of his knowledge there

[mkrusedc]

From the "horses mouth". No offense Patrick. Remember the original Neu is an airplane motor where as the Castle Neu is a truck motor.

A few other facts:

Castle Neu
-Casing closed
-Not carbon inside as the "real" Neu
-Wires comes out on the side, not in the back
-The motor shaft has a flat spot
-Larger Bearings Japan (Koyo - CNC grade, 100K RPM rated)
-Laminations M19 non-oriented magnetic steel Japan
-Magnets Same as Neu – China N38UH magnet
-Shaft material Stainless - USA
-Case T6061 – China
-US source polyimide (Kapton) insulated wire

The Tekno RC Edition Neu Motors feature:
Larger 5x13x4mm bearings front and back
Sealed motor can
Rear end bell is safely secured by Neu's latest design
Flat spot along length of shaft

[kulone]

From the "horses mouth". No offense Patrick. Remember the original Neu is an airplane motor where as the Castle Neu is a truck motor.

A few other facts:

Castle Neu
-Casing closed
-Not carbon inside as the "real" Neu
-Wires comes out on the side, not in the back
-The motor shaft has a flat spot
-Larger Bearings Japan (Koyo - CNC grade, 100K RPM rated)
-Laminations M19 non-oriented magnetic steel Japan
-Magnets Same as Neu – China N38UH magnet
-Shaft material Stainless - USA
-Case T6061 – China
-US source polyimide (Kapton) insulated wire

The Tekno RC Edition Neu Motors feature:
Larger 5x13x4mm bearings front and back
Sealed motor can
Rear end bell is safely secured by Neu's latest design
Flat spot along length of shaft

i am awaiting the side by side reviews, not so much the statistics. i run a MMM v3 with a 1515 1\Y\S. it would be great for a side by side review to come out soon. depending on the outcome, it would would great to have another alternative to powering the erevo.