i killed the v3!

[brushlessman]

running 6s today! great run! but at the end my brakes locked! lucky the jolt unplugged the batterys, i plug them back in and smoke pours from the esc! i unplugged promptly so i called castle and he says its the 1st one to fail! and i did it! nothing wrong with my setup just the esc.

[Mr.juarez]

so what does this mean? no replacement?

[newbie_version1]

So it had been running 4S just fine?? 6S killed it huh?
Please keep us informed as to the status of your MMM situation.

P.S. I'm sorry for your loss..... LOL

[reltsurLXV]

Some other dude cooked his over at RCM too...V3

[brushlessman]

not like this! his just stopped, mine failed violently

[brushlessman]

so what does this mean? no replacement?

i called cc they will get one out asap

[phoneix-rising]

haha you made a first but not in a good way

[bigfol]

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!! I can't believe it, they said it was built for 6s, I've been waiting for 5 or more weeks to get back on the road, I had to send my v2 back from australia, if this is what we can expect from the v3, castle better be taking care of the postage from now on,it cost me a 1/4 of the price i paid for the bloddy thing just to get it back for warranty, NOT GOOD ENOUGH CASTLE!!!!! Traxxas and Castle are going to be in a living warranty **** if this keeps up!!

[brushlessman]

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!! I can't believe it, they said it built for 6s, I've been waiting for 5 or more weeks to get back on the road, I had to send my v2 back from australia, if this is what we can expect from the v3, castle better taking care of the postage from now on,its cost me a 1/4 of the price i paid for the bloddy thing just to get it back for warranty, NOT GOOD ENOUGH CASTLE!!!!! Traxxas and Castle are going to be in a living warranty **** if this keeps up!!

nah dont pin the blame on castle! there products are great. well most of them. and there service is great. its really a marvel that they can put that much power into a esc! i mean 120amps...thats just plain insane. keep up the good work castle i will stand by it. get me running again!

[bigfol]

There are other ESC's on the market that don't fail like this, you have to pay about $350 US for them but they work. I just don't understand why they rush these things to market,if your going to produce an esc on a mass production scale surely it would make good bussiness sense to get it right the first time, its called research and development!!! Yeah I know someone is going to get on here and say but it only costs such & such, thats not the point, its false advertising, they say it can handle 6s, so it should be able to do so, if its going to cost more to get it right, then so be it!!!!!!

[brushlessman]

there is a design flaw. what do you expect for 160$ sure the 350$ work but eventually they will get it down

[bigfol]

Yeah I hope so, but in the mean time i could have spent my money on something that worked and be out driving rather than siting here talking to you

[brushlessman]

Yeah I hope so, but in the mean time i could have spent my money on something that worked and be out driving rather than siting here talking to you

maybe its a fluke

[Lunchbox1019]

Whats the percentage of v3 in active duty that have failed? Its obviously extrememly low. Its probably a fluke.

[RustlerRacer16]

If mine blows up I'll have a cow man.

[brushlessman]

its 2 out of hundreds mine and a guy over at rcm

[DockBrown88MPH]

NOOO!!! You got to be kidding me... The version 3!?!?

I bought a new E-Revo JUST to install the MMM combo pack. If yours fried, than there is a chance the others will burn to. ughhh...

>_<

Keep us posted, and yeah, VERY sorry for your lost. After hearing horror stories on here from V1 to V2, I held on to my Twin VXL system waiting for MMM to get it right.

If V3s are frying to... what are the chances that the new E-Revo Brushless Editions will burn as well?

[thephilonator]

yeah the tally for current V3 failures are 2.

a heads up for anyone with a V3, the connectors for the motor are a bit close to the heatsink, guy on RCM killed his V3 when the connectors bumped the heatsink at the same time shorting it.

by the way, 120 amps is nothing, the losi 1/8th esc is rated for 800 amp peaks.

[DockBrown88MPH]

Team Losi has a 1/8th ESC? Hey, can you post a link to that? Can it handle 6S? If it handles well, I might get that if the V3s start smoking left and right.

yeah the tally for current V3 failures are 2.

a heads up for anyone with a V3, the connectors for the motor are a bit close to the heatsink, guy on RCM killed his V3 when the connectors bumped the heatsink at the same time shorting it.

by the way, 120 amps is nothing, the losi 1/8th esc is rated for 800 amp peaks.

[8ight-e]

The guy at RCM modded his and took the plastic case off it.. the case when installed would have prevented the connector from being able to hit at all.. the area between the plug and the heatsink is expeosed but the plastic over the heatsink is in direct contact with the motor wire leads on the heat shrinked area so it couldn't rub unless the heatshrink wore off. Anyway apparently castle says this won't toast an ESC anyway from what others posted. What most likely happened is his plug came loose and the heat generated from not having the proper connection simply melted it. I've had them pop out before too..

I've run my v3 MMM for about 40min on 5s no issues... Sorry I don't run any 6s lipo's to test more.

[DockBrown88MPH]

All of you that are running 6S Lipo packs on the MMM V3s. How you guys holding up? Ok?

8ight-e, thanks for the update, but I NEED an ESC that can run 6S. I absolutely, positively NEED a blazing fast E-Revo that can smoke a Novak, and leave my Twin VXL system IN THE DUST! (I'm also off my medication temporarily)

Do all of the MMM V3s have blue mother boards inside them?

[Lunchbox1019]

All of the V3 from what I have read have the blue boards so that CC can tell them from V1 or V2 at a glance. I have about 5 runs on 6s. So far so good. I admit, I enjoy 4s and 5s a little more. Things get hairy on 6s, at least for me they do.

[brushlessman]

All of the V3 from what I have read have the blue boards so that CC can tell them from V1 or V2 at a glance. I have about 5 runs on 6s. So far so good. I admit, I enjoy 4s and 5s a little more. Things get hairy on 6s, at least for me they do.

very hairy indeed! i could not keep the front-end down at 40mph any more throttle and woop goes a wheelie a very hairy setup. 4s is alot more enjoyable.

[Lunchbox1019]

very hairy indeed! i could not keep the front-end down at 40mph any more throttle and woop goes a wheelie a very hairy setup. 4s is alot more enjoyable.

Wonder if I can get a better deal on body posts if I buy them in bulk

[DockBrown88MPH]

You guys think it would handle pretty fast on 3S? I mean... I have two 3s packs, how fast and how much of a runtime would I get on a 3S alone. Would it be able to beat a Twin VXL clocking at 43 MPH, or a Novak at 40-45?

[brushlessman]

i wasn't wearing a body

[brushlessman]

You guys think it would handle pretty fast on 3S? I mean... I have two 3s packs, how fast and how much of a runtime would I get on a 3S alone. Would it be able to beat a Twin VXL clocking at 43 MPH, or a Novak at 40-45?

no! you will have heat issues with your lipo! 4s is the minimum!

[mkrusedc]

Brushless man, what was your gearing?

[DockBrown88MPH]

Seriously? Wow, I've bin in this hobby for 5 months I didnt know that. I wonder if that's why my batteries exploded with my Twin VXL system back in the day.

Well... All I have are 3S batteries. Man... I really hope your MMM failing was just a fluke. I'm sorry to say this, but I'm actually a bit glad yours is the first Castle has heard of that has fried.

Still... you weren't doing anything wrong which is what worries me.

The Twin VXL system is very reliable IMO. There really isn't any ESC out there that can perform like a MMM. AHHHH! I use to despise MMM because of it's lack of reliability, but speeds of 60+ MPH!!! I must have this POWER!

43 MPH on a Twin VXL is not enough... needs more POWER!!!

...probably shouldn't have drank that last Red Bull...

no! you will have heat issues with your lipo! 4s is the minimum!

[mkrusedc]

I use to despise MMM because of it's lack of reliability, but speeds of 60+ MPH!!! I must have this POWER!

43 MPH on a Twin VXL is not enough... needs more POWER!!!

...probably shouldn't have drank that last Red Bull...

Use this page for a setup that will give you the speeds you want:

http://scriptasylum.com/rc_speed/_data.html

[MooseDrool]

Uh-Oh NUMBER 3!!! read a few posts down on this thread!http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=443824

[DockBrown88MPH]

3 down... man...

Well... worst comes to worst... I make my 2nd New E-Revo into a rock crawler.

Wake me up when MMM V4 comes out...

Uh-Oh NUMBER 3!!! read a few posts down on this thread!http://monster.traxxas.com/showthread.php?t=443824

[killermmn]

i have test 6 mmm v3 and the 6 still runnig great!!!
dont know what happen man,and the test set up is my lst2 and old e-maxx whit 6 cell!!!

[DockBrown88MPH]

you have 6 MMMs? Whoa, someone that has more money to burn than me

How many times have you ran those MMM V3s each? Just like 10 times might be ok, but what about when you run it 20+ times?

I'm more curious about where the point of failure on all 3 of these failed MMMs are.

i have test 6 mmm v3 and the 6 still runnig great!!!
dont know what happen man,and the test set up is my lst2 and old e-maxx whit 6 cell!!!

[killermmn]

i have 2 me,my friend 4!!
we test the mmm to see if someone go at flame again!!

[brushlessman]

you have 6 MMMs? Whoa, someone that has more money to burn than me

How many times have you ran those MMM V3s each? Just like 10 times might be ok, but what about when you run it 20+ times?

I'm more curious about where the point of failure on all 3 of these failed MMMs are.

i have 5 counting the new one in the mail, and i only own one!
and yes.... I'm all hopped up on mountain dew! lol!

[The Oracle]

This is rumour control, here are the facts:

1) The V-twin setup uses a single 3s lipo on each esc, as thats the most it can take- Im dumbfounded that anyone could think that they should have used more voltage.

2) The MMM esc can run anything from 2s to 6s lipo- it is the motor and gearing that are the determining factors. You must choose a suitable motor to run on the different voltages, otherwise you end up with a 10mph turd or a 70mph missle that will fry in seconds- please read the FAQ and tutorials more often people...

3) The MMM can fail just as easily on 4s and it can on 6s- voltage isnt the issue as such, more to do with random failures on the BEC circuit, or bad setups (user error).

4) I've seen failures and fires on every brand of esc out there- thinking that MGM, Losi, Tekin, Schulze, Quark, Novak etc dont fail as often compared to the MMM is utter nonsense. The MMM is brand new, there are bound to be some bugs and issues to work out- just be thankful of the great service you get with Castle compared to some other companies.

5) Even perfect escs fail sometimes, and it has nothing to do with design flaws. Without a magic wand, there is no way to ensure every single component on these things is 100% perfect. You do get bad chips every now and then, and given the amount of current these things have flowing through them, its hardly suprizing that they can just go pop once in a while.

Quit being hysterical, and run your escs- if it dies, then so be it- warrenty is a wonderful thing...

[brushlessman]

This is rumour control, here are the facts:

Quit being hysterical, and run your escs- if it dies, then so be it- warrenty is a wonderful thing...

exactly my point! they do fail more than any other esc i have i have killed 1 mm in 2yrs 3mmm in 2 months (something is wrong with that picture)

[DockBrown88MPH]

Well said The Oracle.

[Adonnay]

This is rumour control, here are the facts:

1) The V-twin setup uses a single 3s lipo on each esc, as thats the most it can take- Im dumbfounded that anyone could think that they should have used more voltage.

2) The MMM esc can run anything from 2s to 6s lipo- it is the motor and gearing that are the determining factors. You must choose a suitable motor to run on the different voltages, otherwise you end up with a 10mph turd or a 70mph missle that will fry in seconds- please read the FAQ and tutorials more often people...

3) The MMM can fail just as easily on 4s and it can on 6s- voltage isnt the issue as such, more to do with random failures on the BEC circuit, or bad setups (user error).

4) I've seen failures and fires on every brand of esc out there- thinking that MGM, Losi, Tekin, Schulze, Quark, Novak etc dont fail as often compared to the MMM is utter nonsense. The MMM is brand new, there are bound to be some bugs and issues to work out- just be thankful of the great service you get with Castle compared to some other companies.

5) Even perfect escs fail sometimes, and it has nothing to do with design flaws. Without a magic wand, there is no way to ensure every single component on these things is 100% perfect. You do get bad chips every now and then, and given the amount of current these things have flowing through them, its hardly suprizing that they can just go pop once in a while.

Quit being hysterical, and run your escs- if it dies, then so be it- warrenty is a wonderful thing...

That was about the same I wanted to post... thanks man, saves me the typing

This is not the appocalypse guys, every ESC failes from time to time and now that all MMM v3s are sent out at once (almost), there are bound to be a few reports but come on, there are far less than expected. They really seemed to have solved most of the issues.