ok the summit has 15lbs of steering torque that will move the rocks lol! 250 oz is about 15 lbs i think it is 14.6 lbs. still alot. another thing guys relax about the straight axles its NOT a competition rock crawler! but by god did you see the part were it was going up steps! pretty sweet maybe we should call it a brawler (bashin racin crawler) wat do u guys think?? i dont know what to call it but i think brawler is pretty sweet.all i know is im sellin all my trucks and buyin this thing. haha cmon snow i need to get shuvilin 4 money haha i need an allowance! i wonder how much torque the wheels will put out???