"Orange-Thunder" Stampede Project

[QDIII.]

Okay,
after reading so many posts and realizing, everyone is so specific like "Will this fit" or "Will that fits" I have to ask the same, as I have to order nearly everything via the Internet in the US so I can not gamble with my money.

My project is, to lower the nPede by lowering the Shocks and as body I am planing a 72 Chevy Pickup in Orange/White or Metallic Green.
Of course I am on the look-out for a nice wheel tire combination and it should be huge. I mean similiar to this one, which is actually how the project should look like:


Now on the lookout for Wheels I found the 30 Dirt Hawks from Pro-Line
Front Wheel
Rear Wheel

So what do you think? Would this match my idea, or match it anyhow on my Pede?
Only for your reference I post a picture of my Nitro Sport on Dirt Hawks but this will definetly look too small and narrow.

[Trucks2]

I have those tire/wheel combo. Will post some pics if you like with them fitted onto one of my sports.

[NStampede Freak]

You can get a set of 17mm hex adaptors from New Era and run maxx tires(or any wheel that accepts a 17mm hex).

[QDIII.]

I have those tire/wheel combo. Will post some pics if you like with them fitted onto one of my sports.

Oh yes.....this would be great.

In addition I wonder which smaller shocks would fit the Pede to make him lower or in other words, how length are the usual shocks?
Should I get some for a 1/10 street racer and put some thin oil in it?

[Trucks2]

Hey QDIII

Here are some pics I promised. These are 30 series Dirt Hawgs and I have them bolted up to a Nitro Rustler here for demo. These might be a bit low profile for a N_Pede, but have a look anyway.

[QDIII.]

Wow....looks great on the Rustler but I think, similiar to the ones I had on my Nitro Sport, they will look a little bit small on the Pede.
I like to have the look of a/m picture so I think I will get something more bigger and if they will not fit my hex, I will get an adapter.

I think I will rename this topic later to make it a "Project" Thread.....

When I get the right body, I will paint it in white, orange and black and the result should look similiar to this one:

[NStampede Freak]

You may want to check out pro-line's new flat irons. They are taller than those 30 series and are still standered 2.2.
Here's a link to tower:http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXUWD5&P=7

Here's masher 2,000's on my 2.5 pede:


They are pretty big. The sidwalls are huge. I never cared for the big rim look. They are monster trucks, not low riders.

[QDIII.]

They are monster trucks, not low riders.

You are absolutly right, but as I am not the typical Basher and I have the Pede in my "garage" I like to accomplish this project! But thanks for also posting the pictures

[QDIII.]

I just realized that I did not post the current progress.
I get myself some "Road Rage" 40 from Proline, because I was so excited by the look, but this is exactly the problem when you order all your stuff from the net, because you can not compare it.
So, this is my Pede how it looks like at the moment:



Then I checked the tip with the strips and lowered it as I prefer it.
This is the result:

I think it looks not too bad, but watch this......
This is how it looks when you install overdimension tires on a small Truck:

A little bit over the top and finally it does not work at all as they are definetly too wide but at least good for a picture.
Here is the difference to the stock tires:


So, as I threw my money in the Trash (Sold it right after taking the pictures) I know, I will go for the Jato 2.8 and I am on the hunt.
For the Body I am still saving some money and I will keep everyone posted on my project.

[theX]

Try the 30 series from proline they will work much better.

[jsommers0129]

maybe try 17 mm adapters with hpi phaltlines they7 would probubly be 5.5 inches tall but not as wide as the 40 series are
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNHW8

[QDIII.]

maybe try 17 mm adapters with hpi phaltlines they7 would probubly be 5.5 inches tall but not as wide as the 40 series are
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNHW8

The Problem will be for both (I guess) that the Weels are only available with Hex, means, due to the fact that the Pede is 2 WD, I will not have 2 pairs matching, as for the front I need different once.
I am now on the Hunt for the Jato Weels and a nice street tire as they will match the front and the back, or does anyone has another idea for the above to mentioned once?

[NStampede Freak]

The adaptor set that I mentioned earlier converts the bearings into a 17mm hex. it also makes the rear into a 17mm hex.

[QDIII.]

The adaptor set that I mentioned earlier converts the bearings into a 17mm hex. it also makes the rear into a 17mm hex.

Do you have a link for these? How can you convert a Bearing into a Hex? If this would be possible it would be much easier to find corresponding wheels.
I was on a look out for an old Tamiya Body, but guess the price the guy get for this:

This thing is 10 years old but he get 90 USD for this!

So my hunt for the 72 Chevy Body continues (and of course for fitting wheels)

[NStampede Freak]

Yeah, vintage stuff is not cheap.

Here are the adaptors:
http://www.neweramodels.com/item.cgi...=&part_id=3244

[31794ty]

Why not get the proline 72 chevy body? I am pretty sure I saw one on tower.

[QDIII.]

Long time no update and honestly I didn't went out that much with the Pede.
But finally I made a selection of wheels for which I like to have your thoughts which would fit best on a lowered Street Truggy:

[Tom R]

Have you checked out the Imex tires and wheels?
http://www.imexrc.com/servlet/the-Ri...ims/Categories
Tom

[QDIII.]

Have you checked out the Imex tires and wheels?
http://www.imexrc.com/servlet/the-Ri...ims/Categories
Tom

I think they are a little bit too fancy and also only 2.2
I was looking for the 2.8 to have a more lowered truggy look but thanks for the link.

[Tom R]

http://www.imexrc.com/servlet/the-Ri...ims/Categories
Here are the 2.8 wheels

[QDIII.]

maybe try 17 mm adapters with hpi phaltlines they7 would probubly be 5.5 inches tall but not as wide as the 40 series are
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXNHW8

Coming quickly back to this adapter issue.
Is there any adapter converting the 12mm Hex to 17mm Hex to fit the Phaltline on towerhobbies?
First I was not able to find it and second, if I make one order in the US I would prefer it from one store, so my choice would be Towerhobbies. As u may know the customs fee would kill me

[nitrorustler135]

neweramodels makes a 17mm conversion but i was told that on the nitro rustler it dosent go that fast but it might work on a nitro pede but im not sure...its $35 plus $10 for bearing unless you have some of that size

[QDIII.]

neweramodels makes a 17mm conversion but i was told that on the nitro rustler it dosent go that fast but it might work on a nitro pede but im not sure...its $35 plus $10 for bearing unless you have some of that size

Right, the link is already above, but I was looking for something similiar from Towerhobbies as I think 34 USD is not that cheap.

[nitrorustler135]

well there the same bearings that the nitro rustler uses in the front...same bearings that traxxas uses for the clutchbell so you could basically do it for $40....

[QDIII.]

So, even not that much progress, nearly all the parts arrived.
Unfortunatly the result is not what I expected.

Here are some pictures with the 2.8 Proline 30 Series:


Even when I push it down, the look is not what I am really looking for:


As I was smart, I ordered already the 17mm Hex from Integy:


so I think I will go for the Phaltlines

Last but not least the new Chevy Body:


Strange is only, that even the body is made for the stampede, the front wheels/axle will not really fit into the body...... Lets see


PS: I think the pre-owner mounted some other body-mounts so do you think if the body will sit lower on the chassi with original body-mounts the body will fit better?

[nitro rustyy]

sorry for bringing back an older thread, but QDIII, did you look at imex's 2.8 road runners? it has a little higher profile than the ones you have on. it might be something to look. im in the process of getting an older used n stampede and want to do a similar project. what does it look like now?

[QDIII.]

Okay everyone, the project is "finished".
Not exactly as I wanted but driving becomes more important than just the look.

Don't complaint about the bad paintjob but it was finished when I realized I used Tamiya TS instead of PS which costs me finally 2 days of rubbing off the paint completely. Due to the fact I took of the outside slide I have some paint during the second paintjob on the outside.

Then I mounted new body posts which again raises the body but anyway......
Maybe one day I get me the Phaltline if I have some money left because these things are expensive as **** in Germany. (~125 Dollars for a full set while Tower offers them for 30 Dollars a pair but shipping and customs does not keep this deal)

One thing to mentioned too....
I re-installed the rear exhaust, as honestly I like it very much because you do not have to work on the body. Maybe I will get me a chrome one also.

Bottom line is that I took it out for a ride, it did some wheelies, the engine was working fine so I am too.

Officially the thread is done but still for reference and maybe later I finish the project with Phaltline and a chrome exhaust.

[QDIII.]

Okay everyone, I decided that this is not over, so I stick with my plan......

First, let us compare the "new" tires with the current one:


Even more impressive is the fact that the previous fits into the new one:


Strange is that Integy wants me to mount the long 17 Hex in the front and the short ones in the rear, but of course I don't do this:



And finally the first shot with the tires mounted
(Unfortunatly the front adapter does not fit as the dimeter of the front is about 1mm thicker so I mounted them just for the look)



As soon as I have the axle issue solved I will make "real" pictures.

PS: I am close to getting a 3.3 so I will stick with my Stampede for ever

[NStampede Freak]

I am pretty sure those integy hub adaptors are for the electric pede because I don't know of any integy adaptors for the nitro pede. I could be wrong though. Do you have a link to tower on the adaptors that you bought?

BTW, how is that tower engine been working for you? I see they are pretty cheap and thought about trying one.

[QDIII.]

Here is the link to the hubs.

I do not see a difference from the Electric and the Nitro Stampede when it comes to this spidles.
I also can not understand why the front is 1mm bigger in diameter???

I think this requires some work with my Dremel!

And yes, the Tower-Engine runs quite okay, but with everything, I want now a little bit more.......

[QDIII.]

I posted a question in the Jato Board and asked if maybe the Jato spindles has a diamter of 4mm.
This would be my rescue!

[NStampede Freak]

Those hubs won't work on the nitro pede. The electric pede uses a 3mm shaft with a hex. The offsets are different as well.

You could try swapping out the spindles with an electric pede setup, but then the offsets will still be wrong.

The jato does use the same 4mm type of spindle as the nitro stampede.

I am pretty tempted to pick up one of those tower engines for $60. My original pro.15 is pretty well shot and my 2.5R is just ripping apart my pede. The piston and sleeve for that tower engine is only 23 bucks.

[QDIII.]

The jato does use the same 4mm type of spindle as the nitro stampede.

You are saying that the Stampede has also 4mm Spindle?
Why does mine has 5mm?

I get the impression I bought the stampede already with a tuned suspension in the front, thats why mine has 5mm.

But you are saying that it wont work.......
I will use the the short ones in the front and the large one in the rear so I will have some nice Dragster look! I will give it a try!

PS: Juts ordered Jato Spindles!

[NStampede Freak]

You are saying that the Stampede has also 4mm Spindle?
Why does mine has 5mm?

I get the impression I bought the stampede already with a tuned suspension in the front, thats why mine has 5mm.

But you are saying that it wont work.......
I will use the the short ones in the front and the large one in the rear so I will have some nice Dragster look! I will give it a try!

PS: Juts ordered Jato Spindles!

Sorry, I meant 5mm. I was thinking 5mm and wrote 4mm instead of 5mm for some reason.

The jato has the same spindles as the nitro pede.

In order for the adaptors to work the the stock pede axles, they NEED bearings in the adaptor it's self.

These are the adaptors that would work:
http://www.neweramodels.com/item.cgi...=&part_id=3244


If you are dead set on using those integy adaptors, you could do a electric pede front end swap. There is no other way to use those adaptors.

[QDIII.]

Okay, now you have to pay my order I just made
I checked in the Jato Forum and they confirmed that the Jatos Diameter is 4mm so I ordered some spindels for the Jato.
The offset in the rear would be wider but with the phaltlines itself it doesn't matter I think.
As soon I am processing, I will post more pictures!

[QDIII.]

Back to the Project:

One fact is clear,.,...... The Stampede definetly do not run with the Phaltline due to 2WD and the missing hex on the front. No way to do it......

But now I safe them for maybe another truck and just wanted to tell everyone that I bought a used 3.3 Trx for 70 $.

Lets wait and see how it fits in......

PS: What do I need to buy for it? Is the sticked conversion thread within here still valid?

[NStampede Freak]

Just look at the 3.3/2.5 how to sticky.

I have to warn you: the 3.3 is going to be a handful in a pede. Better prepare for drivetrain upgrades.

[QDIII.]

Thanks for that NStampede Freak.... as I am not the Basher Type I will handle the throttle carefully.
But I have another issue..... What kind of parts I need to install the engine besides the conversation set?
I mean, I just have here the plain shaft...... do the clutchshoes and flywheel fit the 3.3 from my .15?

PS: Never changed an engine, thats why my question may sound strange!

[NStampede Freak]

The stock .15 clutch will bolt right up to the 3.3. Nothing needed there.

The rest is covered in the sticky(throttle linkage,exhaust, ect.)

[QDIII.]

A few month pass and just to keep this thread going, I am just awaiting my US Order to get the Conversion Kit.
Then I will make the final upgrade and probably go for another body......
Lets wait and see!