No need for After Run Oil with This Nitro Fuel !! is it true ??

[Desert JATO]

Anyone uses Morgan's Fuel Sidewinder for Jato ?

it's the only available Nitro fuel here .. it says on the gallon that is
no need to use after run oil when using it !!!

it says that the mixture blind already contains anti oxidents and corrosion
elements thats eleminates the need of using after run oil.

i don't know about other brands of Nitro fuel.. but are they saying the same ?

http://www.morganfuel.com/sidewinder_main.htm

i advise everyone NOT TO STOP after run process. under any condition.

[spenter]

^^ I agree with Desert JATO ^^

[NOLA JATO]

doing after run maintance is so easy, why take the chance not doing it, do you think any fuel manifacturer will replace your engine if it fails due to not doing afrer run maintance?

[Desert JATO]

doing after run maintance is so easy, why take the chance not doing it, do you think any fuel manifacturer will replace your engine if it fails due to not doing afrer run maintance?

don't miss my thoughts Nola jato .. my above 2nd rply above explain everthing...

i was just asking if other brands of nitro fuel is saying the same as
morgan fuel claims...

again i'm with after run maintenance under any condition..

[DarkHaze]

I run a hobby shop in alabama, and i've went out on a limb with all my rc's, traxxas included, I have have neglected the after run procedure, (all except draining the fuel out of the tank) never have had a problem, tuning ect. when it was time for time for a rebuild on my 3.3, to my surprise, there was absolutly no rust, excessive buildup of any sort, the bearings were in excellent condition. The "ENTIRE" engine literally wiped clean with a soft cloth. I personally stand behind Morgan fuel. Either way use your own judgment.

[DarkHaze]

F.Y.I. Morgan fuel is made in Enterprise Alabama.

[NOLA JATO]

if after run maintance is not required, then why donesevery engine manufacturer recomednd it?to each his own, it's not my engine, how can it do anything but increase engine live?

[DarkHaze]

if after run maintance is not required, then why donesevery engine manufacturer recomednd it?to each his own, it's not my engine, how can it do anything but increase engine live?

pesonal preferance, i still get long life out of my engines.

[TheEvilGenius]

I don't know about the fuel,But my friend never does after run and his trucks always start up right away and run strong...I do after run and sometimes have trouble starting them ..Go figure!

[arceeguy]

Some people can get away with not performing any after-run procedure with no ill effects. It all depends on the storage conditions. If the air is consistently dry, any residual alcohol in the fuel will not pull moisture from the air and cause corrosion. If you store your model in a shed or garage, after-run oil is mandatory because the temperature swings may cause moisture to condense in your engine. After run oil for model engines is a petroleum based product, and will not mix with nitro fuel. I really can't see how any lubricant in the alcohol based fuel can act as an after-run oil when it is the alcohol in the fuel that requires us to use after-run after every use.

I use "fogging oil" in my power equipment when I store it at the end of the season, which is the equivalent of after-run for power equipment.

[DarkHaze]

I store my models in the garage, with alabama humidity, or in my truck if I am too lazy to put them in the garage

[jrfink]

I usually burn O'Donnell's and always use after run oil.

However, Sidewinder fuel is very popular with the racers around here and they don't ARO the vehicles. I've always told them I don't trust that, but I can honestly say I've never seen problems. Most of the guys I know that use Sidewinder have excellent running racecars.

From what I've seen over the past few years I would have to say the claim is true about Sidewinder fuel.

I don't know of any other fuel that recommends NOT using after run oil.

[arceeguy]

I think that the after-run procedure really shows its value after you store an engine for a long time. Most of the engines that I've seen that had rusty cranshafts and bearings had been stored for at least several months. The ones that were gummed up (and sometimes rusted) had been stored for over a year, or sometimes several years. It takes a while before the castor oil hardens really good.

I could probably get away with not doing any after-run on my "most loved" rc's because they see regular use and are stored in a dry climate controlled location. I also make sure that the engine is run completely dry of fuel. I spend a several minutes (at least) to blast the truck with compressed air and wipe it down, so a shot of spray lube or a few drops of Marvel Mystery Oil is not a lot of effort compared to the upkeep of a nitro rc overall. I am a bit surprised that a hobby shop owner and racers don't do it.

And yes, I do the ARP even when I use Morgan fuels.

[jrfink]

That makes a lot of sense.
I live in the Arizona desert. There is no drier climate on Earth.
I've always taken that into consideration.
The same racers I know may have problems on a more humid racetrack.
Hard to say.
I won't use Sidewinder though. I like to ARO my vehicles.
It makes me feel like I'm making a difference anyway.
I have a similar after run routine.

[ulrichcapri]

TRUTH-nitro methane attracts moisture-end of story--

[jrfink]

There needs to be moisture to attract it.
We have none here.
That's certainly not the end of any story.
Sidewinder fuel thinks they can prevent corrosion and rust by using additives.

[arceeguy]

Yes, I need to become buddies with jrfink so he can fine me a decent VW beetle (the old air cooled kind) that hasn't rusted to dust!

[jrfink]

Oh man, you got it!
There's plenty of them around here.
All sorts of old vehicles. People come from all over the World to buy vehicles from here.

Come visit anytime.

[Nitro Chicken]

We regularly get engines in our repair lab with internal rust. Rust is not covered under any kind of warranty but it does qualify the owner for the engine exchange program!

[revo noob 1994]

i never use after run just cause i store them in a dry enviroment....still runnin strong(sidewinder 20)...............

[spankie]

i use sidewinder and when i took my motor apart to change the piston and rod it was like new no rust anything

[I know pi!]

I should probabally get that fuel because of the proabability of me not using after run oil, its not always a memmory problem but i'd be running at my friends house and it's left all day with the WD-40 in my garage which is too far to get, or WD-40 is gone. I'd say with that sidewinder claim they should back it up by warranting your engine against corrosion, it's easy to determine the difference between rust and broken con-rods!

[n3.3d_for_sp33d]

You should use it if it is up there and you don't have to pay for shipping, but keep doing after run stuff any ways, it won't hurt your enging.