nitro fuel in go cart engine??? would it work ok?

[Dr.Love]

lol i wana see if it works

[JMAN3.3]

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[Unsullied_Spy]

I would think it wouldn't run very well, I certainly wouldn't put it in my car (especially considering that gasoline is still a little cheaper than nitro ). If JMAN3.3 got it to work, maybe it's possible but I wouldn't try it with an expensive engine.

[cholyoake]

i think it might work, but i dont think it would run very well. the compression needed to run nitro is probably very diffrent to what is needed for gas. when i was running my jato someone was asking me questions about the fuel, and after a while he said he put pure nitro methane that he bought into a scooter (i know its not the same as the fuel we use), it wouldnt do much more than idle, and had very little power.

[JAsher45]

it will work to a point, but you will run your engine extreamly lean if use use straight nitro with out rejetting the carb. also the timing may have to be retarded to keep it from detonating before combustion... just a couple thoughts from my drag racing days

[arceeguy]

it will work to a point, but you will run your engine extreamly lean if use use straight nitro with out rejetting the carb. also the timing may have to be retarded to keep it from detonating before combustion... just a couple thoughts from my drag racing days

I agree! It is fact, not fiction, that "nitro fuel" will require rejetting of the carburetor for it to even run in an engine jetted for gasoline. (the air fuel ratio required is 100 miles apart here)

[Dr.Love]

i was onley going to mix a little in with it...

[timjs]

when my old 3 horse B&S engine was tired and i wanted to blow it up, i sat it in the middle of my back yard and put nitro (20% blue thunder) in the tank and held a spring on the throttle to pull it wide open. the engine would only run on choke (cuz you need more nitro then gasoline to have it running correctly.)
anyways that thing immediatly shot up to rpms i never heard before.

for about 3 seconds then a peice of the rod flew out of the block and dug itself into the ground.

just my past experience....

[Nitronaught]

Nitro fuel has oil in it. Oil is not a good thing to be introducing into the combustion chamber of any 4 stroke motor.

Best thing to do is leave the RC fuel for you RC and run fuel that was designed for the right application.

[Marko G]

sure it will work, but nitro fuel burns too hot and will blow your engine very quickly...

[navigator ghost]

I think he means he wants to put it in a 2-cycle. I tried it in my Go-Ped mixed in with my regular gas/oil, it didn't do much. I'm sure if it had adjustable jets I could make it run pretty darn good, but it runs super-lean as it is even on gasoline. I might try what timjs did, I haven't tried straight nitro yet.

[savagenomore]

I nitro (33%) as a starting fluid,it is better on the engines than regular starting fluid, I work on small engines (lawn mowers) and will squirt a little in the spark plug hole to help me diagnose carb problems and such. if I remember correctly, it will not mix with the gas, it is a different density and will go straight to the bottom of the tank.

[4x4dodge]

One time I ran out of gasoline for my lawnmower and I used diesel. I have never seen soo much smoke come from a lawnmower but it didn't hurt anything. All it did was foul up the spark plug pretty bad and anoy the neighbors. It would be best not to use nitro in a 4 stroke since it doesn't require a lubricant in the fuel like a 2 stroke does. It probably could run in a 2 stroke if you could get the correct amount of nitro to the engine and make sure there is enough lubricant in the nitro to prevent engine damage. I think nitro has alot of lubricant so it should be fine. It's worth a try at least. It's just kind of expensive though.

[timjs]

deisel wont run in a gasoline lawnmower. i tried it. not NEAR enough compression.

EDIT: uh man i feel like someones about to make me look stupid. lol.

[arceeguy]

deisel wont run in a gasoline lawnmower. i tried it. not NEAR enough compression.

EDIT: uh man i feel like someones about to make me look stupid. lol.

Briggs and Stratton used to make spark ignition engines that ran on diesel fuel. They weren't Diesel engines, and they needed to be started and warmed up on gasoline, then you would flip a valve and run the engine on Diesel. (with less power, and more smoke - but it would run!) What separates a Diesel engine from a spark ignition or glow engine is the method of ignition, and the direct injection of fuel into the combustion chamber. Diesels rely on compression alone for ignition, and inject fuel directly into the combustion chamber. No throttle plate, as the diesel sucks in as much air as possible every stroke, and power output is controlled by the injection pump.

[timjs]

wow they did? but i dont see why B&S would make something like that. i just dont see the benifit.

[masonholmes]

Going off-topic here I guess.. years ago me and my bud assembled an OS CZ-R out of spare worn out parts we had from past CZ-R's over the years. The thing barely had any compression, or would run on proper RC fuel, so we decided to see if it'd run on rubbing alchohol! 90% was the closest to straight we could get at the drugstore so that's what we used, and mixed a little castor oil in with it. Obviously it didn't run well at all, but after awhile we got it to run, and blow some blue flamage out the straight header exhaust. Finally the conrod snapped and that was the end of that. Like I said, the engine was assembled out of a buncha junk parts that woulda been tossed out anyways, or turned into paperweights. It was summer, we were still in highschool, and we had time & parts to kill. To go back on-topic, I wouldn't put RC fuel in anything but RC engines, where it's designed to go. (unless I again had time & parts to kill of course, haha)

[riper69]

sure it will work, but nitro fuel burns too hot and will blow your engine very quickly...

Yes it does. I ran a 3.5 horse briggs off of a nitro gas mix. (mostly nitro) taped the choke open and let her rip. Ran for about 4 minutes and blasted a hole in the side of it. My friend got hit in the hand with a chunk of the block and got cut. Do n ot try.

[4x4dodge]

deisel wont run in a gasoline lawnmower. i tried it. not NEAR enough compression.

EDIT: uh man i feel like someones about to make me look stupid. lol.

I had it running for a while on the gas that was left in it then I added the diesel while it was still running. It definatly didn't have near as much power as it does when it is running on gasoline. I also couldn't get it started again after I shut it off.

[picco26max]

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[Unsullied_Spy]

deisel wont run in a gasoline lawnmower. i tried it. not NEAR enough compression.

EDIT: uh man i feel like someones about to make me look stupid. lol.

Depends on how much, my dad dumped some diesel into our lawn mower and it ran. Stunk like mad, didn't run very well, and when you turn the key off the engine would keep running fine for almost 10 seconds, then it would start to run rough and then die.

[aussiek2000]

deisel wont run in a gasoline lawnmower. i tried it. not NEAR enough compression.

EDIT: uh man i feel like someones about to make me look stupid. lol.

i mixed gas and diesel and all my mower did was smoke like crazy. its a 10 year old push mower with probaly 1000 hours on it, the oil has only been changed like 3 times, and it runs perfect. its a 5HP B&S engine, my other mower is a Honda 5.5HP(all the maintenance is kept up on this one), and the briggs still has more power than the honda.

[I know pi!]

I've put 20% Top Fuel in my gas scooter and it hit 45MPH when the stock Gas went 20MPH!
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awesome!!! can I ride it I'll provide 33%

[Smokin_Cache]

There were allot of electric generators which had a diesel/gas engine one them as described above by arceeguy.

[fixed]

just add some nitroethan to you Gas

http://members.aol.com/FHSoil/index.html
NitroMethane / NitroEthane
These high power HP booster fuel additives will significantly boost your performance. Nitromethane for methanol engines, nitroethane for gas engines. We use the clear (water-test passing) type. Use in low compression (9:1 or less) engines only. Nitromethane is the same fuel used by top-fuel dragsters which break 300mph! Pure Nitro now ships by motorfreight only to a commercial address. See the pre-mixed fuels for UPS shipments. Get up and go for the Outlaws!

[redneckjato]

Nitro fuel has oil in it. Oil is not a good thing to be introducing into the combustion chamber of any 4 stroke motor.

Best thing to do is leave the RC fuel for you RC and run fuel that was designed for the right application.

this is totally not truei'm not trying to make you look stupid but youu can run a 4 stroke all day with two stroke gas not nitro. you just cant run two strokes with no oil addidtive unless it has an oil injector.

[4x4dodge]

this is totally not truei'm not trying to make you look stupid but youu can run a 4 stroke all day with two stroke gas not nitro. you just cant run two strokes with no oil addidtive unless it has an oil injector.

Thats correct. The extra oil in 2 stroke fuel will foul the spark plug(easy to clean), but will not really hurt the engine. I have run 2 stroke gas mixture in a small 4 stroke 3HP engine and it ran fine, smokey but fine.

[timjs]

if you think about it, its good for the engine. extra lubrication for the upper limits of the rings' travel on the cylinder. the valves too.

[1fast3.3]

I personally have ran 33% Top Fuel in an old weedwacker 22cc. It runs very lean, the engine runs very smooth but lacks power over gasoline. It didn't smoke at all, the higher compression of a 2 stroke ringed piston allows it to burn off the oil. Long term effects were a scored cylinder wall and bad rod bearings. The motor locked up within 1/2 qt.

Note: this was on a old cheap weedwacker that I had already purchased a replacement. The fuel was some 6month old fuel I had lost and found.

[Traxxas2oo2]

instead of running nitromethane, why not just use 110 oct leaded race fuel.. much cheaper then nitromethane, and will actually still run small 2 strokes very well.. This is what you put in gopeds and such that have high compression domes etc. (16:1 and higher even) not Nitromethane, its a completely different formula.

[navigator ghost]

instead of running nitromethane, why not just use 110 oct leaded race fuel.. much cheaper then nitromethane, and will actually still run small 2 strokes very well.. This is what you put in gopeds and such that have high compression domes etc. (16:1 and higher even) not Nitromethane, its a completely different formula.

You won't notice any difference in power though. If you re-jet the carb and run nitro fuel, you'd better hang on!

[I know pi!]

mmy dad used to run high-octane fuel in his dirtbike races, he said it really boosted power, but now that I race the fuel shop closed wanted to try it you could get nitro methane there and lots of stuff

[arceeguy]

......youu can run a 4 stroke all day with two stroke gas not nitro. you just cant run two strokes with no oil addidtive unless it has an oil injector.

While running two stroke mix in a 4 stroke won't harm it immediately, it will eventually lead to excess carbon build up and plug fouling. Castor oil is known to leave nasty carbon deposits, but it is an awesome lube for high performance two strokes.

Here's an interesting story:

Running two stroke mix in a 4 stroke engine is how some "snake oil" salesman demonstrate their oil additive products. They'll run a 40 or 50:1 mix of oil in a briggs and stratton 3-5 hp horizontal shaft engine with a clear plastic window installed on the crankcase so you can see that all the oil was drained out of he engine while it was running. They'll claim that their product has "soaked into the pores of the metal" and that is why the engine isn't seized up. The reality is that the oil in the fuel is preventing the piston and valves from seizing, the nylon camshaft lobes are tolerant to the lack of oil, and the rod and main bearings are under no load so whatever oil residue is left is enough to keep them from burning up for the duration of the demonstration. It also helps that tolerances in a splash lubricated B&S air cooled engine are large compared to an automotive engine which would quit running within seconds of losing oil presure.

[GlowThunder]

I've put 20% Top Fuel in my gas scooter and it hit 45MPH when the stock Gas went 20MPH!
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NOPE i put nitro fuel in weed eaters it did Nothing but die out and would not run, put nitro fuel in a lawnmower it Died out would not run. put nitro fuel in a chainsaw same deal and in a gokart did nothing but die out none of the engines would not run...

[navigator ghost]

Even when you closed the choke/richened the mixture?

[n3.3d_for_sp33d]

I think if it was a 2-stroke engine it would work fine.

[timjs]

I think if it was a 2-stroke engine it would work fine.

it will work fine, or at least run, in any engine 2 stroke or 4 as long as the air/fuel ratio is right.

[Nitronaught]

this is totally not truei'm not trying to make you look stupid but youu can run a 4 stroke all day with two stroke gas not nitro. you just cant run two strokes with no oil addidtive unless it has an oil injector.

You are not looking at the long term affects, short term you can get away with it, but long term, the valve guides will get built up with carbon from the oil, then the valve seats. So then you will be loosing compression as you now have ruined the seal of your valves.
Also the unburnt oil will pass through and coat the O2 sensors and do a wonderful job on your catalytic converters.

It would just be a matter of time before you end up replacing sensors, catalytic converters, and or be in desperate need of a valve job.

You haven't made me look stupid at all. I can do that just fine on my own. j/k