Slayden did you race?

[SpeeD-Jr]

Hey Steve !

Did you raced at event(s) this weekend ?
I can't wait to get mine and I would like to know as much as possible on the Jato.

Did you fine tuned your Jato yet ?
(fine well... could be more than that)

Thank you

[Slaydaddy]

Yes, I raced the Jato a couple of weels ago, and it felt very good. I'm looking to get more track time this weekend. It's handling great and jumps very well. I've got a good set-up for higher bite tracks, and I'm currently working on a low-bite set-up.

[RustlerMan2.5]

Are you still runing the 2.5r in there or did you swap it out for a legal sized race motor?

[funkdude]

how could he race with a non-legal engine lol.

He has a .12in there now.

[Slaydaddy]

I'm running an OS 12TR.

[Unbreakable207]

Thats a serious looking engine. 1.3hp Blah!

by mellow you mean not as powerful, correct steve?

[Slaydaddy]

Yes, generally you would want to put in an engine where you can use 90 to 100% of its potential. This normally goes for any class. Anything more than that and it would be useless and wasteful, not to mention, potentially harmful to your lap times.

The 12TR is a bit of an overkill for 2wd stadium truck racing, but when the traction is up, it is very useable.

[Professor R/C]

I run the .12tr in my Tc3 and its the most reliable and tunabe engine I have ever used. I am really enjoying the easy but competitive characteristics of this engine.

Professor

[Nitro Japan]

I did a search on the OS engine that you are talkin' about, and i acctuly think that it looks pretty neat.

Nitro Japan @ Sweden

[Professor R/C]

Japan,
This engine has actually been out for quite a while now. I think about a year(Is that right Steve)? But yes its a killer engine.

Professor

[SpeeD-Jr]

Which is a killer engine for race and bashing ? .12 to .18 ( no budget )

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by SpeeD-Jr
Which is a killer engine for race and bashing ? .12 to .18 ( no budget )

If it's going to be ROAR racing, you will have to stick with a .12.

[Professor R/C]

The .12tr will give you plenty of power for bashing and is plenty reliable. As for racing it IS ROAR legal and is capable of keeping up with the others on the track.

Professor

[S-MAXXracer]

im guessing that .12 is the highest ROAR legal engine?? i think it should be .15 if so. that way the trx2.5 could blow everything away. and that way you could add a little more torque into the races. A .12 cant have much torque at all.

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by S-MAXXracer
im guessing that .12 is the highest ROAR legal engine?? i think it should be .15 if so. that way the trx2.5 could blow everything away. and that way you could add a little more torque into the races. A .12 cant have much torque at all.

The 2.5 wouldn't blow any of the racing .12's away.

[Professor R/C]

S-maxx,
There several classes for ROAR racing and each have there own requirments. The following is the requirments for enigines for each class:

Onroad:

1/10 touring - .12(4-tec)
1/10 onroad pan - .15(these cars are like the Serpent 750's)
1/8 onroad - .21(Serpent 950's)

Offroad(a bit more technical so just general here):

1/10 Expert Gas Truck - .12(Jato)
Monsters - Open(I think, actually does ROAR even have a monster class. I thought they did)

Like I said pretty general. If you really wanted to race ROAR you'd have to do a hole big deal to qualify your car for racing. Hope this clears up the engine stuff for you for the most part.


Professor

[72'dolphins]

I don't think that ROAR has a monster truck class, yet. But I think that they seperate it into small and large block classes. Not sure, but this is what I think it is.

[Professor R/C]

Originally posted by 72'dolphins
I don't think that ROAR has a monster truck class, yet. But I think that they seperate it into small and large block classes. Not sure, but this is what I think it is.

Yeah thats thought too.......

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by Professor R/C


Yeah thats thought too.......

Yeah, because Slayden races a .18 in his REVO, so that why I thought of that. But it's a TZ, so it might as well be a BB.

[mikemeyer0]

quick ?, why do my threads get locked if they mention somthing other than a traxxas part? Funny, a traxxas employee can talk all he wants about non traxxas items and get away with it, also traxxas employee not using traxxas parts, HA ha now thats funny and makes you wonder!

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by mikemeyer0
quick ?, why do my threads get locked if they mention somthing other than a traxxas part? Funny, a traxxas employee can talk all he wants about non traxxas items and get away with it, also traxxas employee not using traxxas parts, HA ha now thats funny and makes you wonder!

The get closed when you, not you but anyone, ask "how do I tune my PICCO?'' or "my OS doesn't run well". I have had many threads about non-TRAXXAS parts and they never get closed. And he's racing ROAR, how could he use a TRX2.5(r)? And he doesn't use the 2.5(r) in his REVO, because if he did, he would be at a disadvantage to other racers.

[JohnnyRingo]

Mike the clarification on what you can and can not discuss is located here:

http://monster.traxxas.com/showthrea...hreadid=273515

JR

[S-MAXXracer]

thanks prof. and 72', but what about the torque issue. those engines in a Staduim Truck cant produce very much torque at the wheels. that way it doesnt accelerate very fast. does anyone get my drift?? i think that if they raise the limit to a .15 then the races would be much more fast paced and require a lot more skill than now. but then again, i have a Stadium Truck w/ a .18 in it and it has tons of torque and top speed.

[72'dolphins]

I'm sure that the .12's make plenty of torque. If they raised it to .15, then every one would want .18. I think ROAR should leave it where it is, make the trucks get better. I want to get some kind of ST, sorry, but most likely not going to be the JATO, and put in a .12, mabey the OS, but hoping for a Novarossi.

[S-MAXXracer]

why no JATO??

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by S-MAXXracer
why no JATO??

Want it to be more a of race truck out of the box. Going to look around.

[Professor R/C]

S-maxx,
Like 72 said .12's can make plenty of torq. I think you would be surprised. And increasing in .03 displacment really doesn't a WHOLE big difference when you compare the two. But yes it does create some increase in power and torq.

I have a .12tr in my Tc3 and this engine is actually been out for quite a bit now. It is not as updated as some .12's like novarossi's, but can still really easily spin the car around in a 180 from a stand still.

Also having the displacment a little bit smaller makes somewhat of a challenge for engine makers. Therefor bringing technology through a bit faster than it would otherwise.

Hope this helps


Professor

[S-MAXXracer]

thanks for the opinions. i see the advantages now.

[N80]

I think Slayden also mentioned that too much power is a problem. I suspect that for many tracks (short, slick, etc), too much power is a bigger problem than too little.

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by N80
I think Slayden also mentioned that too much power is a problem. I suspect that for many tracks (short, slick, etc), too much power is a bigger problem than too little.

Too much power? TOO MUCH POWER? No such thing as too much power, the problem is getting it all to the ground.

[N80]

Originally posted by Slaydaddy
Yes, generally you would want to put in an engine where you can use 90 to 100% of its potential. This normally goes for any class. Anything more than that and it would be useless and wasteful, not to mention, potentially harmful to your lap times.

Don't take it from me, I'm no racer. But he seems to be.

[72'dolphins]

Never mind.

[mikemeyer0]

thanks, just wondered, i see it a lot, my threads do get locked even if i mention non-traxxas items, oh well. sorry, i didn't mean to HJ your thread. Good luck Racing!

[SpeeD-Jr]

So Steve did you found your low-bite set-up ?

You raced any this weekend ? ( if yes, what rank you finished? )

And thoses tires Victory are they on the market yet, because I cannot find any 2.8...

[N80]

Originally posted by 72'dolphins
Want it to be more a of race truck out of the box. Going to look around.

That got me wondering about what's out there for racing. From Losi there is the XXX-NT. You can get the Adam Drake kit for $260, no motor or electronics. Then there's the sport version RTR, $360, and they list it as an entry level racer for "Sportsman" class. From AE there's the RC10-GT. The Factory Team racing kit is $270. No engine, radio or electronics. The RTR version is also $270. Like the Losi, the RTR lacks most of the serious racing components.

I don't know about HPI or Duratrax STs in regard to racing.

So it seems like you can get Losi or AE RTRs for entry level racing, for anout the same or even less than a Jato. I guess the million dollar question is how these RTR versions compare. If the Jato fares well against these RTR 'racers' then it might be a good choice, especially if there is any chance of bashing on the side.

The AE and Losi kits are _serious_ race trucks. One wonders about the Jato kit truck that has been rumored. Could a robust truck like the Jato ever compete with an AE Factory Team or an Adam Drake Losi?

In any case, those seem to be the available choices for those interested in racing. For pure bashing, the Jato is likely to be unparalleled.

The LHS track near me allows .12 and .15s in the same class so the RTR Jato will probably serve me well. I'd still be interested in a racing kit option.

[72'dolphins]

Originally posted by N80


That got me wondering about what's out there for racing. From Losi there is the XXX-NT. You can get the Adam Drake kit for $260, no motor or electronics. Then there's the sport version RTR, $360, and they list it as an entry level racer for "Sportsman" class. From AE there's the RC10-GT. The Factory Team racing kit is $270. No engine, radio or electronics. The RTR version is also $270. Like the Losi, the RTR lacks most of the serious racing components......
The LHS track near me allows .12 and .15s in the same class so the RTR Jato will probably serve me well. I'd still be interested in a racing kit option.

With all the "race" trucks, it's a hard choice. Then you get the kit/RTR. Get the RTR because it cost less and all set up, or get the Kit and have to put all the stuff in.

[SpeeD-Jr]

Hey guys, I don't know if you noticed but you're kinda out of thread here, I'm not a mod, but I made this thread to get info about how Steve is doing with the Jato, not you with other truck brands.

So Steve did you found your low-bite set-up ?

You raced any this weekend ? ( if yes, what rank you finished? )

And thoses tires Victory are they on the market yet, because I cannot find any of 'em...

[N80]

Notify a moderator if you have a complaint. PM Slayden if you wish to have a private conversation.

[JohnnyRingo]

N80, I think he was trying to tell you to keep the thread on topic, and doing so in a polite way.

[N80]

Originally posted by JohnnyRingo
N80, I think he was trying to tell you to keep the thread on topic, and doing so in a polite way.

And in a similar fashion I reminded him that if he has issues with a post he should notify a mod rather than attempt to mod himself.

I also mentioned that if his objective was to have a two way discussion with someone else, then a PM might be more appropriate.

And take a look at the post. Yes, he may have started it, but it certainly has a life of its own outside of his query to Slayden.

And Mr. Slayden seems not to be participating.