starter box

[SMAXXAland]

i was wondering what are the advantages of a starter box and what are disadvanteges of the starter box for the jato and all other nitro cars and trucks

[moparrr07]

pros- electric starting, less weight on car, simple, no more pull starting

cons- expensive, having to carry around, needs glow starter, charging batteries

[SMAXXAland]

thanks i was wondering because i was looking into getting one but i wanted to know if it was worth it or if it is a waist of money

[OneBigMan647]

Not only does it do what moparrr says, but if you put a backplate on the engine, it gets rid of the startershaft that has a bushing that the engine has to rotate. Putting a backplate will take that bushing out, make the engine faster, and easier to tune because of the decrease crank case area.

[JasonTN]

thats assuming youll be able to use a starter box for the jato

[just_lean_it]

i dont see why you wouldent be able to ...Traxxas even made the Nitro Sport SE to beable to use a starter box. so im sure that you can use one if you chouse.

[J_Bone]

Originally posted by JasonTN
thats assuming youll be able to use a starter box for the jato

If it''s a racer (like Traxxas say's), you should be able to use a starter box.
I would rather use a starter box any day!!

[SMAXXAland]

i was wondering why it is that it is so expenssive to purchase a starter box i just bought one and it is great but so damb expenssive and i ask the guy at the hobby shop about the jato and he said he would be getting one in april so i guess i will find out then if you can use a starter box on it

[myt3rocks]

i am not positive but i am willing to bet you that you can move the pins on most decent starterboxes made for ST's around and make starter boxes work with it. i doubt it will be as hard to starterbox as the revo. I am thinking the ofna and ae starterboxes should most defenatly work. but you never know.

[N80]

I'm sure the starter box is the racers choice, but the problem I see at the track is that when a car stalls, you have to take it all the way back to the pit area. With the hand held starter the truck can be re-started very quickly at trackside.

[OneBigMan647]

Originally posted by N80
I'm sure the starter box is the racers choice, but the problem I see at the track is that when a car stalls, you have to take it all the way back to the pit area. With the hand held starter the truck can be re-started very quickly at trackside.

The pit stop isn't too far from any area of the track. Maybe a 10 second run max.

Besides, it's illegal. According to ROAR rules, you can't work on your car/truck on the track. If your engine stalls or a part breaks, you must take it to the pits and fix it/start it up.

[N80]

1) That's why I said that I'm sure its the racers choice. At least the ROAR racer.

2) Watching, and turn marshalling, the nitro racers at the LHS, where the racing is more casual, they start them whereever they can.

[fs454]

I hate starter boxes, IMO. They are annoying to lug around and I honestly don't see any difference whatsoever because of a tiny weight loss.

I could see them being useful for racing, but if you're only doing a little racing(as in, local, not ROAR), then a pullstart/EZ Start would work fine.

[OneBigMan647]

Originally posted by fs454
I hate starter boxes, IMO. They are annoying to lug around and I honestly don't see any difference whatsoever because of a tiny weight loss.

I could see them being useful for racing, but if you're only doing a little racing(as in, local, not ROAR), then a pullstart/EZ Start would work fine.

Trust me, taking off the starter plate and putting a backplate makes a HUGE difference in acceleration, and it makes the engine easier to tune and a bit more smoother. Try it and you'll see.

[All The Way]

Yes increasing lower crank pressure and removing rotating mass increases HP

[N80]

I'll trust you but it is hard to believe one unloaded bearing makes that much difference.

[OneBigMan647]

Originally posted by N80
I'll trust you but it is hard to believe one unloaded bearing makes that much difference.

The thing it's a bushing and along with it being a bushing, it leaks from the starter shaft. The main power increase comes from taking off the actual ez-start/pull start. The one-way bearing doesn't slip perfectly, the engine still spins it a bit, and with the ez-start, it does spin the gears a bit too, with the pull start it's less drag.

I just got my backplate from RD Racing for my TM and I'll tell you guys if I saw the difference I saw from my 2.5-ez-start to backplate. On my TM there is nothing on the startershaft, so the power increase might be less comparing to going from an ez-start to backplate.

[nitrobasher]

I agree. A big performance improvement can be seen after removing the starter shaft backplate and replacing it with a sealed backplate. The bushing is not a seal. Pressure leaks through the bushing and the shaft which causes less performance. I only bash and I use a starterbox. It is really not much different than carrying arround an ezstart controller or handheld starter.