List your brushless set up here.

[revoeater]

Here is a chance to show what why and where .

please List your brushless set up with motor,esc,and gearing.

please note weight of truck, size of wheels, and any other factors that may be of help to us .


PLEASE DO NOT, MENTION OR BAD MOUTH VENDORS HERE!!



I have not heard what set up i am going to use yet since the lhs and the vendor are still debating on what is good for my truck and the conditions to where i will be running this truck.But in the next day or so i will list what they came up with.

[revoeater]

I just got of the phone with the lhs and the set up i am going with is as followed considering the weight is in the 9lbs range with big joe tires .Schulze 18.61k and a 9L with gearing at 14/72 .So i hope this will do alright for me .

[Timberlake]

I run a C50 with a Schulz 18.97KWF Speed controller

[mikalius]

Timberlake,

Do you have to run a reciever pack with that setup? What kind of run time do you get? And do you know or do you run 7 cells?

[revoeater]

I just got of the phone with the lhs and the set up i am going with is as followed considering the weight is in the 9lbs range with big joe tires .Schulze 18.61k and a 9L with gearing at 14/72 .So i hope this will do alright for me .outkast ,305997 if your out there HELP ME PLEASE..

[Jonyb2002]

Dual Nemesis 10Ls on 2 hacker sports, geared 18/72 40 series bowties, 24 cells. HEAVY

[Timberlake]

Originally posted by mikalius
Timberlake,

Do you have to run a reciever pack with that setup? What kind of run time do you get? And do you know or do you run 7 cells?

Yes I do run it with a reciever pack(I think you have to)
I can not tell you the run times because something always goes wrong with my car (CVDs popingout of the cups,and low batts in the reciever or transmitter).

I do not run 7cells yet but I am going to and I no of people that do run 7 cells with no problems.

[patch]

Nemesis 8L, 18/72 gearing, schulze 18.97wkf, 12 gp3300's, stock truck. Very powerful and fast enough, 12-15 minutes runtime.

patch

[rcmaniac]

Lehner 1920/8 motor
Micro 1895 bec (bk) (using a 6 Volt RX pacK)
gearing...11tPinion/66t spur
12 cells in series
All UE ( except for maximizer diffs)...soon to be UE 7.5's (8's)
cvd's all around ( center included)
Zombie Maxx tires on stock rims
Thermal controlled fan above BL controller
11-12 lbs w/ batts.....
never have thermalled; great speed & torque.......
run time...10-13 minutes give or take a few...
speed in the high 30's to low 40's

[revoeater]

I just got of the phone with the lhs and the set up i am going with is as followed considering the weight is in the 9lbs range with big joe tires .Schulze 18.61k and a 9L with gearing at 14/72 .So i hope this will do alright for me .



ANYONE HERE ..3300 gp 12 cells never to change things up as far as gearing and packs.

[Team-Modellinc]

Hacker C50
Hacker Sport Controller
12 Cells
18/70
Road Rages (not 40series)

41.5mph. vemon speed meter

project street racer.

www.modellinc.com

[revoeater]

well i know most of ya guys say the 18.97 is the way to go but in my sistuation i really dont need to spend the extra money for something that will do the same as it.As i have said before my set up will not change the speed is way more then ya need and the rest of my set up speaks for its self.So while the 18.97 is a better controller the upgrade is not a needed piece in this project the 18.61 will be just fine with the gearing of 14/72 .



KEEP THE SET UPS COMMING ..

[new e max]

lehner 1930-5 / lehner 18-120.
lehner 1940-5/ lehner 18-120
dual hacker c50 6L/ dual hacker master comps
hacker c50 maxx/ hacker master comp
hacker c40 12L/ hacker master comp

[outkast187]

the 18.97 is a much better controller for the job. True, it wont make it any faster, but it is more capable of handling the current. The 61 will scrape by, pullying more than 60 amps alot of the time creating alot of heat which can thermal it ( thats the good option) or smoke. I get high amp spikes even geared really low, no way around it.


schulze 88ce/ 7s
hacker sport/8s
dual schulze 88ce/5300s
dual hacker sports/7XL
dual hacker comps/7XL
aveox L160/RC7
schulze 88ce/RC7
dual schulze 18.97/7XL
schulze 88ce/ 7L
and a couple more......

highest speed....54mph 1st gear dual sports on 16 cells each with XL can, geared 31/54.

[revoeater]

I was told 120 percent this 18.61 will be just fine .remember i am only running 12 cells and will never change to more .and the 14/72 is fine .So give me the math break down on where you guys see this as being a problem.amp = draw +temps .All of these set up have some kind of equasion to figure out excellty what set ups work include weight wheel size where your running it .So you guys have seem my serinerios so show me where this guy who keeps telling me i am not going to have any problems.He thinks just because schulze said buy this one 18.97 all you guys did not knowing that other speed controller at a lesser price would be just fine.AND thats fine but there are different all ones why not buy the biggest one over 600 buck .Why because its not needed for your trucks application i guess the same goes here. But what do i know na da.So when this new set up gets done up i will be back here with the concluesion of this esc deal and this set up Hopefully some day some one can standardize a chart or something so guys like us the newbie can just say yes that set up will do me just right for the amount of money and how i am going to run this truck .

[crowebar]

Revo, I don't believe anyone is saying the 18.61 won't work. I borrowed one the other day and ran it on my 8L truck and never had any trouble. Setup correctly it should work just fine. The advantage of the 18.97 is that you can push things that much harder (Run longer in second gear in tall grass, gear it up for more top end and stuff like that).

Hacker B50 8L / Schulze 18.97 / 12 cells (Extreme Carbon Chassis)
Hacker B50 9L / Schulze 18.97 / 12 cells (Extreme Carbon Chassis)
Hacker B50 7XL / Schulze 157wo / 12 cells (Extreme Carbon Chassis)
Hacker B50 8XL / Schulze 102wo / 18 cells (Bomb Proof Torpedo)
Hacker B50 9XL / Schulze 102wo / 24 cells (Bomb Proof Torpedo)
Lehner 1930/6 in Asterisk mode (makes it about a 12)/ Hacker Master Comp / 12 cells (Stock Chassis)
Aveox 1412 1.5 / Aveox L160c's / 16 cells (Bomb Proof Torpedo)
Dual Aveox 1412 1.5's / Dual Aveox L160c's / 32 cells (Bomb Proof Torpedo)

I've tried a few other combos. But these were my favorite.

[jrc3]

this was a double post that i couldn't delete.

[jrc3]

revoeater,

if you've already bought the 18.61 then use it until or if it craps out. originally i wanted the 18.97, but it was out of stock @ the time. like i said before, i'm running the 18.61, 8L, 16/72, and 12 gp3300 cells and so far, no problems. i have done the capacitor mod and recommend it to be safe, as well as for the warranty. be sure to get a temp gun and check temps frequently. if you don't have a temp gun then get one. i just use the cheap duratrax one. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEMG5&P=ML it's been 80 degrees here and the last time i ran the motor was in the low 140's and the controller was in the 130's. i love those temps.

CF told me to set my timing to "very soft" and the part load freq. to "9khz". in other words, all switches up/on except for number 6. i've never tried anything else because it runs so cool, but i may try a little harder timing. anyone have any thoughts on that.

good luck, jack

[revoeater]

With is 18.61 we tried all switches in the up position except number 6 which should be off for a reverse mode .But that didnt work so they switched the 1 st and 3rd switch off and the rest up and then it had reverse.If ya have any more insight here please share .

[mtrsprt]

Totally stock Emaxx
Basic XL3600
18.97KW
12 cells
1200mah receiver pack
14/66 gearing
38mph

Stock Rustler
Basic 4200
12 cells
18.61K
1200mah receiver pack
17/84 gearing
No speed test yet.

[jrc3]

Originally posted by revoeater
With is 18.61 we tried all switches in the up position except number 6 which should be off for a reverse mode .But that didnt work so they switched the 1 st and 3rd switch off and the rest up and then it had reverse.If ya have any more insight here please share .

reverse has a 2 or 3 second delay. hold it untill it starts to move and keep holding it. i don't like this characteristic of BL controllers, but what can you do. i was told they do this to protect driveline parts. switch 3 is for reverse. w/it off reverse should've worked. switch 2 is for the brakes. w/it down, the brakes are way too hard. set them as CF said and try the reverse again as i stated.

jack

[revoeater]

WEL ,WELL, WELL, the ones who told me to use the 18.97 k and which by the way i listened to but the lhs and the vendor said the 18.61 was a 120 percent no problem deal well it thermaled and the vendor is sending out the 18.97k.MAN this is one messed up deal what a learning experience for me the lhs and the vendor it seems.SO there are a few guys here that know there stuff outkast 305997 hats off to you guys you are the brushless pros .So as it stands a 9L with a 18.97 .geared at 14/72 with 3300 gp matched .WHEW I HOPE I AM DONE .thanks for sharing your advice and i guess we all learned something here .

[mtrsprt]

Can you start putting correct punctuation in your sentences? Most of us really do not know what's going on with your situation.

[patch]

revoeater,

I went through the same decision you did. 18.61 or 18.97.....money being a big factor. But when I looked at the spec's I decided (well you guys helped) on the 18.97 even though it was very expensive.....If the motor draws amps close to the controller your better off getting the bigger one. Casue we always say I'm not into speed or I won't push my emaxx.....Well once you see how much faster it is, it's like an addiction. You'll want more speed. I'm going through the same thing.

I bit the bullet and bought the 18.97 so your not the only one......Someone once told me when I was young "if you believe half the things you see and hear, you'll be OK"

Keep us posted
patch

[revoeater]

hey guys how about the 16/72 with 9L and the 18.97 .i here starluck has nice 5mm bore.

[candyman212]

18.97kwf
plettenberg bigmaxximum
16 cells
24/66 18/51
UE diffs
40 series wheels

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Revoeater, you need to spend a little more time driving and testing and a little less time posting. Just about all of your questions can and will be answered by you testing the stuff you have and experimenting, seeing what works and what doesn't. Try what you have, if the speedo thermals too much get a bigger one, once yor confident with the speed/ heat generated, start to experiment with gearing and or cell count, just be careful when you do it, make subtle changes to avoid cooking anything.

[revoeater]

MR. candyman that would be great but theres one problem .I dont have the truck to do that.And you havent seen my other post to really chime in here .But your experience and advice here would be well takin .If you had seen my prior post then you would know that this is being made by my lhs. I do and will wrench on this as little as possible if something breaks back to the lhs .I just want to plug and play with little to no wrenching .I know ill be doing the little things but the rest is up to them .And at this point they cant even get it to me .That is why my friend i am doing there homework for them and if ya red prior post this is nuts .So the lhs and the vendor think they have it figured out now after the 12s the 18.61 its going to the 9L and the 18.97k .with 14/72 or 16 /72 .SORRY to be so postie but hey i am just shelling out cash for a product i havent recived and i am doing all the research here to get the info to my lhs .And trust me this hobby shop is a hugh shop in illinois nw suburb.And they havent a clue .SO SORRY FOR ASKIN QUESTIONS but i thought thats what ya do here .And if you can help me great if not ok .





I AM NOT in this for trial and errors wasting my money thats why i am here doing reasearch first.There should be a set standard in math to figure out what runs with what .motor=esc=truck weight=gears =speed.YOUR very well in this area so like i said help if ya can thanks alot all you who have put up with me and my project.

[mtrsprt]

The 18.97 is really what you should be chosing for the E-maxx application.

[revoeater]

Hurricane gp3300 6 cell NiMH matched
JR Z590 SERVO Steering
9L brushless
Schulze 18.97k speed control
Hardcore chassis
Traxxas aluminum front and rear bumper
Hot Bodies aluminum hex wheel
Maximizer rear diff
RPM control arms all around
Velocity 6-40 series wheels
BIG JOE 40 series wheels
Integy MSR4 piggy back shocks
Trinity 40 weight shock oil
deans connectors
Trinity monster HEAVY spring set
MIP center CVD,S
MIP shiny cvd kit
Dyanamite aluminum front and rear skid plates
Dyanamite lower chassis braces
Dynanmite 5 mm- 8mm steering rack bearings
Trinity Wheelie bar
72T spur gear.
14 pinion
Weight of truck approx 11.5



well thats it. Any and all input is welcome.But i think we have this where it needs to be .How does all this sound.I think this project is done what do you guys think.

[crowebar]

The truck sounds nice, although I'm a little concerned about the 18.61 thermaling issue, It shouldn't have with the conservative gearing you mentioned.

As I mentioned earlier, I borrowed and ran an 18.61 in my truck with an 8L (a hotter motor then your 9L) and no troubles or thermals at all with 15/66 gearing however, I do use stock diameter tires though. The larger diameter tires that you have chosen may have placed a higher demand on the system. I hope that the 18.97 will be enough for you.

[hughair]

It could also be his driving still dont you think. He might be pushing the truck harder than you were pushing the 8L. That could be part of it also.

[outkast187]

Weather and terrain can also be a factor. Lots of heavy braking, and half throttle running tend to get the controllers very hot.


also,..hughair...I have been wondering this for months..
Is it Hugh Air or Hug Hair? I just always think hug hair, but curious to what it really is.

[hughair]

It's hugh air. One of my buddy was on here a while back and went by big air78. So I went with hugh air. Maybe I should put a dash or something. It signals that I like to go big and catch "hugh air". It's not the first time I've been called hug.

[NetMaji]

Originally posted by hughair
It's hugh air. One of my buddy was on here a while back and went by big air78. So I went with hugh air. Maybe I should put a dash or something. It signals that I like to go big and catch "hugh air". It's not the first time I've been called hug.

hi hug. .

[hughair]

Originally posted by NetMaji


hi hug. .

Funny.... is there a way to add a dash now? I didn't see and option in the profile section.

[crowebar]

Originally posted by hughair
It could also be his driving still dont you think. He might be pushing the truck harder than you were pushing the 8L. That could be part of it also.

That could be it although I wasn't being too easy on it. I ran it the same as I do with my 18.97. Same gears, same conditions. Most of the time I'm running in a 3 acre pasture I keep mowed pretty short. Also some gravel, pavement and jumping a table top jump I built for the trucks.

My setup should have been harder on the controller then his as I was running a taller gear ratio AND an Hacker B50 8L.

The only thing that makes sence to me is the big tires he runs. They must really put a load on the system. I think I'll stay with my bow ties.

[hughair]

I meant his driving style, not "driving still". My brain was asleep when I wrote that. I figured his style of driving could cause more amperage draw. Full throttle and hard braking can cause it to pull the amps more than someone who drives with a smoother style. I'm the latter myself. Others will not jam on the throttle all the time and take it smoother on the throttle. Do you know what I'm saying, I could be wrong on this.

[mac0326]

18.97 - xl3100
58ce - xl2800
18.61 - xl3100
88ce xl4200
warrior 18.70 - xl2800
aveox l360 - rc7
c50 - master sport
c50 - master comp
master comp - xl3600
master comp - 8s
dual 58ce - dual basic 4200
58ce - basic 4200
58ce - xl3100
18.97 - basic 4200
18.97 - c50
18.60 micro - 8s



Tried quite a few other set-ups as well. These are the ones I remember. As soon as I get my BL motors and controllers in stock, I will test many more set-ups as well. I've had both xtreme chassis, the supermaxx lightning chass, dynamite chassis, stock chassis and g-maxx chassis. G-maxx is by far my favorite(which is why I have 4 of them!). Pretty much have had or have all the hopups you could name. My favorite controller has been the 88ce. It never thermalled and handles pretty much any motor. (rated for 10 cells, but I've never run less than 12 on it). xl3100 or xl3600 are my favorite motors so far, although I am looking forward to testing the feigao motors(l and xl cans) when I get them(any day).

[revoeater]

If the weight of the tires is killing me here what do i do .when i did drive it with the big joes pro line 40 it handle real nice but the 12 s and 18.61 14/72 didnt cut it it was way to hot and thermaled. .when i did change to stock tires the truck was real fast and squirlie i could not handle the steering at all .So if this 9L 18.97 dosent handle the weight of this what should i go to .AS far as servo and smaller tires to be able to handle this power .

[305997]

I don't think anyone is suggesting the 18.97 won't handle it. I've ran that motor on a Hacker Comp geared a good bit higher and a heavier truck. It's the current spikes getting the 18.61. The motor draws more like 40-60 amps normally but can pull 100+ amp spikes.