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  1. #1
    coolcarkid01
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    What is cheapest brushless??

    I might want to save up and get a brushless. Ive been driving for 2 months and everyone sais brushless are awesome. Am I ready for it and what exactly is the cheapest brushless you know of?


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    The cheapest brushless motor is a brushed motor with the brushes removed....

    Seriously, that question is an oxymoron since there is no such thing a a cheap brushless setup for the E. It looks like Novak's HV Maxx setup may be the cheapest one when it comes out, but at this point it's just vaporware.

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    Starluckrc.com has the cheapest set ups around.

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    coolcarkid01
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    Outkast which one do you recommend and is all i need s a motor or will i need a system thing? How fast do they go if you know and do i need to get an esc or will i need just a motor. What all will i need?


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    A brushless motor needs a brushless controller.

    So a BL setup would have to include at least 1 ESC and 1 motor.
    And the ESC is typically 2-3 times the price of the motor.

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    coolcarkid01
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    so i would need a motor esc and controller or just motor and esc??

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    you will need just one motor and controller(esc). But you also will need good batteries. From everything i have read and seen good batteries(gp 3300`s) are the only way to go on an emaxx. Of coarse going bl will also put more strain on the rest of the truck so be prepaired for breakage.

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    controller = Electronic Speed controller aka ESC.

    BL needs at least 1 motor and 1 esc.

    More complex setups are not uncommon. I'm not expert here, since I am still on the outside looking in. my buddy and I have 6 e-maxxs but none are BL.

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    coolcarkid01
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    KDOGG: I have the peak racing 3000. would those work and when you say breakage do you mean like stuff breaking?

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    Tervuren
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    www.starluckrc.com is the best place to get a not so expensive BL system. You can contact them, and get a setup worked out for what you want, they are very knowledgeable.

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    In order to go Brushles you are goni gto have to upgrade your diffs (UE is the best way to go). Your Driveshafts to cvds (UE or MIP). Your tranny most likely, but not needed. Also you are gonig to need dean plugs instead of stock tamiy aplugs on your batteries and esc.Upgrade all that before you eve nthink about brushless. Right now it loks like you are going to have to learn a little more about your truck before you jump into the big stuff. Also You are going to have to wait until the new Hacker controller comes out because al the other controlelrs are either way to expensive for youor are gonig to burn up if you do one thing wrong.

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    Tervuren
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    You will not have to upgrade anything, just don't jerk things.

    The fist thing I would do, is switch over all your batts and chargers to deans, which aslo require you diong the EVX. The power most BL setups use will fry your stock connectors.

    Next, learn to drive smoothly, BL's have a lot of power, and if you jerk things, you are much more likely to break things, and on a track, you cna loose time to tire spin.

    Then, I would start to learn about the different systems out there, starluckrc can probably help you out, probably by the time you are ready to go brushlles, Castle's maxx controller will be out, which is under $200, with a motor just over $100, you will be spending about $300 for your setup.

    Drivetrain wse, I would see what you need, I personly run stock front, and CVD's rear, and UE idlers. I use stock traxxas diff gears in the UE VBS diff cases. The traxxas gears are very well done, the one problem is the 2mm screws they use, they can shear under hard sudden aplications of power.

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    Its really all about driving style...

    I personally broke the 2mm screws in my diffs a little over a dozen times. Then I upgraded to kippster. Since then, no diff problems.

    I do however reccomend getting cvds. The stock ones bent after a while with titans.

    Again, its all about driving style... if you can control your finger, its all good. (I know I can't)
    E-maxx-Nemesis 10L powered

  14. #14
    Halo=fun
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    Smile hey guys its time for me to lose my brushes

    I've been into the emaxx for about a little over a year now, and I know I'm ready to go faster, cuz this 29 mph isnt quenching my thirst for speed. I know my truck is definely ready to go brushless ( I have a BPP torpedo chassis, upgraded diffs, cvds all around and the huge titanium center shaft from BPP, and a bunch of Rpm shizz....) but I want to get a brushless thats going to destroy whatever it goes over... be it my dumb neighbors lawn... or his stupid cat... or whatever... so you guys have any suggestions...? I was looking at the website you posted Outkast and are you sure those motors are strong enough for an emaxx... they are only 540 sized... what size is the C50?

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    the C50 is about 550 size I think, just contact Jamie about his motors he will get you setup. I think all you need are the UE idlers and a RRP slipper (or better)your truck should be perfect for BL power.

    ~Alex

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    540/550/600..........

    The 540 refers to the 36mm diameter cans that most are familiar with. S, L, and XL refer to rotor lengths. What would a 550 brushless be? Something with the torque of a Titan? Something with the power output of a Titan? As long as it is the same diameter and rotor length as a Titan? But then what does that tell you.......that it performs like a Titan?

    Look at the current ratings instead. A motor that pulls 10 amps at 14V can only give out 140W if it was 100% efficient. A motor that pulls 50 amps at 14V can put out a lot more power and definitely doesn't desired to be put in the same class.

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