ESC and STockish Motors

[Jeep21]

WHats up guys,

just got my stampede, and i'm looking for at least 40 Bucks. BUT i want to stay with just a fast stock motor right now, instead of Modified. My friends dusted me last night... so i'm not to happy about that, i'm sure guys understand.

I've been looking at the Trinity Monster Stock Pro/ and the RUNNER PLUS REVERSE DIGITAL ESC. WHat are you guys opinion on this, i am open to anything, i just want at LEAST 40 MPH, i will order what is necessary to get it.

Jeepo

[stupid pede]

well the only way to hit 40 is to go bruslhess, like the novak supersport hope that helps and welcome to the forums

[Jeep21]

Well my friend has the Monster Stock Pro http://www.teamtrinity.com/motors/motorspecs.asp under the stock section. THe brushless would be way faster than that i am assuming. Does anyone feel like telling this newby WHY ?

[arceeguy]

You'd be much better off with a modified motor, and an ESC that can handle the motor.

A good quality 14-15T motor will push you in the mid-high 20's with a quality 6 cell pack. Not the 40 you are looking for, but much faster than any stock motor will get you.

What kind of batteries do you have? You'll want halfway decent packs to realize the gain that a modified motor can give you.

[Highlanduh]

A stock motor won't even get you mid-20's and is a horrible choice for a Stampede.
They produce so little torque at low rpm that acceleration is absolutely pitiful.

If you want fast without going brushless, a D5 14x1, properly geared and reasonably timed, will get you 30mph on 7 HQ cells.

To go beyond that with a brushed setup, you'd be into very high maintenance, like cutting the comm and replacing brushes every 1-2 runs.

Also, a 'Pede is uncontrollable when it's going much over 30mph, except in a straight line.

[Highlanduh]

Originally posted by stupid pede
well the only way to hit 40 is to go bruslhess, like the novak supersport hope that helps and welcome to the forums

Actually, I don't think the Novak SS will do 40mph in a 'Pede without extreme overgearing, if at all.

I think 30-35mph is more likely with proper gearing.

[Jeep21]

Originally posted by Highlanduh

Actually, I don't think the Novak SS will do 40mph in a 'Pede without extreme overgearing, if at all.

I think 30-35mph is more likely with proper gearing.

Thats about what i'm looking for, what kind of gear setup should i use to get that speed.

[stupid pede]

Originally posted by Highlanduh

Actually, I don't think the Novak SS will do 40mph in a 'Pede without extreme overgearing, if at all.

I think 30-35mph is more likely with proper gearing.

I diden't say you should drive it with the gearing it would take but he said he was racing his friend and wanted speed

[Jeep21]

WEll there is an oval track, and a all terain track to run the stampede on, i want whatevers the best for the combination of the 2. He is running a Monster Green 3 Pro

and i want whatever will compete with that

[Jeep21]

Guys i want to try to keep it under 150 bucks for motor, and esc if i can. I am aiming for at the LEast 30 mph

[stampede720]

Originally posted by Jeep21
Guys i want to try to keep it under 150 bucks for motor, and esc if i can. I am aiming for at the LEast 30 mph

I'd buy an LRP F1 Super Reverse ($75) and a Speed Gems Pro Kobal ($30), so you'll have $45 left to buy some necessary hopups (RPM front/rear carriers, 5x11 bearings to go in the carriers, RPM front bumper, Traxxas aluminum idler, maybe some aluminum shock caps, new pinion/spur-go 12/93 with no gear cover-, etc. etc.). That'll be close to 30 MPH if you have good batteries. If you don't have good batteries, it won't even be close.

Regardless, it's going to feel like your going VERY fast.

[arceeguy]

Originally posted by Jeep21
He is running a Monster Green 3 Pro and i want whatever will compete with that

Not a very hard thing to beat.
A 20 dollar 17T Kyosho Atomic Force will vaporize a 27T stock motor. Is it a "revenge of the Monster Stock" or a "Green Machine 3"? (Doesn't matter - both are 27T stock racing motors)

Your concern should be handling and suspension. If your buddy is running a stadium truck like a Rustler - he will have much better cornering ability than your 'pede.

[lupuseven]

here is what I just bought on this thread
http://monster.traxxas.com/showthrea...hreadid=229765

It cost me about $125 motor, esc, pinion, and lead wires. at hobby people. I went to the store so not sure what the shipping would be.

I am please and its fast.

[Jeep21]

721 i looked at that LRP and i liked it very much, my friend has the LRP IPC 8359 Version. If i do get an LRP it would need to be better than that. So far i haven't found any ratings on how LRP ESCs are comparison wise.

As for the motor, i would be willin to spend up to 100 Dollars on a motor, so if that opens any doors, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST, again i'm looking 30 PLUS here.

ALso, what about the weight factor, how can i drop my pede a few pounds? WHat all have you guys done to your pede to make it lighter, which contributes to its speed?

The LRp is what i was looking at now, but that Novak ss 5800 looks nice, what about the other verson the 4300? will that dust the Green Machine Pro 3 easily as well.

AS for my batteries, i have a 2400 without a charger, use my friends, but again, once you guys put together a nice set up for me, i'll be ready to order. Credit Limit is still to far away on my card . We gotta fix that

[NetMagi]

I'm of the opinion that if you wanna go crazy fast. . just skip brushed all together.

Some ppl on here recommended against it, but I went right from stock to the Novak SS (after doing 5x11 bearings, idler, etc.) and I LOVE it. It took me a few packs to 'learn how to drive again' with that much power. . but it's great.

If you can afford to go right to the Novak SS, do it. . . You won't be sorry, and all your friends will be wondering how to keep up with you instead of the other way around

The only thing that's going to beat the SS is a 10 or 12 turn HIGH-maintenance brushed setup, or some other brushless combo (hacker, lehner, etc.)

-Rich

[crazyrcer]

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[stampede720]

Originally posted by Jeep21
721 i looked at that LRP and i liked it very much, my friend has the LRP IPC 8359 Version. If i do get an LRP it would need to be better than that. So far i haven't found any ratings on how LRP ESCs are comparison wise.

As for the motor, i would be willin to spend up to 100 Dollars on a motor, so if that opens any doors, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO POST, again i'm looking 30 PLUS here.

ALso, what about the weight factor, how can i drop my pede a few pounds? WHat all have you guys done to your pede to make it lighter, which contributes to its speed?

The LRp is what i was looking at now, but that Novak ss 5800 looks nice, what about the other verson the 4300? will that dust the Green Machine Pro 3 easily as well.

AS for my batteries, i have a 2400 without a charger, use my friends, but again, once you guys put together a nice set up for me, i'll be ready to order. Credit Limit is still to far away on my card . We gotta fix that

As best I can tell, the part #8359 is the IPC Super Sport, and looking at the specs, the Super would be fairly matched, but it would have reverse. ESC's are not the most important thing to have if you're just looking to outrun someone.

Get the stuff I told you if you want to go near 30. A $100 motor would be powerful, but really it doesn't make as big a difference as a brushless would. BL is the only way to go that fast and do it well(consistently) IMO. If you buy that $100 motor and don't have the access to a lathe to maintain it, then you'll end up blowing another $100 in a few months on another motor.

You can beat him with your stock ESC, with the motor that arceeguy suggested for $20. Maybe $30 for some good tires, and you could probably run circles around your friend (if you're good). I won't deny that the 'Pede wasn't made to race, though.

Good luck!