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dcsally97
11-13-2011, 06:47 PM
I am waiting for a set of SPC 2s lipos for my ERBE. How much better will these make the truck compared to the dog stock batteries? I hate driving it because of the Traxxas batteries. It is borderline embarassing!!!

mistercrash
11-13-2011, 06:58 PM
You should be very delighted with the performance of your new lipos. What you considered borderline embarrassing before will suddenly become borderline dangerous http://www.helifreak.com/images/smilies/thumbup.gif

dcsally97
11-13-2011, 07:28 PM
Well, I know the difference on my Pede between 2s and 3s and I was amazed!! I am hoping that 4s total will propel this big truck the way I'd like it to be propelled! I may have to set the esc to be a little sluggish off the start. I don't want to use my spoiler as a wheelie bar.

87 GN
11-13-2011, 08:01 PM
You will be happy with 2/2s what gearing are you going to use? I'm running 21/54, as always watch your temps.

dcsally97
11-13-2011, 08:06 PM
I figure stock gearing for now. I only have the extra spur, and no pinions yet. It will take me some time to build up extra parts for this truck.

LaTuFu
11-13-2011, 08:50 PM
You will want to swap out the spurs before you run the 4s. You will be amazed at the difference. It became a completely different truck for me after getting 4s.

mwi
11-14-2011, 06:44 AM
With Lipos (2/2s) your truck will transform from a big well build toy truck to a truck that you will then realise why is build so well and engineered the way it is.... though some upgrades might be relevant according to driving style and driving grounds...but upgrade a long the way to cover your needs. otherwise some upgrades recommended by others may never be relevant to you

ksb51rl
11-14-2011, 09:18 AM
Which of the SPC Racing 2S packs did you order? They have a nice selection for the E-Revo now. I've been happy with the performance of the 4700s*, 6000s, and 8000s. I never tried the (old-style) 5000s though.

*Appropriately geared.

BL-Bob
11-14-2011, 10:10 AM
I know what you mean by how your ERBE is embarrassing you. A danger factor should separate your Traxxas vehicles from Tyco vehicles at all times to avoid shame. This factor increases the older you get.

dcsally97
11-14-2011, 04:14 PM
ksb- They are the 5400mAh 50c 2s. I have been using Promatch batteries in my Pede. I have a 5000mAh 25c 2s and a 5200mAh 50c 3s. Both of those batteries are awesome, I hope the SPC will perform as well.

LaTuFu- Did the spur change just give you more speed? I am still trying to get used to the
4wd.

mwi- What upgrades would you suggest?

LaTuFu
11-14-2011, 05:58 PM
Yes, the spur change increases the speed. It will also keep your ESC, Motor, and batteries happy with the increased power.

Easy to do, all you need to do is swap it out for the 54T one that came with the truck's extra parts and tools.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 06:24 PM
Hot motor + cool esc = under geared.
Cool motor + hot esc = over geared
Everything warm just right..

dcsally97
11-14-2011, 06:29 PM
87- I have seen that formula before. I have a temp gun so I will monitor that way. I figure this motor wont get as hot as the Velineon, I could be wrong though. What do you guys suggest for the slipper adjustment? My Pede on 3s is no more than 1/4turn backed off.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 06:48 PM
Kind of a feel thing, but locked down then back off a 1/4 to 1/2 turn. You can hear it if it is to loose..

dcsally97
11-14-2011, 08:10 PM
Okay, so I just changed the spur......not too happy with the setup. I wasn't expecting the pads to just fall off, and the gear mesh is difficult to see. It also seems to be rubbing the gear cover after the gear change. Could you guys please give me some tips? I like this truck a lot, and I don't want to be overwhelmed working on it.

ksb51rl
11-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Okay, so I just changed the spur......not too happy with the setup. I wasn't expecting the pads to just fall off, yeah they do that and the gear mesh is difficult to see. Why do you need to see the mesh? Don't you do it by feel? It also seems to be rubbing the gear cover after the gear change. If that's true, then the spur is not attached correctly. Could you guys please give me some tips? I like this truck a lot, and I don't want to be overwhelmed working on it.
No overwhelming allowed! We're here to help.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 08:56 PM
If the spur is now rubbing on the cover you have the spur on backwards. Turn it over & remount.;)
I did it too..:mellow:

dcsally97
11-14-2011, 08:57 PM
^Thank goodness for that. I have always wanted one of these trucks.

I am used to doing it by sight on my Pede. By feel on this truck is different since the gears don't spin as smoothly. I guess partly because it is 4wd and partly because of the 32p gearing. What am I looking for? I will check the spur again and see what is rubbing.

dcsally97
11-14-2011, 08:58 PM
I mounted the 54t spur with the numbers out....incorrect?

ksb51rl
11-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Hold the pinion. Rock the spur. It should rock back and forth slightly. It should do this all the way around the spur. Don't just check one spot - check at least four.

I was thinking the spur wasn't seated correctly. Numbers out is correct.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 09:17 PM
##'s out is correct, my Q&A is why did the pads fall off. Unless you took apart the slipper, to change the spur??

edit post #61 http://traxxas.com/forums/showthread.php?8922029-SumRevo/page2

ksb51rl
11-14-2011, 09:23 PM
##'s out is correct, my Q&A is why did the pads fall off. Unless you took apart the slipper, to change the spur??Yes, it wasn't necessary to take the slipper off to change the spur, but it wasn't such a bad thing.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 10:02 PM
I take the top bolt out of the motor, pivit it out of the way. Take the three screws off that are holding the spur. Take the spur off, install next spur & replace all screws.
I don't take the nut & spring off the slipper, or it will all come apart.... So do you take the hole slippper apart to just change the spur??

ksb51rl
11-14-2011, 10:10 PM
the "whole" slipper
Nope. Not usually. Just the last time when I also replaced the pads with a T-Maxx brake disk.

87 GN
11-14-2011, 10:19 PM
I have read about the brake disk, & have seen the mod. Does it work as well as they say?? I don't remember what material, the brake disk?? Thanks..

Sorry OP for taking over your thread, did you get it togehter??..:unsure:

mwi
11-15-2011, 01:14 AM
ksb- They are the 5400mAh 50c 2s. I have been using Promatch batteries in my Pede. I have a 5000mAh 25c 2s and a 5200mAh 50c 3s. Both of those batteries are awesome, I hope the SPC will perform as well.

LaTuFu- Did the spur change just give you more speed? I am still trying to get used to the
4wd.

mwi- What upgrades would you suggest?

Actually none right now :-) IMO you upgrade when you find the weak points of your truck when it comes to your driving style and where you drive and if you become a racer, a basher, a jump fanatic....

common upgrade points are (to list some)

Driveshafts, rear and front arms, springs and oil, tires and rims...

The first thing that is worn by BL power is probably the tires

BL-Bob
11-15-2011, 06:43 AM
1st get your operators manual out of its sealed baggy then read it. It was tons of help for me.

[QUOTE=87 GN;4965250]##'s out is correct, my Q&A is why did the pads fall off. Unless you took apart the slipper, to change the spur??

^I knew somebody that use to do this also.

OP: The gears rotate chunky feeling because of the motor design. It's normal.

ecopsorn
11-15-2011, 10:46 AM
I take the top bolt out of the motor, pivit it out of the way. Take the three screws off that are holding the spur. Take the spur off, install next spur & replace all screws.
I don't take the nut & spring off the slipper, or it will all come apart.... So do you take the hole slippper apart to just change the spur??

haha that's what I did as well. It's not so hard to put it together again though. But thanks man, good to know that it's not necessary to take everything apart :P

dcsally97
11-15-2011, 07:23 PM
I have read the manual front to back several times. The manual is an issue with me since it isn't ERBE specific. I disassembled the slipper as stated and that is much easier. Question though, are these spurs prone to wobble like the 48p spurs. I tightened them slowly until snug. I didn't tighten one all they way down, I went from screw to screw until they were all tightened down. I am still getting a rubbing noise from the gear cover, not sure why???

87 GN
11-15-2011, 07:56 PM
Still rubbing, humm odd, slipper is back together correctly. Run the truck with with the cover off do you still hear rubbing? Sure it is rubbing the cover?

LaTuFu
11-15-2011, 08:49 PM
Post some pics of what you're working with, maybe that will help us do a better job of troubleshooting with you.

If you have a smartphone/iphone/ipod, Tapatalk (forum app available for Android and iOS) and the camera on your phone are your friends. :D

dcsally97
11-16-2011, 06:12 PM
As requested here are the pictures. I still don't see anything. Perhaps the gear cover is molded poorly. Is there different gear covers available? I was also surprised that the friction pads are metal. I figured they would look like the 48p counterparts. I assume this motor/esc combo would eat that kind of pad up.

http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx270/dcsally97/102_0414.jpg?t=1321488303
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx270/dcsally97/102_0416-1.jpg?t=1321488328
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx270/dcsally97/102_0413.jpg?t=1321488352
http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx270/dcsally97/102_0406.jpg?t=1321488384
Sorry about the blur on the last picture. Macro was used, I was too close.

anr2442
11-16-2011, 06:20 PM
My spur rubbed when i used to run it. Just take it off and scrape away a bit with a razor blade. There's really no need to keep the cover on unless you are picky about your truck. If anything it should help the slipper breath a little better.

I had that same wiggle in my rustler when i would reassemble the center nut and spring a lil of center. Mine still wobbles a bit even after repeated attempts.

dcsally97
11-16-2011, 06:38 PM
Picky about my truck? lol, that would be me!!

87 GN
11-16-2011, 06:48 PM
Those are the HD pads I think they call them, they are alum.. All looks ok, IDK. Only thing I might not see is the clutch disk plate, that the pads run on. Humm.

dcsally97
11-16-2011, 07:00 PM
87- If you look at the second picture you can see it. I know it's on there because I was cussing it when I took apart the whole assembly.