View Full Version : Use any motor in the Villian
03-30-2001, 05:05 PM
Why go crazy looking for a reverse rotation motor???,,,
Almost all motors are designed to spin counterclockwise for normal rotation, just find out which motor it is in the villian, & get 2 of these matching rotation octura props!,,, then you're free to use any motor, even stockers!,,,
03-31-2001, 02:07 PM
Well said, pooycow. Oldboy, do you think they designed it the way they did it so it would be harder ot upgrade.
03-31-2001, 04:56 PM
Baloney!!,,, ask me about My boat!,,, a 22' Celebrity with twin 205hp OMC V-6 I/O's with BOTH PROPS SPINNING CLOCKWISE AS DESIGNED & MADE FROM THE FACTORY!!!,, and I have NO PROBLEMS! with it,,, and I know of quite a few boats that work fine set up this same way!,,, of course I have power steering on it, but I've noticed no steering problems,,, although I have noticed torque steer on a single outboard, or outdrive in the past,,,
03-31-2001, 06:05 PM
Why the **** would you need twin 205hp engines on a 22ft boat?!? I'll bet that thing wastes the gas away, and paying the gas at marinas! ouch in the wallet!
Plus, chase, how different is an RC boat and a real boat? It seems like they would be different in a way. i dunno.
- Rick -
Can't beat a 2000 Cobra Mustang, can ya?
03-31-2001, 06:38 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, why in the world would u need power steering for two lil meesly 205 hp engines?????????, power steering (hydraulics), are desinged for 500 hp in up motors, We have a 36 ft. Baja outlaw with twin 700 SC hp engines on it with latham power steering and huge big k planes trim tabs, so really there is no use for power steering, and why would anyone stick twin engines on a lil 22 foot boat, for crying aloud the boat cant handle that kinda thing, u people are just bruning money for no apparent reason, http://www.traxxas.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
03-31-2001, 10:57 PM
It is a one of a kind, custom from the factory, Celebrity "Andretti Edition",,, twin 4.3 chevvy V-6's,,, and for your information Blastmanjer almost every I/O out there 18' or bigger has power steering as standard equipment, plus it's smoother, quieter, & much better on gas then a big Baja! apparently u don't know much about boats, probably you're too young, and it's Daddy's boat!,,, talk about burning money, I guess u got it to burn!,,, a 36' Baha speedboat that has no other purpose then to go fast, make noise, & use gas!,,, gimme a break!!!,,,
04-01-2001, 12:01 AM
yeah, but if the propellers rotate the same way it will 'pull' the back end of the boat to one side, and even id you counteract this with the trim on your transmitter you will get too much steering on one side and not enough on the other!
04-01-2001, 12:41 AM
Why else would you buy a boat with some outragous motors?? http://www.traxxas.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Gotta have horsepower and noise man. The reason for counter-rotating props is so that the boat won't torque to one side when you throttle it. Being a professional boater yourself should know this. It's like in your vehicle if you happen to have a rear wheel drive. IF you gas it does not the car lean to one side? Most twin engine boats are counter rotating. It also affects the tracking (steering) of the boat. The thing with power boats is that the counterrotating is accomplished in the outdrives or transmission if it is a inboard. Steering torque can be eliminated by trimming the boat on plane to the proper amount. And there is nothing wrong with using daddy's boat. Why would I want to pay for a boat, buy insurance and tags when I can just use my father's for the cost of gas and parts? Sounds wise to me.
Villianous Metal Stampeder!
[This message has been edited by jrgentry78 (edited 04-01-2001).]
04-01-2001, 10:49 AM
Dang, my friend has a 31' catamaran with twin 225 hp engines and it will do 50-60 in heavy water; if you're telling the truth (which I have a feeling you aren't) a 22' boat with 2 200 hp engines wouldn't be able to float.
04-01-2001, 01:29 PM
i have a speed boat (well its my dads) and it is 14ft long, it doesn't have an engine yet, but we are thinking of getting a 35hp outboard for it!
04-01-2001, 03:52 PM
Is it like a mercury mouse?
04-01-2001, 04:28 PM
Most boats including our MasterCraft ski boat steers to one side on its own
04-01-2001, 04:41 PM
Thats just becasue if u turn left ur driving the outdrive or rudder against water, and if u let go of the steering wheel it will trun straight, simple.
04-02-2001, 12:00 AM
Il break u off with something oldboy, you cant go off sayin that i dont know anything about boats, i know almost everything there is to know, and whats the purpose of having two engines in a lil boat, skieng behind that thing, would be suicidal, really im not spending 280,000$ and plus insurance, and taxes on the thing, just let my dad do it, im 16 so i can drive whenever i want, without my parents worrying about me. whats the purpose of a 22 FOOT BOAT?!?!?! with twin engines?, u give me a break, that has no purpose, those boats arent designed to be fast, but to be a recrational, fun, and a family boat, but when u stick two engines in that lil of a boat...... first of all how could u get that thing on plane? i dont see how they could fit in a little boat like that, im sorry i just dont, and personally i dont think u know what u are talking about, it seems like u dont know a thing about boats because if u did u would know that.....
04-02-2001, 12:39 AM
Oh and by the way, power steering is not standerd its completly optional, you must not know what power steering is.
04-02-2001, 07:02 AM
Ok Blastmanjer, u go on believing what u want, keep your head n the sand if u like!,,, I am old enough to be your father, so respect your elders for their life experience!,,, and I've had enough boating experience, driven & owned enough boats, to know about power steering, & WHAT steering torque IS!,,, my boat is just what it is, a pocket sized, 22.5ft. large cuddy speedboat, with bolster seats & 2 OMC chevvy truck V-6's,,, as opposed to the norm (single 350 chevy V-8 260hp mercruiser setup),,, not much different from a 25'Formula, or 25'Chris Craft Stinger, each with twin 260's as normally set up,,, It's great for cruising around the small bay where I live, but not an ocean racer like a Baha,,, and, the whole point I was tryin to make, before u went off the handle, to put me down!, IS, I have twin props that rotate the same way, and it works fine for me!,,, thought I'd pass along the info to try & help other people out!,,, give them possible ideas, I am new to this forum, but not new to life, I didn't come here to put anyone down!,,, but I also won't stand for being put down myself!!!,,,
04-02-2001, 10:33 AM
i don't know what the boat is, but it is made in england (where i live)!
04-02-2001, 10:35 AM
and its 4 seater too!
04-02-2001, 03:46 PM
This has gone way over the top.
Oldboy, I respect what you are trying to say, but the differences between an RC boat and a real boat are huge.
First of all, the boat you have has a hull designed for smooth riding and recreation. The Villain is a cigarette boat with a different hull design, which leads to totally different handling and speed potential.
Second of all, the Villain has a mot more HP per lb. than your boat, so differences such as motor and propeller configuration will have a much more noticeable change in handling and speed.
Third of all, operating on a small boat (1/12) going 20 MPH is the equivalent of a real boat going 240 MPH. You try to get your boat up that fast and you will quickly see how much of a difference propeller and motor configuration make.
I may only be a teenager, but I have thought this through and experimented myself and can tell you that putting both the motors in the same direction and having the same propellers will not only SLOW the boat down, but will make the handling erratic and unstable. Not to mention the lack of a rooster tail and virtually NO steering in one direction.
Hope this helps to put everything into perspective.
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