Please Listen Traxxas - Lets call it 1/10 or 1/12!

[brushlessbandit]

its got the specs of other 1/10 touring/drift cars, why can't it be one?
I'd really love to see it be put in the same class as the others.

Lets discuss.

If all else fails, I might build my own.
Think tenbol (if needed) for 1/10 system and revo extra wheelbase arms. Maybe some revo cvd's (since they'll now fit) and negative or zero offset rims? (anyone know of any?)

[Emaxx2.0]

This car wheelbase is way shorter then a 1/10th TC. I have my losi XXX-S and JRX-S next to my t4(which has a longer wheelbase then the rustler) and the losi's wheelbase is slighty shorter then the T4's. Also this car will be underpowered compare to the 1/10th TC b/c it's using 380 size motors, not 540 and the fact you'll need 2 packs to hit close to standard TC speeds. So this car is probably heavier then a TC.

[bjoehandley]

I'll be honest, stock with 1 pack, it'll be as fast if not faster than many of the RTR TC's were, will flat blow the doors off a stock Tamiya M-Car (probably wouldn't keep up with My M-03, but then again, I can probably run with the big VXL's, B.E. Maxx and Revo's, and the 3.3 4-Tec and Jato:lol: ) and would give a well built HPI Cup Car a run for it's money.

[Emaxx2.0]

I'll be honest, stock with 1 pack, it'll be as fast if not faster than many of the RTR TC's were, will flat blow the doors off a stock Tamiya M-Car (probably wouldn't keep up with My M-03, but then again, I can probably run with the big VXL's, B.E. Maxx and Revo's, and the 3.3 4-Tec and Jato:lol: ) and would give a well built HPI Cup Car a run for it's money.
It might, the cars you mention uses 540. The Rally VXl uses a 380. Stock setup, I can see this little car flying but put a 5700 in a Cup racer then lets see. I know most TC with 17.5t are easily pushing 30mph.

[CoolestDinosoar]

If this was a larger 1/10 scale, it would be mine the second it hits the shelf.
I have been looking for a 1/10 TC, but traxxas doesnt sell the 4-tec anymore, and I was having a hard time finding one for a good enough price, but I decided I wanted to buy a brand new car anyway
now traxxas HAS TC, but NOT THE RIGHT SCALE
UGH
I want to buy traxxas!

[brushlessbandit]

emaxx is correct over me.

But I might make one.

emaxx2.0 do you have the wheelbase of your RC's?

[grimeyspecv]

It might, the cars you mention uses 540. The Rally VXl uses a 380. Stock setup, I can see this little car flying but put a 5700 in a Cup racer then lets see. I know most TC with 17.5t are easily pushing 30mph.

im planing on geting one. i have a BB merv and plan on putting in in the rally to see what it can do

[thekillerkid]

+1. I hava a tekin redline 7.5t with a mmp waiting for this thing. The bb would be much nicer in the rally since it is so low to the ground to begin with that raising the center of gravity a litle bit won't make much of a difference

[grimeyspecv]

^ My thoughts exactly,

[Emaxx2.0]

emaxx is correct over me.

But I might make one.

emaxx2.0 do you have the wheelbase of your RC's?
Losi JRX-S type-R has a 259mm wheelbase in manual setup. It can be setup for longer. It's also around 190mm wide. Overall length is 378mm and has a ground clearence of 4-8mm depending on tires or ride height. But you can't compare a high proformance TC to a rtr. We're talking super low center of gravity, equal weight distribution, and super light weight. Most Tc are design strictly for racing and has more adjustments then the space shuttle. My Losi JRX-S is consider out dated. The problem with 1/10 on-road market today is there are no basher. I'll never spend 400-500 just on a kit then go bashing...

[eurofocus]

Well I mind as well get my two cents in this thread as well! Liscenced rally bodies please! Ken Block Ford Focus and Fiesta, the late and great Colin McRae Ford Focus, some Subaru WRX bodies, etc. I guarantee you'll have interest, the market for WRC is booming! And with this powerhouse that looks nothing like a 1/16 scale (much larger actually) it will turn heads no doubt! You've got replica wheels, now do the right thing and get into replica bodies! Please... :)

[Emaxx2.0]

Well I mind as well get my two cents in this thread as well! Liscenced rally bodies please! Ken Block Ford Focus and Fiesta, the late and great Colin McRae Ford Focus, some Subaru WRX bodies, etc. I guarantee you'll have interest, the market for WRC is booming! And with this powerhouse that looks nothing like a 1/16 scale (much larger actually) it will turn heads no doubt! You've got replica wheels, now do the right thing and get into replica bodies! Please... :)
Well, HPI and kyosho makes liscense bodies and wheels but for 1/10th.

[SnoopMaxx]

Well, HPI and kyosho makes license bodies and wheels but for 1/10th.
It won't be long b4 they have those WRC body's out

Pro-Line, Jconsept are you listening :D

Morten

[Mr. eXtreme]

If this was a larger 1/10 scale, it would be mine the second it hits the shelf.
I have been looking for a 1/10 TC, but traxxas doesnt sell the 4-tec anymore, and I was having a hard time finding one for a good enough price, but I decided I wanted to buy a brand new car anyway
now traxxas HAS TC, but NOT THE RIGHT SCALE
UGH
I want to buy traxxas!


X2 Will probably end up with a 1/16 anyway...

But C-Mon Traxxas is this just a hint to the 1/10 or 1/8 scale TC your going to have later???

If so I CAN"T WAIT FOR THEN!!!!

[SnoopMaxx]

A 2,2" longer chassis would make it fit a 10th scale rally body

I saw one in a thread earlier, but who would be the first to make an extended chassis available to all ???

Morten

[Stockslasher]

I agree that this is not a 16th scale car. The wheels are 10th scale already and show me the difference in wheelbase between the new Ford fiesta and a Mustang. This is a short wheelbase 10th scale rally car.

I have a Mini Slash that I converted to a BackSlash using a Mini Inferno buggy body and serverly modified chassis (much like the G3 for the REVO). I raced this car on carpet with 10th scale foams and it was so much faster than the other Minis that the class failed to sustain. Those that have the Mini slash killed the class.

I am planning to convert my Mini slash to a Rally car with the bumper, body mounts, and springs. I will get the clear body so I can paint it like a WRC rally car.

The stock chassis is not perfect for road or carpet but you have to start somewhere. I think Traxxas has created a really nice product out of a model base that has lost the public interest. My Mini Slash is in a box not doing anything. Now it will come out of the box for fun at home and the carpet track.

[Revocanuck]

HPI and Tamiya both had/have some sorta rally car and do they even sell well?Rally at best is a niche segment and the limitation of performing like a off road vehicle is why it`s never taken off.
Also I have to ask is their even a big rally event in the United states?

[brushlessbandit]

Extended chassis is a great idea!

Compared ~8 inch wheelbase (rally) to 98 inch wheelbase (fiesta) there is about 1/12 scale to the real deal.

[CoolestDinosoar]

X2 Will probably end up with a 1/16 anyway...

But C-Mon Traxxas is this just a hint to the 1/10 or 1/8 scale TC your going to have later???

If so I CAN"T WAIT FOR THEN!!!!
Im waiting out for the iHobby expo in 2 days...
I have the RSS feeds from like 5 different RC blogs, ready to get any news about anything as soon as it appears.
if they were going to show something new, or even a prototype, it would probably be there.

[SnoopMaxx]

HPI and Tamiya both had/have some sorta rally car and do they even sell well?Rally at best is a niche segment and the limitation of performing like a off road vehicle is why it`s never taken off.
Also I have to ask is their even a big rally event in the United states?

Well Travis Pastrana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Pastrana) has won the Rally America (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_America) 4 times out of 6

I have had both the HPI and Tamiya Rally cars
but they were just 200mm wide touring cars with rally tyres and a body to match
The best Rally car I have is my TC3 with the 200mm Rally conversion :wub:

The Traxxas Rally VXL started as an Off Road car and I really hope I get a chance to drive or own one as I predict that Rally cars will explode in popularity again

Morten

[angrymelon]

The Tamiya cars are actually 190mm. Also, the DF03ra is based off an off-road chassis. It also has an available slipper which is a nice plus.

My only beef with the TC3 conversion is the open spur/pinion. Also the TC3 steering rack isn't very well suited against small debris.

I'm also stoked for the VXL Rally. I'm planning on using it for it's intended purpose of mostly smooth surface driving, but I think we may be able to get some good suspension travel out of it yet. If I had to speculate, I'd say it will never be a popular platform at any standard offroad R/C track, but what rally car really is?

I hope you're right about Rally becoming popular. I've been trying to spark interest here locally for what seems like forever now:)

-melon

[SnoopMaxx]

Well .............. US Rally has not bin as public as European Rally or Rally-Cross
That may also have something to do with other American motorsport events run on huge oval tracks and aired live every Sunday :rolleyes:

PS
I know they were only 190mm, my TA02W had a 200mm body and 2 piece OZ wheels standard they were 0 offset but flip the wheel around and it had +6mm width (+12mm total)

Oh and the TC3 can be modded with the TC4 steering to get rid of the weird steering rack

Morten

[revorich609]

Rally is starting to take off in the US. I attended the rallycross event in Millville NJ which is a three race series. Pastrana, Mirra, Foust, Millen and also some drivers from Europe made the trip here to race. It was a great event, with more drivers each time. Ken Block may also attend the November round.

[Emaxx2.0]

But it's still no 1/10 Tc. Even if you do extend the chassis and put a 540 motor(aftermarket) it will not hang with a Tc. Even if you are faster you'll get passed in the corners. If you want to race against Tc that's fine but you better be the best driver. TC racers are very hardcore. This is a perfect little basher but to race against Tc get a Tc. Now, STOP COMPARING THIS CAR TO A TC. It's not a TC nor design to be driven like one. It's design to simulate the gymkhana style rally. This should be in it's own class.

[Stockslasher]

The Rally VXL is definetly not a Touring Car. I see this as a perfect solution between Off-road and on-road which is what Rally is about. I have had issues with the Revo design all along but the stiffer the suspension the better on smooth surfaces. Rally has not been big in the USA but there are many enthusiests like myself that watch WRC and like the drivers challenge of it. I think Rally is one of the most difficult racing int he World. Kimi Riakkonen just switched from F1 to WRC and he has had trouble just placing in the top 10.

Anyway this model is simply a Mini Slash VXL with new bumper, body mounts, body and shock tuning. From a marketing point of view it is simple for Traxxas to create this and increase sales of the base design of the Mini Slash. There seemed to be more MERV out there anyway.

I would call this Rally car a 12th scale.

[Emaxx2.0]

The Rally VXL is definetly not a Touring Car. I see this as a perfect solution between Off-road and on-road which is what Rally is about. I have had issues with the Revo design all along but the stiffer the suspension the better on smooth surfaces. Rally has not been big in the USA but there are many enthusiests like myself that watch WRC and like the drivers challenge of it. I think Rally is one of the most difficult racing int he World. Kimi Riakkonen just switched from F1 to WRC and he has had trouble just placing in the top 10.

Anyway this model is simply a Mini Slash VXL with new bumper, body mounts, body and shock tuning. From a marketing point of view it is simple for Traxxas to create this and increase sales of the base design of the Mini Slash. There seemed to be more MERV out there anyway.

I would call this Rally car a 12th scale.
I still wouldn't call it 1/12th. Most 1/12t use 540 motors. This uses a 380. This is a mini.

[slowenuff]

Im for 1/12th scale even though its wheelbase is only 50mm shorter than the electric 4tec.

[SnoopMaxx]

Some mini's do have 380 size motors
The Grasshopper came stock with a 380 motor

I don't think that motor size can determine whether or not it's a mini, 16th or 12th

Traxxas made this little loving demon and named it Rally VXL
However... they say it's 16th and it eats tarmac for dinner
All we know is ....... It's HERE :lol:

Morten