What Is "Scale"?

[Jay 313]

I used to build a lot of models of various scale as a kid, and assuming that the scale size is truly accurate, that would mean that I could stack a 1/16th scale model car 16-high, or line 16 of them up end to end, and it would equal it's 1:1 counterpart.

I understand scale, but not when it comes to R/C.

I have a Rustler. It is 1/10th scale.....but compared to what, exactly? What factors determine what scale a truck is?

What adds to my confusion is that I thought I read here that the Revo is considered to be a 1/10th scale truck? Is this correct? If so, there's obviously a massive size difference between the Revo/Rustler. Also, I thought the Summit was considered 1/8th scale....even though in this context it's essentially the exact same truck as the Revo but with larger tires.

My point is that even if you're only going by the R/C interpretation of scale, the sizes vary so much that simply referring to what scale a given truck is isn't really going to give any indication of what size it actually is. If an R/C's "scale" doesn't give you a ballpark reference as to what physical size it actually is, then what's the point of "scale" in the first place?

If anyone can make sense of this and/or put it in layman's terms, I'd love to hear it.

[orion]

You read my mind.

I more or less ignore these scale notations on any of the RC trucks and just look at the overall dimensions. It's really confusing how Traxxas calls the E-Maxx 1/10th scale but virtually everyone else refers to it as 1/8th scale. The fact that it dwarfs the Rustler in size and weight only adds to the confusion.



The best guess I can think of for scale is that it depends on what it would take to realistically fit a average sized human into the driver seat if it was built 1:1.

[Brandonj]

yawnnn..... your rustler is 10x smaller then a fullsize rustler that you could drive. the revo is a monster truck compared to a staduim truck like the rustler thus the revo would be bigger. the length,width, height and such are what determine the scale.

[CraigV]

Here's one for you...

If my Slash in its stock configuration can be clocked at 30MPH via my GPS, what is its scale MPH?

[ebailey95]

Here's one for you...

If my Slash in its stock configuration can be clocked at 30MPH via my GPS, what is its scale MPH?
300 mph...?

[orion]

Brandonj it does make sense that the E-Maxx and E-Revo should be bigger than a Rustler due to the fact they're monster trucks. That doesn't explain why Traxxas would call the E-Maxx and E-Revo 1/10th scale but everyone else calls them 1/8th scale.

The Summit is also the same size as an E-Revo and E-Maxx, just jacked up suspension and bigger tires. So do my 7" MOAB tires on my E-Maxx make it 1/8th scale? :confused:



Related thought though, a 1:1 scale E-Maxx would be so awesome.

CraigV: If performance scaled up linearly like dimensions do, that would truly be a sight to behold.

[Jay 313]

a 1:1 scale E-Maxx would be so awesome.

It is awesome!

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/w-KvbZsK8T4/0.jpg

http://www.t-maxx.com/tmaxxmt/news/images/joliet-IL-061007/tmaxx1.jpg

http://monsterblog.lzsportsource.com/images/news/2008/011808/tmaxx.jpg

[CraigV]

300 mph...?
You would think so, right...but that can't be correct - can it? :confused:

[ebailey95]

You would think so, right...but that can't be correct - can it? :confused:
that would be one BIG motor and battery!

[CraigV]

It is awesome!


http://monsterblog.lzsportsource.com/images/news/2008/011808/tmaxx.jpg



...and he's only running 740 - 3S Lipo's in series! :eek: :cool:

[jwaj2002]

you mean it was awesome they don't have the 1:1 t-maxx

[Jay 313]

you mean it was awesome they don't have the 1:1 t-maxx
True, not anymore, but awesome nonetheless.

[orion]

Witchcraft! Heresy!

That's clearly a 1:1 scale Wheely King with a T-Maxx body on it!

[Dadx2mj]

I have a Rustler. It is 1/10th scale.....but compared to what, exactly?

Compared to a Stadium truck.


What adds to my confusion is that I thought I read here that the Revo is considered to be a 1/10th scale truck? Is this correct? If so, there's obviously a massive size difference between the Revo/Rustler.

Revo is a 1:10th scale Monster truck the Rusty is 1:10th scale Stadium truck. Have you ever compared a 1:1 Monster truck to a 1:1 Stadium truck?

[jshultz78]

Somebody needs to build a 1:1 scale rusty. 14.5ft long, weigh 37 lbs and capable of going 700mph. LOL.

[02hawk]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay 313
It is awesome!
http://monsterblog.lzsportsource.com/images/news/2008/011808/tmaxx.jpg





...and he's only running 740 - 3S Lipo's in series!
Today 06:26 PM

Nope he's running 100% NITRO!! :fear:

[CraigV]

Nope he's running 100% NITRO!! :fear:


Pfft, I don't see a trail of white smoke in any of those shots :p :D

[nunster]

Nope he's running 100% NITRO!! :fear:

:lol: Nope again. He's running on some good'ol moonshine or 0%nitro and 100% methanol :p :D

Be scarry if it was a 4,000 plus horsepower engine in that beast. :wacko: I would be asking for a top row seat. Either it would go boom or wouldn't be able to slow it down quick enough before it was half way up the stadium. :lol:

[nunster]

But what would be interesting a truck with those size tires but independent suspension. Would not be cheap. But think about it when those big trucks runs over something not dead on the truck goes sideways because it puts a lot of camber on the other wheel. The truck would have to be wider though. Which would make it harder to transport. Or would it? But anyhow that would be one bad *** truck. But darn it, even if I sold my place I still wouldn't have enough money to build one of those trucks. :mad: Oh well :rolleyes: :D

[CraigV]

But what would be interesting a truck with those size tires but independent suspension. Would not be cheap. But think about it when those big trucks runs over something not dead on the truck goes sideways because it puts a lot of camber on the other wheel. The truck would have to be wider though. Which would make it harder to transport. Or would it? But anyhow that would be one bad *** truck. But darn it, even if I sold my place I still wouldn't have enough money to build one of those trucks. :mad: Oh well :rolleyes: :D
Which brings us around to the top of the thread - if you can't afford the real thing, build it to scale ;) :D

[bjoehandley]

:lol: Nope again. He's running on some good'ol moonshine or 0%nitro and 100% methanol :p :D


Well....technically, if it's Methanol, it wouldn't be moonshine since wood alcohol is poisonous and would kill anybody who ingested it. Now if they were running Ethanol which can be made from corn, sugar cane or beats, that would be injestable. Now I'm not too sure if the Switchgrass (or slewgrass as Dad calls it) based Ethanol is safe to drink though.

[slowenuff]

Well if the revo/maxx line is 1/10th scale that means the slash/slayer is 1/8th scale.

[Double G]

Good thing RCs aren't the scale cost of a full-sized. No way could I afford $20,000 Nitro Revo (assuming a monster truck is $200k).

[nunster]

Well....technically, if it's Methanol, it wouldn't be moonshine since wood alcohol is poisonous and would kill anybody who ingested it. Now if they were running Ethanol which can be made from corn, sugar cane or beats, that would be injestable. Now I'm not too sure if the Switchgrass (or slewgrass as Dad calls it) based Ethanol is safe to drink though.
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Okay Ethanol. It will run on either. My uncle and his friend back in the late 50's went down to Mexico for a while. Well they decided to spend their last money on cheap or cheap in mexico tequila. Well they took the long way home to by pass a border patrol. Well I guess they drank to much of it hahaha lol they ran out of gas in the middle of the desert with a case of some fine good tequila in the trunk. lol. Well the old flat head v8 ran on just good enough to get them to a town with a bank that my gradfather or their dad or more than likely my grandmother wired them the money to get home. I am pretty sure owen their dad probably laughed his head off and probably told them to get a job there and see you home some time in the future. So somwhere there probably on a dirt road somewhere there is a pile of bottles probably even yet. One of my dad's favorite stories.
This talk just reminded me of this tale and I thought some of might find it funny too.

[jwaj2002]

Good thing RCs aren't the scale cost of a full-sized. No way could I afford $20,000 Nitro Revo (assuming a monster truck is $200k).
last I looked the nitro revo was around $700, so it would $70,000, which for a monster truck would be cheap considering they spend hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars building them

[Nitronaught]

If you were to take a 1/10th scale Revo or TMAXX and blow them up 10X their size you will find the scale is off. :cool:

[Jay 313]

If you were to take a 1/10th scale Revo or TMAXX and blow them up 10X their size you will find the scale is off. :cool:
Big time.

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