people are looking at this the wrong way....

[JOCKS_RETURN]

The crawlers dont know if they should claim it as a crawler then you have the bashers i.e. emaxxers who dont even know to claim it as a fellow basher and then you got the racers i.e revo folks, who dont know if they should claim the truck as theirs also claim as in SAME BREED, but forget this truck is so awesome it does ALL OF THE ABOVE!! I think this truck is one of the coolest out there not only can I get it muddy, but I can somewhat race with it or rock crawl with it or bash etc....its all purpose. You guys remember taking tests and you had:
A: -----
B:-----
C:-----
D: ALL OF THE ABOVE

and you guys knew deep down inside it was D: ALL OF THE ABOVE but didnt want to circle the bubble becuase you were bias towards the other 3 choices well the summit is like that its D: ALL OF THE ABOVE.......a great truck (based on the videos)
:wub:

[mudshredder07]

Good point.Im calling it a trail crawlbasher:lol: .Just saying how I see it as.I bet it will be truck of the year,like someone else said earlier.Because its not relly limited to one thing.I know it will handle good,traxxas spent alot of time and testing on it(most likely).I bet they had the idea back when they were making the E-revo.Im wondering how much this thing will weigh:) .You know with all the servos & tloc 775 etc it will be the heaviest 1/10 from traxxas probly.I hope they will make new option parts as well.It had me thinking,they made the rims trick(fake)beadlocks.So they could have actual beadlocks as an option.Its a Possibility.I can't wait to get one,but have to.Im sticking with mid jan for release.I called & asked they said early jan.But as ive seen,they always push it a lil later.Probly to make sure enough gets out.

[got_nitro]

The truck seems more like a ''ROVER'' to me.. I'll just call it a "CROVER":p

[Racer Rob]

All I know is that I WANT ONE! AX-10 for sale...

[DiFabio42]

There OK. I'm not a big fan of it.

[mbeatle]

The Revo already does all the above which is what frustrates me so much. Bigger tires and lockable diffs do not a crawler make. You can drive a Revo slowly too...

[revo96]

TRX should have made the summit with SOLID AXLES!!! CRAWLERS HAVE SOLID AXLES!!! Im amazed TRAXXAS OVERLOOKED THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! If crawlers had independant suspension, then anyone could put big tires on their e-maxx and e-revo and call it a crawler! A long time ago.

[Greywerld]

People have been modding maxxes and revos for as long as they've been out (check slaydaddy's pitpass, Revo Rocks Project I & II). Summit is geared towards a little bit of everything, like Jocks Return said.
I've never seen so many people flaming over a new truck, I like it personally.
Probably even try to put a few of the parts onto my 3.3 revo.

[Koko]

The Revo already does all the above which is what frustrates me so much. Bigger tires and lockable diffs do not a crawler make. You can drive a Revo slowly too...

Open diffs will never go where, locked ones can go. It's the same concept as a 1:1 vehicle. Setting up an E-revo with long travels will have similar suspension action. But the similarity ends there. Different motor = different torque characteristics, lockable diffs and a high low tranny make certain its a go anywhere all around fun truck. I'm sure the two speed tranny is geared different then a the Erevo 2 speed option. Tires and gears make a huge difference. Take a stock Jeep Wrangler and Jeep Wrangler Rubicon - different animals.

[Garbage_Man]

TRX should have made the summit with SOLID AXLES!!! CRAWLERS HAVE SOLID AXLES!!! Im amazed TRAXXAS OVERLOOKED THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! If crawlers had independant suspension, then anyone could put big tires on their e-maxx and e-revo and call it a crawler! A long time ago.

I'll take the active locking diffs any day.

[Rick_Diculous]

Oh jeeez. The man made a friendly thread to call out the fact that its in a category of its own and shouldn't be labeled under any specific one.... its a "man-bear-pig"

[BigDaddyMaxx]

TRX should have made the summit with SOLID AXLES!!! CRAWLERS HAVE SOLID AXLES!!! Im amazed TRAXXAS OVERLOOKED THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! If crawlers had independant suspension, then anyone could put big tires on their e-maxx and e-revo and call it a crawler! A long time ago.

Again, you are missing the point of this thread. Traxxas is not calling it a "CRAWLER" so stop calling it so. It is a versatile truck. You can climb with it and you can cruise around your backyard at higher speeds with just a flip of the switch. It is an all out basher, made for bashers.:cool:

[BMWNLA]

Oh jeeez. The man made a friendly thread to call out the fact that its in a category of its own and shouldn't be labeled under any specific one.... its a "man-bear-pig"

Its half man half bear half big..........im super cereal

[ho-ju]

All I'm calling it is "Mine". Then I can see what it will do next to my e-maxx.

[Rick_Diculous]

Its half man half bear half big..........im super cereal
Hahahahah I'm pretty cereal as well:lol:

[trucktrial]

I do not care that all the crawlers used rigid axles.
I like cars with independent suspension.
Remember the ads for Nissan Pathfinder independent suspension...

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=o8aCv7K_2Ug

[JOCKS_RETURN]

The Revo already does all the above which is what frustrates me so much. Bigger tires and lockable diffs do not a crawler make. You can drive a Revo slowly too...
I guess thats where you missed the point at my original post :rolleyes: your trying to claim it for a certain breed and its NOT.

[JOCKS_RETURN]

Again, you are missing the point of this thread. Traxxas is not calling it a "CRAWLER" so stop calling it so. It is a versatile truck. You can climb with it and you can cruise around your backyard at higher speeds with just a flip of the switch. It is an all out basher, made for bashers.:cool:
EXACTLY......you got the point vs others so many folks come in and try claim it as their own BREED i.e. rock crawler, basher, racer, etc.., but its not.

[bosco72]

Thanks bigdaddy...Im reading all the posts and im amazed how guys think this is a crawler And saying traxxas did such a crap job.I think traxxas did a great job.So guys IT'S NOT A CRAWLER !!!!
Again, you are missing the point of this thread. Traxxas is not calling it a "CRAWLER" so stop calling it so. It is a versatile truck. You can climb with it and you can cruise around your backyard at higher speeds with just a flip of the switch. It is an all out basher, made for bashers.:cool:

[bjoehandley]

It's a decent truck, it won't do all of the same things an Axial or Wheely King will do because of chassis width, but it looks pretty well set up for most stuff. Will it be a comp rig...no, will it be some form of scaler.....ummmmnnno there too, can it be an all terrain basher that can have some of the more innovative features that can be borrowed for other vehicles....up!

[MooseDrool]

I think of it as an SUV. My toyota sequoia can be driven around town, gets reasonably good milage, and is pretty plush, but it can also be taken offroad, through dirt, mud, rocks, creeks, and more. The summit is kind of the same thing.

[bentz2151]

its an etv an extra terrain vehicle!

[josilver]

call it a brawler (bashing crawler)

[Nitro Chicken]

Jock, you are absolutely correct. The real truth that people are missing when they apply this half baked crackpot logic (I am being generous here) is that they should be bashing all the other types of trucks for their design failures and weaknesses, which do not allow them to do all the things the Summit can do, and prevent them from being competitive with it. :rolleyes:

[davidrx794]

TRX should have made the summit with SOLID AXLES!!! CRAWLERS HAVE SOLID AXLES!!! Im amazed TRAXXAS OVERLOOKED THIS ONE!!!!!!!!! If crawlers had independant suspension, then anyone could put big tires on their e-maxx and e-revo and call it a crawler! A long time ago.



If every body say it with me ITS NOT A CRAWLER! the sooner you people get that though your head the better you will be:rolleyes:

[davidrx794]

Jock, you are absolutely correct. The real truth that people are missing when they apply this half baked crackpot logic (I am being generous here) is that they should be bashing all the other types of trucks for their design failures and weaknesses, which do not allow them to do all the things the Summit can do, and prevent them from being competitive with it. :rolleyes:
YES:lol: i agree people get stuck on the wrong things the Summit is going to be one of the biggest if not the biggest thing out this year and next year to come

[Greatscott]

I think what you could call this, at least in the rock crawling croud is "Disappointment". I really like Traxxas' vehicles and love their tech support (2nd to none!), but I and a lot of there people who have gone over to rock clawling were REALLY hoping the Summit would be the Traxxas crawler we have been wanting and waiting for, that is one reason so many have been trying to meld it into something else. I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my long-in-the-tooth E-Maxx, but the $500+ price tag has me a little gun-shy.
JMHO... :confused:

[Nitro Chicken]

Its also a disappointment to the sedan guys who were really hoping it would be a street car.

[lostNdallas]

Its also a disappointment to the sedan guys who were really hoping it would be a street car.

I think this pretty much sums up all the negativity directed towards the Summit.

[JPB-rides]

Its also a disappointment to the sedan guys who were really hoping it would be a street car.

The difference being that EVERY Traxxas vehicle can/is run on the street and NO Taxxas vehilcles are good on the rocks. The reason the crawler guys are dissapointed is the Traxxas makes great products and this is clearly NOT a crawler.

Its a cooltruck and I'm a sucker and I will probably end up with one anyway but I hope Traxxas comes out with a "REAL" straight axle comp crawler that can be dialed in for true competition performance.

At the rate Traxxas has been dropping new products a "real crawler" could be released by Friday:lol: :lol: :lol:.

[bjoehandley]

Its also a disappointment to the sedan guys who were really hoping it would be a street car.

Well, that would have been nice to see:rolleyes:

[Greatscott]

Friday, Eh???? I'm holding you to that JPB!!!!

[N80]

I personally think this is going to be the most fun truck to PLAY WITH that Traxxas has ever made. Let's get out of the way the things it won't do:

1)Speed records
2)Serious dirt track racing
3)serious competitive rock crawling

That's about it. The list of things that it can do is endless and very different from the other Revo trucks. An E-Revo with long travels and big tires will not climb the way the Summit will with its 75:1 and locking diffs. No dedicated rock crawler will ever be half as much fun as a basher. No nitro powered truck can be (reasonably) run in your den! I think the Summit could be a blast indoors.

So like N-C said, the list of things that it can do that no one else can is much longer than the list of things it won't be good for.

I'm still in total waffling mode about getting back into RC. The E-Revo Brushless really appeals to the side of me that might want to race again. But racing is expensive and time consuming and requires special facilities. I'm not into high speed bashing or doing wheelies in a parking lot. The Summit just seems like the right truck for lots of fun, anytime, anywhere.

[Rick_Diculous]

but the $500+ price tag has me a little gun-shy.
JMHO... :confused:
My concience tell me "no" but I think my 500 bones is as good as gone:lol: once this hits the street

[OCD RC]

No nitro powered truck can be (reasonably) run in your den! I think the Summit could be a blast indoors.

I almost forgot about electric and indoors. Yes I have tried to run a nitro indoors. 15 seconds was enough for me.

[slowenuff]

Hey Chicken since you brought up the no sedan thing, could ya tell the parts people to keep the tec parts rolling tillya do make another?

[Redman65]

I think this is going to be a great truck for bashers who want to take a truck hiking. I can't wait we have a small state park close by.

As for Traxxas making a 'true' rock crawler. I bet they do it's to popular for them not to. I also bet they come out with a 4x4 Slash as well (maybe VXL).

[SWEETZ28]

I bet what traxxas will do with this truck is use the slayer short aarms on it and put some scale looking 2.2 tires on it and make it look more scale for a scale rig... If they do this it would look more scale and realistic...I for sure would buy the parts to convert mine when i get it...because i think this is what traxxas should have made the summit like in the first place.

[Greatscott]

I agree Chicken, I just bought an abused electric 4-Tec that I need to rebuild, it would be cool to see an updated brushless 4-Tec come out...

Back to the Summit...
It uses the EVX2 with one motor (770), I am guessing (please correct me if I am wrong), but it should have a bit more run time (compared to the E-Maxx and E-Revo).
Also, back to crawling, the TQ3 is pretty popular for budget minded crawlers, I have a feeling that the TQ4 will be even more so. I still wish Traxxas would come out with a 2.4 ghz radio (...and no, it wouldn't raise the costs all that much, other RC makers are producing RTRs w/ 2.4 Ghz and they are only about $20 more, which is a small price to pay to not have to deal will crystals and glitching.)

:eek: Wholly cow!!! I just found out that traxxas DOES have a 2.4 ghz radio out, it comes with the new E-Revo BL. I really would have expected something like that to be put on the Traxxas home page. :eek:

JMHO... :o

[Zoomad]

Jocks and a few others get it. It's not a deicated crawler. It's a jack of all trades rc truck. Not everybody gets into the comp crawling scene. It don't matter if it's RC or full size, sometimes going slow crawling boulders the size of the truck gets boring. My full size K5 Blazer is a "trail truck" not a crawler. I might hit a stretch of rocks on the trail to get to a lake or just on a trail ride, but you won't see me in Farmington, NM or Las Cruces NM for big Rock Crawling comps to watch or compete in. Same goes for RC crawling. I'm just not into it.

I did get one of those wally world Nylint Jeeps for my son a couple of years ago and thought it was cool enough (at the time) to get one for myself. I liked the fact you could drive in hi or low range. It crawled decent on our landscaping that consists of football sized river rocks. But even in high gear on pavement or inside it just wasn't fast enough for my inner speed freak. Plus the turning radius was horrible. I can say it did re-ignite my love for RC and is what drove me to getting Rustlers for my son and I.

The Summit is a neat idea that I think fills a gap that is out there. Sure you got e-maxx's and e-revo's now, but with the lockers and wide ratio change between high and low gears the Summit will do better at the low speed, more technical stuff. The only problem I have is cost. That technology comes with a hefty price tag.

[wolf@ma]

I think what you could call this, at least in the rock crawling croud is "Disappointment". I really like Traxxas' vehicles and love their tech support (2nd to none!), but I and a lot of there people who have gone over to rock clawling were REALLY hoping the Summit would be the Traxxas crawler we have been wanting and waiting for, that is one reason so many have been trying to meld it into something else. I was thinking about getting one of these to replace my long-in-the-tooth E-Maxx, but the $500+ price tag has me a little gun-shy.
JMHO... :confused:
Just because they were hoping for one doesn't make it right to label this a crawler and then call it crap.I believe traxxas decides what they will call it and they did not call it a rock crawler.

[Garbage_Man]

I really like the truck. I may even part with one of my others in order to buy fund some of it.

[Greatscott]

Please point out to me where I called it 'crap'? I didn't call it crap wolf, its just that some of us were hoping for something a little different and that is why a lot of peeps are trying to make it something it is not.
Rock racing in getting more popular, something I think the Summit was custom made for.

[arceeguy]

I dunno - those locking diffs and fantastic articulation make it a crawler in my book! Solid axles would have kept it more "realistic" looking, but I think actual performance may have suffered. (JMO, of course)

[icepick832]

I just cant wait to see one in real world action. I think it is going to be the ultimate trail basher. As was said once already, the jack of all trades (I know I know, master of none, cept for having fun).

[JPB-rides]

I dunno - those locking diffs and fantastic articulation make it a crawler in my book! Solid axles would have kept it more "realistic" looking, but I think actual performance may have suffered. (JMO, of course)


So wrong!!!! You must not have a real crawler:o . The Summit is not a crawler. Independant suspension is not optimal for crawling.

That being said the Summit is one cool innovative "Monster Truck" that wiil be awsome on dirt, trails, mud, snow, hill climbs but very limited on the rocks compared to a comp ready crawler without "major" and I mean "MAJOR" modifications.

[Wookie]

Well, I am looking at it this a way...........

I was going to look into crawling also eventually. Been wanting to also go to a Monster Truck.

The Summit will fill both needs for me as I see it.

It will give me a variety of things to play with, and the get to know and understand a bit about the crawling aspect of things as a beginner.

I like the combo of it all. I may never want to go full bore into the crawling thing, as the Summit could give me both a bit of crawling and a bit of speed at the same time.

A great way to get both Monster Truck and Crawling at the same time and just enjoy the entire package as it is.

I plan to enjoy the ride.

[VXL Beast]

Thats crazy becuase thats almost exactly my situation wookie!

[Gdot]

The Summit will fill both needs for me as I see it.

It will give me a variety of things to play with, and the get to know and understand a bit about the crawling aspect of things as a beginner.

I like the combo of it all. I may never want to go full bore into the crawling thing, as the Summit could give me both a bit of crawling and a bit of speed at the same time.

A great way to get both Monster Truck and Crawling at the same time and just enjoy the entire package as it is.



This is the guy that traxxas was thinking of when they designed this thing. Mr.Wookie, you get the medal. Here's a guy who knows what he wants, finds the truck and then says : I plan to enjoy the ride : . Good on you.

[Wookie]

Thats crazy becuase thats almost exactly my situation wookie!

LOL

That's a good thing don't ya know.

Enjoy, and keep it fun.

[Wookie]

This is the guy that traxxas was thinking of when they designed this thing. Mr.Wookie, you get the medal. Here's a guy who knows what he wants, finds the truck and then says : I plan to enjoy the ride : . Good on you.

Thanks for the nice input.

Traxxas has me Lock, Stock, and Barrel. LOL

This hobby is addicting to say the least.

Enjoy, and keep it fun.

[bosco72]

all the guys saying this truck is a crapy rockcrawler.Then just buy a rock crawler.Venom just came out with one with locking diffs just like traxxas.

[Greatscott]

all the guys saying this truck is a crapy rockcrawler.Then just buy a rock crawler.Venom just came out with one with locking diffs just like traxxas.

That is what a lot of us did, but we want a Traxxas crawler.

1. We like Traxxas and would prefer to buy their trucks
2. Part support is hit or miss in hobby shops for most RC brands, but I have yet to go to a hobby store and not see a wall full of Traxxas parts
3. Tech support
4. BECAUSE WE WANT IT!!!!

[JPB-rides]

That is what a lot of us did, but we want a Traxxas crawler.

1. We like Traxxas and would prefer to buy their trucks
2. Part support is hit or miss in hobby shops for most RC brands, but I have yet to go to a hobby store and not see a wall full of Traxxas parts
3. Tech support
4. BECAUSE WE WANT IT!!!!


I agree 100% with the above. I also think that the Summit will be a very fun "monster truck".

[JPB-rides]

That is what a lot of us did, but we want a Traxxas crawler.

1. We like Traxxas and would prefer to buy their trucks
2. Part support is hit or miss in hobby shops for most RC brands, but I have yet to go to a hobby store and not see a wall full of Traxxas parts
3. Tech support
4. BECAUSE WE WANT IT!!!!


I agree 100% with the above. I also think that the Summit will be a very fun "monster truck".

[revo96]

SO TRAXXAS SHOULD MAKE A CRAWLER - WITH SOLID AXLES. PERIOD. I love the previous quote though - its a "MAN,BEAR,PIG"

[floydiandays]

The Revo already does all the above which is what frustrates me so much. Bigger tires and lockable diffs do not a crawler make. You can drive a Revo slowly too...

There's a difference between pulling the trigger to go slow, (which I did all the time with my revo 3.3 for some rock crawling) and actually having a truck geared for that kinda of thing. Ever try driving a revo over a huge rock? It doesn't work, it's not made for it. No matter how slow you go. The Summit might still need some tweaking for extreme vertical rock climbing, but it's still a nice idea. I mean come on! 4 channels? Locking diff? SAWEEET!!!

I think if you're a diehard Revo fan and never really cared for rock crawling then of course the summit is not for you. Just because it doesn't go fast doesn't make it a bad truck.

Traxxas is finally branching out to meet everyone's "slice of bread".

Kudos!

[traxxas basher]

Summit is a do it all truck..You dont need to say that Revo and E-Maxx people dont understand that..I dont see how this thread has a point your just saying stuff most people know and are aware of..
+1 on what Zoomad said...

[floydiandays]

People keep talking about what a drag it is that it "only" does 20. All I'm saying is that's not what it's for. If people were aware of it, they wouldn't keep complaining it.

[traxxax531]

what are half of you talking about??

traxxas is trying to get into the cralwer game..so yea its a crawler imo.or trying to be one..

..you say its a "Basher"...but how is someone gonna spend over 400.00 for a car that doesnt even have a decent run speed to bash...you would get a emaxx for that...so that right there would not make sense on my end...

everyone wants somthing fast and thats REAL TALK..so yea you may say it not a cralwer but that what i looks like with the run speed and the lockin of the diff..

and to say you would sell you axail for this is crazy imo..ax10 way cheaper, looks better and i proabbly same speed.

[Greatscott]

Dunno if I agree with 532, it all comes down to what kind of driving you want to do, that is why I have an E-Maxx, E-Pede, E-Rusty, E-4-Tec, and an AX-10. As far as the AX10 being as fast as a Summit, maybe the Summit in low gear. With a 65T motor, my AX10 trucks along at a blistering 7MPH...

[icepick832]

I really wish a traxxas employee would just say what it is....lol
I still stand with it being a basher. 20 MPH is a respectable speed, not for racing though, unless its rock racing. 20 MPH may not be fast in a real car, but pedal your bike at 20 MPH, and its enough to hurt you in a fall. It isnt a crawler in the sense that it doesnt have a solid axle. The AX-10, in just about every form is about 7 MPH, with some people (seen them on youtube) that push them up to 15 to 20 MPH. As far as everyone wanting to go fast, if that was the case then crawlers wouldnt be around. Not to mention how big the Slash has become at local tracks, in spec racing. It isnt much faster than the summit will be, but people love it. Some people will never be happy though. Give them what they want, and they will just want something else, or say it isnt good enough. If it isnt for you, then just move on, or build it to how you want it. I for one know I will be getting it, and I will love it. Its definitely going to fill the void that I have between my revo and AX-10.

[traxxax531]

i have talked to 3 diffrent hobby shops i hang around in nyc for their opinion and they all say the same thing

why is taxxas gonna market another 4wheel drive car when they already have 2?...diffrent models.. emaxx and with the revo suspention

so why make a slower car?...ummmm cralwer....

most people when they come into a store want a decent running car/truck and want speed..ask that to anyone..that is wht they want speed..not a SLOW truck...

only a few people are into crawlers and most people in the general wont buy one bcos its slow

so traxxas makes this for the people out there into cralwers but want more crawling speed and look...but the price as i said for a basher is way off IMO...bcos you cant pay that much for a basher when you could buy a better basher for less money..so yea a cralwer.

[icepick832]

EDIT: NVM, I decided to be nice and just drop it.

[traxxax531]

what fact sheets? i speak the truth..you wont see any shops in nyc carry this truck just bcos of the price and the speed it lacks..comon a 500.00 basher ...you could buy the e-revo for lower price...

yea this trucks has a diffrent setup to make it go faster but still...even the motor on the summit is used for cralwerin ..and the people at rc.net even say its a cralwer commin out of traxxas mouth ..but you can have decent speed..but i still consider them tryin the cralwer scene out..

[traxxax531]

comon even the pre video for the summit its cralwin over everything :rolleyes: ...

if i take my e-revo over any of that stuff it will climb it..some say it wont even you take it slow but whatever...

when i tell people how much my cralwer cost they laugh bcos its slow and what its used for...how many people out there are gonna be like hey lets get a truck that can climb this rock slower and pay high $$$?

..traxxas is in the business for money, they no what they are doing..no gonna make 2 of the same trucks ethier...

[SnoopMaxx]

The Summit as I see it is a "do it all"
ATrawler :lol:
When my kids and I go playing, we have an old 2 speed E-Maxx and my rock racer
They both have full time lock´d diff´s and the cost of replacing drive shafts on the E-Maxx would justify buying the Summit :wub: :wub: :wub:

Lock diff in loose sand, dirt and snow
unlock diff on tarmac
and training mode in low gear when my daughter drives it
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z198/SnoopMaxx/HiDaddy.jpg

[davidrx794]

man bear pig is a off road extrem truck not a basher not a rock crawler it does it all bash craws and jumps thats why its been given the name man bear pig

[rocky8333]

man bear pig is a off road extrem truck not a basher not a rock crawler it does it all bash craws and jumps thats why its been given the name man bear pig

So, can we all just stop calling this Truck the Summit, and call it ManBearPig? I'm down for that.

[FireWire79]

Man, so much hatred over a truck that isn't even out yet. For one, a Traxxas employee was quoted as saying that will go about 25, which is fast enough, for most people.

Number two, I had a crawler, comp spec'd and everything, super great at one thing, going very very slow and climbing up rocks that were about the right size. Too big, no go, gap to big, no go, angle not right, no go. It was a hit or miss kind of thing.

Number three, I had an E-Revo, comp spec'd again Super great at doing one thing, going fast, over just about any kind of terrain that I could find, to an extent. Rock to big, no go, rut to deep, no go, mud, water, snow, slush, definitely a no go.

So my point is this. I had two freaking awesome trucks. Both good at doing very specific things. I look at the Summit like this, it will be good enough at both things for me. When it gets dirty, I'm taking to the hose and rising it off. No more brushless, no more lipos, no more fancy dancy anything. I have spent way to much in this hobby to have like 5 trucks that are good at doing limited things. I am coping, happily in fact. So its not fast, big deal. So its not a crawler, big deal. It can do some of both well enough for me, as well as well enough for most people.

You all need to stop getting so heated over what I call "Soon to be the most popular truck on the market." Do I even dare to call it the next "Truck of the Year", maybe???? Take it or leave it, if you want to be a hater, get something else.

[davidrx794]

Man, so much hatred over a truck that isn't even out yet. For one, a Traxxas employee was quoted as saying that will go about 25, which is fast enough, for most people.

Number two, I had a crawler, comp spec'd and everything, super great at one thing, going very very slow and climbing up rocks that were about the right size. Too big, no go, gap to big, no go, angle not right, no go. It was a hit or miss kind of thing.

Number three, I had an E-Revo, comp spec'd again Super great at doing one thing, going fast, over just about any kind of terrain that I could find, to an extent. Rock to big, no go, rut to deep, no go, mud, water, snow, slush, definitely a no go.

So my point is this. I had two freaking awesome trucks. Both good at doing very specific things. I look at the Summit like this, it will be good enough at both things for me. When it gets dirty, I'm taking to the hose and rising it off. No more brushless, no more lipos, no more fancy dancy anything. I have spent way to much in this hobby to have like 5 trucks that are good at doing limited things. I am coping, happily in fact. So its not fast, big deal. So its not a crawler, big deal. It can do some of both well enough for me, as well as well enough for most people.

You all need to stop getting so heated over what I call "Soon to be the most popular truck on the market." Do I even dare to call it the next "Truck of the Year", maybe???? Take it or leave it, if you want to be a hater, get something else.
You could call it the next tuck of the year but me and some others are calling it man bear pig :lol: :lol: gosh thats fuuny

[Greatscott]

Speed... Remember, this is a big heavy truck, that is powered by one brushed motor. It is likely made to deliver low-end torque vs high end speed.

Three things that I see asked about RC vehicles are:
1.How fast does it go?
2.How can I make it faster?
3.What can I hop-up?

A lot of times you can make a RC faster, but then it is really uncontrollable unless you are just running it up and down the street. Just run it, then decide if you want it faster or hopped up. A lot of hobby shops have RC's (Mainly Traxxas) that you can test drive, if not, borrow one.