Slash - equal offset wheels all around?

[Slyp Dawg]

doesn't it sort of look like the slash has equal offset rims at all 4 corners? could this be because of the presumably shorter rear arms (I've heard that it uses the nitro rear arms), or if it does have equal offset rims at all 4 corners, are the arms a new molding? I wonder...

[SWEETZ28]

:rolleyes: I don't think so they most likely are different offset on the wheels like all there other cars...don't know why ....must be they are so old of cars that came out so long ago they just keep reusing the old stuff and never make new parts..

[xomby]

nothing wrong with the old parts. "If it's not broke, don't fix it!" Besides that. look at what happens when they do change enough things, the vintage (old) parts get harder to get.

[kavvika]

Not sure what sweet is trying to say, but using nitro rear arms with electric fronts will give you a nearly equal width front and back, allowing the use of equal offset wheels. So my bet is, yes, both the front and rear wheels are identical.

[pede_kid]

I might be seeing things but it looks like the front has slightly more offset. http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/gallery/5805-side.jpg

[69Malibu]

hard to tell from the side like that.

[SWEETZ28]

Yes nitro rears Arms and electric up front does make it almost even that's what i did to my bandit...But I can tell they did not do this on the slash because you would get 3 Deg toe in on the rear and you can clearly see that the slash don't have it so I am pretty sure the wheels are offset.

[Shalpass]

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[SWEETZ28]

See no 3 degree rear toe in so that means no nitro rear a arms so that means the wheels must be offset.:D



http://imgcash5.imageshack.us/Himg411/scaled.php?server=411&filename=5805overheadchassisfskz8.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=480

[Wakesurfer]

See no 3 degree rear toe in so that means no nitro rear a arms so that means the wheels must be offset.:D
Look close at that picture. No rear toe, and the front track width is narrower than the rear. Use a straight edge and compare the distance from the edge fo the tires to the edge of the frame of the pic. Its skinny on the front.

[harry697]

This raises a question that has slipped my mind.Do the rear nitro arms alone have 3 degrees built in? Or is the 3 degrees a combination of parts that add up to 3?

[69Malibu]

Look close at that picture. No rear toe, and the front track width is narrower than the rear. Use a straight edge and compare the distance from the edge fo the tires to the edge of the frame of the pic. Its skinny on the front.
you are right. with my somewhat trained eye i can see the front is slightly more narrow than the rear.

[eemmaaxxxx]

you are right. with my somewhat trained eye i can see the front is slightly more narrow than the rear.


Yeh, I like that. I don't know how that will affect the handling. Will a wider rear end make it slide easier? More powerslides and stuff. What effect will the narrow front end have? Sharper turning? :wacko:

[1daniel14]

They have most likely designed a new rear arm, since it is quite obvious the wheels have the same offset, i bet the rear arms are similar in length to what the Bandit has...

[SWEETZ28]

I don't think traxxas would make a new A Arm....and as for the track width it's the same front and rear...most likely in the photo the front suspension was a little sagged down and this makes the wheels tilt closer together...
TRAXXAS SPECS:
Length 22.36 inches (568mm)
Front Track 11.65 inches (296mm)
Rear Track 11.65 inches (296mm)
Weight 76.2oz (2.16kg)

[eemmaaxxxx]

I thought the Slash used standard Rustler A-arms. If it does, the only way I can see of evening out the offset is to use the thick grey drive hexes on the rear, and the black on the front. The wheels look the same all round which is great, because once you wear the rear tyres out, you can use the fronts.

[Janezki]

Rear arms are not the same as in Rustler/Stampede, prolly they're a bit shorter.
Wheels are definetely the same offset.
Rustler arms/hubs:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/rustler3708/details/3708_wheel-hubs.jpg
Slash arms/hubs:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/details/wheel-hubs.jpg

[konaman]

the rear arms look fliped... the nitro rustler has the shocks mounted on the back and the slash has them on the front... or is it just my imagination

[konaman]

Im guessing that the rear arms does not have any toe to it b/c the arm mounts (#2798a) to the nitro rustler are +/- 1 degree meaning in stock position it will give the wheels a positive 1 degree of toe-in but if you flip the arm mounts it will yeild a -1 degree of toe-out which should make the arms 0 degree. Traxxas has 0° degree blocks (#6797). i'll pull a pair of rear arms and measure them when i go to work at hobbytown on wednesday to make sure.
so:
front arms look like the bandit arms #2531x
rear arms look like the nitro rustler arms #2555
**sorry i forgot how to edit... i havent posted in about 2 years

[konaman]

some pix
of slash
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/gallery/5805_overhead_chassis.jpg

of front arms #3631 not #2531x from above
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=TRA3631

of rear arms #2555
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=TRA2555

and be the judge yourselves

[xomby]

here's a thought............... maybe now, if they wanted to. the nitro peeps can get nitro rear a-frames with zero deg of toe. If, in fact, these are from a new a-frame mold.

[JDCrow]

It looks like they are using different width Hexs front/rear

1654 Wheel Hubs Hex
3654 Wheel Hubs Hex Tall Offset

[1daniel14]

Traxxas arnt going to do any dodgy flipping and what not using the Nitro arms, nitro arms have their own shock mounting setup, and i do know .. i have a nitro here, konaman has linked us to some nitro arms anyway, you can see the totally different setup.


I don't think traxxas would make a new A Arm...

Why do you think that? no offense but you have no idea what Traxxas has done with it ...

They have just designed a new chassis design, if they have to make new arms they will, and simply changing hexes around wont work, since the rear is quite a fair bit wider than the front (rustler)...

Also you cant bolt in nitro rustler arm mounts to counteract the 1 degree of toe, since the Slash uses a Rustler/Stampede tranny and mounts.

Come on guys, think about it.

[OM514]

guys let's try not to argue because until someone either talks to an employee about it, or gets one for themselves, they won't know for sure and then the whole conversation gets pretty confusing ;)

-as for me, without trying to argue i would say that i think they look most like the rear a-arms for the nitro rustler/stampede. im pretty sure they are (i may be wrong) because when i was doing a bandit-to rustler conversion, i was at my lhs looking for rear a-arms for the electric rustler and while i was searching i picked up the nitro rear arms to see if they were the right ones. i remember the nitro arms looking a lot, if not exactly, like the rear a-arms used on the slash :)

Look here :

These are the rear arms for the nitro rustler
http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/nrustler4409/details/4410nr_driveshafts.jpg
http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/nrustler4409/gallery/4410nr_top_chassis.jpg


These are the rear arms for the slash
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/details/yokes_driveshafts.jpg

In this pic it's the one the right:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/details/wheel-hubs.jpg

It's a little bit harder to see here but if you look closely you can (you may need to enlarge the picture)
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/gallery/5805_overhead_chassis.jpg

hope that at least confirms or somewhat confirms the topic of what a-arms it uses lol :)

[bosco72]

they should have made the tranny 2 parts like the srt had.so you can change the rear toe by changing the rear a arm mounts.they could sold them in a pack.with 1%, 2%, 3% & 4%.they should remake it for the rustler, bandit & stampede.Think about our vxl can go 70 plus so give us that option traxxas.

[1daniel14]

Wow, i stand corrected! thats odd....

[bosco72]

im with you.they look the same.
guys let's try not to argue because until someone either talks to an employee about it, or gets one for themselves, they won't know for sure and then the whole conversation gets pretty confusing ;)

-as for me, without trying to argue i would say that i think they look most like the rear a-arms for the nitro rustler/stampede. im pretty sure they are (i may be wrong) because when i was doing a bandit-to rustler conversion, i was at my lhs looking for rear a-arms for the electric rustler and while i was searching i picked up the nitro rear arms to see if they were the right ones. i remember the nitro arms looking a lot, if not exactly, like the rear a-arms used on the slash :)

Look here :

These are the rear arms for the nitro rustler
http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/nrustler4409/details/4410nr_driveshafts.jpg
http://www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/nrustler4409/gallery/4410nr_top_chassis.jpg


These are the rear arms for the slash
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/details/yokes_driveshafts.jpg

In this pic it's the one the right:
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/details/wheel-hubs.jpg

It's a little bit harder to see here but if you look closely you can (you may need to enlarge the picture)
http://www.traxxas.com/products/electric/5805/gallery/5805_overhead_chassis.jpg

hope that at least confirms or somewhat confirms the topic of what a-arms it uses lol :)

[OM514]

yup, they look exactly the same