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It's almost time for a new truck. Does anybody have the following and can give real info on them. These are my choices narrowed down.
00'-05' Ford F-250 Deisel Power stroke 7.3 or 6.0 L
04'-05' Dodge 6L HO Deisel
I'm looking for good or bad feed back on them, mainly the engines and trans for both. Thanks
11-18-2004, 03:56 PM
my dad just got a '04 power stroke 6 liter. I like the engine and the tranny has a tow function that puts the engine shifting at a higher RPM so it has more power. The function also downshifts to assist in stopping.
If you get a 4X4, i believe that most of the new fords come with the manual locking hubs (which means if you get stuck, you have to get out to put it in 4X4) . My dads is a XLT and it came with manual hubs.
I have a '97 power stroke 7.3 liter with automatic hubs on it. I like the truck, the newer ones have more power also. I have a chip, K&N air filter, knocked out cadalatic (SP?) converters, and a shift kit in the tranny, and his can still out run mine.
I dont know much about the newer dodges, but a company i used to work for had a like '96-98 cummins, and it just seemed weak. it was a standard, and the turbo wouldnt start really producing the good boost until the motor was almost wrapped out.
It all comes down to what you prefer. Test drive them both, then decide.
Thanks for the feedback. The issues you brought up with the Doidge are the reasons I am only loking at the new High Output. I am leaning towards Ford based on the PowerStrokes track record. Thanks again.
11-18-2004, 05:20 PM
ive heard good things about them Dodges. they go 150000 no problem b4 you have to replace somthin.
11-18-2004, 06:08 PM
Why not Chevy?
Go with the Dodge. My uncle has one and loves it.
My service truck was a 2002 F-450. IMHO It was a 13000 pound peace of ...... well you know. The right rear wheel seal always was leaking, and sometimes it would not start, no reason just wouldn't fire.
11-18-2004, 06:30 PM
My son just bought a '04 Ford.F250 crew cab 4x4.Powerstroke.The fuel mileage is terrible.He pulls a trailer for his work and can only muster around 9mpg.Only get about 9.5mpg with out the trailer.Power is ok,but at $2.15 a gallon,i'd stay with the gas engines.Slow
11-18-2004, 06:33 PM
Ya that reminds me, the service truck only got ten miles to the gallon. Thank god I didn't pay for fuel.:confused:
11-18-2004, 07:11 PM
I have an '04 F-250 with a 6.0 in it. I love it. I get 18 mpg. Towing my 4500 lb camper(new one coming in '05)I still get at least 12 mpg. 100,000 warranty on motor. Ford still puts auto hubs on them. My buddy has an '03 xlt with them on it. Woody
11-18-2004, 09:52 PM
my 7.3 liter has 180000 miles on it and only has a new water pump, the tranny is a different story.
the truck doesnt like pulling a 31' fifth wheel camper with a 20' pontoon boat behind that. The clutch packs went out, after we got that rebuilt, the tranny cooler inside the radiator busted and messed up all the gears. :(
other than that little tranny mishap, everything is great, and i get 15 MPG :o its hard on a college student.
i heard ford is putting the manual hubs on cause they last longer.
11-18-2004, 10:28 PM
The Cummins is a legendary diesel engine. It will run forever. In the bigger Ford's (F-650) the same 5.9 turbo that's in the Ram is an option. Our '98 Cummins 2500 Ram has over 300K on the clock and it runs great. Lately the tranny goes in and out of 3rd gear on hills and the lift pump/injection pump is worn out. I'd go with the Ram and the HO Cummins/6 speed manual.
The only weak point on the Cummins is the lift pump but I've run into Powerstroke owners with the same problem (both 7.3 and 6.0 trucks). Our truck needs a rebuilt tranny and a new lift pump but it has had a very rough life hauling 4000lb+ in the bed every night for a good 10 months (delivered lots of news papers) and pulled trees (giant oaks, pines) 8-10 times its weight and size when we were clearing our land. Not once has it left us stranded or refused to start...although with the lift pump on the fritz its become a bit of a pain to start when it gets hot.
Edit: fuel mileage is great...on the 35 gallon tank 550-600 miles before filling up isn't out of the question. 25mpg is the best its gotten and 12mpg with a large trailer and the bed loaded down. The bed cap added a little extra mpg.
Thanks for all the great info. I was just on a Ford forum and some people have been having issues with the new 6L. , Some getting great MPG and others not so good, could be because it's new. A buddy of mine is a big rig engine mechanic and recomends the new Dodge HO 6L. I'll be using it to pull a camper trailer and hunting with so I dont think I will kill it with work. Thanks agin for the info.
Why not Chevy?
I have a 99' Silverado 5.3L now and quite frankly I think for the money I can get an equal or better truck in the Dodge or Ford. Chevy is starting to get in the mid to high 40K for the deisel. I can get the Dodge for close to 30K or just over at Dave Smith Motors in Idaho.
11-19-2004, 09:54 AM
As much as I love ford(im a ford nut) IF you want the truck that will last the longest, the dodge will.IF you want a truck that will last 300+thou mile working hard if treated good get the dodge, the ford gets 2nd place, and the chevy is just a piece of..... poop(what else am i going to say?)
11-19-2004, 09:21 PM
You really cant go wrong with either one. The cummins and the 7.3l powerstroke are both proven engines. The 6.0 has been kinda hit or miss, but the 05's should have better software. Dodge has had automatic transmission troubles in the past, but they seem to be getting better. I pesonally wouldnt get an auto though, manual is alot stronger for towing. I wouldnt trust a chevy duramax with aluminum heads. Those things blow up when you chip them or turn them up in any way. That and they have had injector problems.
11-20-2004, 01:40 AM
My Dad just test drove a Harley Davidson F-250 today and he said it took some time for the turbo to spool up but after that he said it had alot of power under foot.
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